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Lightning Bolt wrote:Here's a different spin on this...

Given the fact that nearly 55% of marriages (straight) today end in divorce,
this would appear to claim that a MAJORITY of Americans find that getting married in the FIRST PLACE was a big, costly mistake.

I move that we BAN ALL MARRIAGES (as indicated by today's numbers.)

This would be much more consistent with this administration's view towards its citizens anyway: You're on your own!!

j/k ... mostly! lol

thegoatgod wrote:How can you deny some the right to marriage and how can you say just call it something else. Wouldn't that be like saying only men can drink Pepsi and women coke? Or even like the white restrooms, and the colored restrooms? I do not understand how one human can look at another human and say you cannot get married because our sexual preferences are different. You don't look at someone and say you can not go out to eat with me because you will not order the same thing as I do. If gay marriage is banned whats next, banning marriage of the people in different financial classes? Or people of different races? I say let who ever wants to marry do it. You share the same city, state, country, favorite sports team, movie, vacation spot, and you even share the same air with people everyday that aren't the same as you, and don't all believe, act, or support the same things you do, and it hasn't killed you yet.


(The "you" is not directed at anyone so no one take that as a personal attack)

tjtryon wrote: Marriage, as defined, is a religious union between a man and a woman.

tikitatas wrote:I find that the deeper opposition is more on an emotional than religious level, and has less to do with what it is called and more to do with equality. No matter what it is called, many opponents simply don't accept one fact: that a same-sex couple's marriage/union/partnership could be the same as their own. And that is what it is -- the same. Same in all the ways goat mentioned. Bills, anniversaries, illnesses, sex, kids, retirement planning, decisions, parents aging, holidays . . .

LIPH wrote:To lighten things a little more, we'd have to change the definition of divorce.

Divorce: a latin term meaning to remove a man's testicles through his wallet.

If 2 women were married, then got divorced, there aren't any testicles involved.

SharkOnLand wrote:

tikitatas wrote:I find that the deeper opposition is more on an emotional than religious level, and has less to do with what it is called and more to do with equality. No matter what it is called, many opponents simply don't accept one fact: that a same-sex couple's marriage/union/partnership could be the same as their own. And that is what it is -- the same. Same in all the ways goat mentioned. Bills, anniversaries, illnesses, sex, kids, retirement planning, decisions, parents aging, holidays . . .

The sex is a little different....

tikitatas wrote:Same in all the ways goat mentioned. Bills, anniversaries, illnesses, sex, kids, retirement planning, decisions, parents aging, holidays . . .

tjtryon wrote:

tikitatas wrote:Same in all the ways goat mentioned. Bills, anniversaries, illnesses, sex, kids, retirement planning, decisions, parents aging, holidays . . .

Some new medical advancements I haven't heard of?

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

tjtryon wrote: Marriage, as defined, is a religious union between a man and a woman.

since "marriage" is officially sactioned by the state, it is not a religious union.

but i understand your point. if i had my way, the state would issue a civil union license to a couple regardless of sexual preference with all the legal rights, privileges, and obligations etc. etc etc....

if you chose to have religious ceremony (marriage) in addition to your civil union, have at it in accordance with the principles and practices of your church, great.... however your marriage is not legally binding nor entitles you to any legal rights without a civil union.

this approach also cleans up the little problem of separation of church and state, current church marriages create....

tjtryon wrote:

tikitatas wrote:Same in all the ways goat mentioned. Bills, anniversaries, illnesses, sex, kids, retirement planning, decisions, parents aging, holidays . . .

Some new medical advancements I haven't heard of?

inked-parrotthead wrote:I cant believe this is all our government has to worry about,energy,war,healthcare....and they are gonna waste time on this isnt there enough misrable people out there!!!

parrotsgirl wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

Mr. Play wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:no law should ever be passed telling someone else what their morals should be.

Should it be legal to vandalize?
Steal?
Kill?

If you answer No to any of the above, how do the laws against those acts not tell people what their morals should be?

Being gay or being in a gay marriage doesn't cause harm to others in the same way to vandalize, steal, or kill.

Just my opinion, but, couples who are legally married are more likely to own property, which is how most schools are funded; couples who are legally married spend more money together, which is good for the economy; couples who are legally married are probably more likely to be monogomous, reducing the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Gay or not, there's a lot our country could GAIN by not banning homosexual marriages, but we seem to afraid to "go there."

I think America is afraid of gay marriage because of Christianity. That if we, as Americans, support gay marriage, we will go to hell.

you are so right Mal.....People just walk around w/blinders on to things they think is different...what they dont realize is these people are real people....and they have rights just like everyone else.....

It's people's fears that keep them from supporting it.....and as Brad said....I dont think stopping Gay Marriage is going to keep us from going to hell....

tjtryon wrote:
I personally think that the gay thing is wrong morally, though I'm not the one to preach. Nowhere does this fact play into my arguements. If someone is gay, and they are not hitting on me or affecting me, they can do as they wish, it's not my business. Don't go changing the definition of marriage though....