ph4ever wrote:I'm like Larry - gays have the right to be as miserable as anyone else.
And like has been said - aren't there more IMPORTANT things going on in this nation than trying to place restrictions on love. I mean after all isn't that what marriage starts out with?
I agree this is just a political smoke screen to cover up more important issues in society because of the up-coming elections next fall.
All I know is that if gay marriage is ever legalized in Washington - Don's got several people he's gonna marry.
Coconuts wrote:I was watching the History Channel program on the Revolutionary War, and this quote stuck- The Patriots outnumbered the Loyalists 2 to 1, but the majority just wanted to be left alone. And it seems it's been that way ever since.
or basically, 20% on the fringes like now, with 60% in the middle busy trying to live their lives day by day. and that is where both parties try to shave and shave and shave until they have their 20%, and 30% of the center, plus a little more.
tjtryon wrote:
I personally think that the gay thing is wrong morally, though I'm not the one to preach. Nowhere does this fact play into my arguements. If someone is gay, and they are not hitting on me or affecting me, they can do as they wish, it's not my business. Don't go changing the definition of marriage though....
OMG. Did you really call it the "gay thing"?????
If that's what my post said, then apparently I did. I'm in an environment where I actually need to be PC, my terminology is usually much worse...
Yeah, I know, I'm a dick sometimes...
TJ Tryon "We are the people our parents warned us about"
tjtryon wrote:
I personally think that the gay thing is wrong morally, though I'm not the one to preach. Nowhere does this fact play into my arguements. If someone is gay, and they are not hitting on me or affecting me, they can do as they wish, it's not my business. Don't go changing the definition of marriage though....
OMG. Did you really call it the "gay thing"?????
If that's what my post said, then apparently I did. I'm in an environment where I actually need to be PC, my terminology is usually much worse...
Yeah, I know, I'm a dick sometimes...
So you have no problem being a dick, but you wouldn't want to marry one?
If some Republicans, the Religous Right, and some Democrats are so worried about protecting marriage why dosen't the Government try and outlaw divorce? I think over 50% of marriages end in divorce. Can't blame the Gays for that one. Why they are at it they could make adultry a crime. Wonder how many of these moralists would find themselves in hot water?
12vmanRick wrote:Bill you are a great guy, sorry about your house maybe it was the gays.
Seriously, if you are trying to say two people of any race, religion, sex or anything else can't be in love and marry, you're just wrong.
BB, PG and Coconuts thanks for the support on my answer.
I haven't given an opinion either way.
You made a blanket statement and I thought it needed to be qualified.
How many times in recent months/years have we seen the government sticking their noses into the private lives of the citizens? Here is another example! Don't we as a nation have better things to focus our attention on than this? This is just an attempt on the "far right wing nuts" to force their opinions or beliefs on us. I see it as a huge waste of time!
12vmanRick wrote:
BB, PG and Coconuts thanks for the support on my answer.
No problem Rick.....this subject has a very personal thing for me....I have a brother that is gay and he is married.....and VERY happy.....They were married in Ma.....
my sister...who is also gay has been w/the same partnerfor 13yrs have 2 daughters and they are probably happier then most hetrosexual couples that I know......
So I guess it just makes my skin crawl when people think it is so wrong....they aren't any different then the rest of us....and they have rights
"But there’s this one particular harbor so far but yet so near"
Can someone please explain to me exactly why the "union of a man and a woman" needs "protecting"? How does two men getting married across town put your marriage at risk? I'm missing something.
smacky wrote:Can someone please explain to me exactly why the "union of a man and a woman" needs "protecting"? How does two men getting married across town put your marriage at risk? I'm missing something.
12vmanRick wrote:
BB, PG and Coconuts thanks for the support on my answer.
No problem Rick.....this subject has a very personal thing for me....I have a brother that is gay and he is married.....and VERY happy.....They were married in Ma.....
my sister...who is also gay has been w/the same partnerfor 13yrs have 2 daughters and they are probably happier then most hetrosexual couples that I know......
So I guess it just makes my skin crawl when people think it is so wrong....they aren't any different then the rest of us....and they have rights
Please don't hate me, but I think it's incredibly funny that your parents had to go through not 1, but 2 children coming out.
After the 2nd one, did they just turn to you and ask if you had something to share with the class, too?
12vmanRick wrote:
BB, PG and Coconuts thanks for the support on my answer.
No problem Rick.....this subject has a very personal thing for me....I have a brother that is gay and he is married.....and VERY happy.....They were married in Ma.....
my sister...who is also gay has been w/the same partnerfor 13yrs have 2 daughters and they are probably happier then most hetrosexual couples that I know......
So I guess it just makes my skin crawl when people think it is so wrong....they aren't any different then the rest of us....and they have rights
Please don't hate me, but I think it's incredibly funny that your parents had to go through not 1, but 2 children coming out.
After the 2nd one, did they just turn to you and ask if you had something to share with the class, too?
i was thinking the same thing next they'll blame it on fluoridating the water
so BB when are you coming to PHX to experience Jenna's strip club?
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:
so BB when are you coming to PHX to experience Jenna's strip club?
i knew not that such a thing existed!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY!!!!!!!!
well, my best friend is moving there the end of this year AND hubby's best friend lives in tucson, so an AZ trip might not be too far off.
actually, if i drive down with my friend when she moves, it might be sooner rather than later!!! she's waiting 'til it's cold here to move somplace warm.
