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Posted: June 29, 2006 2:18 pm
by green1
tikitatas wrote:green1 wrote:tikitatas wrote:
We have beer and popcorn, but a Conservative MINORITY government.
And US Air Force recruiting commercials on your TV stations. Why is that?
On Canadian networks? CTV/CBC?
Remember all US networks are broadcast here, as well as France, Mexico and BBC.
I don't know who the broadcast was from, but TLW and I were in Vancouver and watching the nightly news, it cut to commercial and the US Air Force came on. It was kind of funny.
Posted: June 29, 2006 2:19 pm
by tikitatas
green1 wrote:tikitatas wrote:green1 wrote:tikitatas wrote:
We have beer and popcorn, but a Conservative MINORITY government.
And US Air Force recruiting commercials on your TV stations. Why is that?
On Canadian networks? CTV/CBC?
Remember all US networks are broadcast here, as well as France, Mexico and BBC.
I don't know who the broadcast was from, but TLW and I were in Vancouver and watching the nightly news, it cut to commercial and the US Air Force came on. It was kind of funny.
American network programming, I feel sure.
Posted: June 29, 2006 2:59 pm
by PirateJohn
green1 wrote:I am all for people wanting to be here. That is the American way. I don't even care, at this point, if they are here illegally or legally. I just want our government to know who is in this country. That, lack of knowledge is what scares me far, far more than someone who sees the opportunity offered by this country and grabs it.
I am in agreement with you.
In the USA we have had a tradition of not requiring any sort of national identification card for US citizens. In the current political climate I have tremendously mixed emotions about the wisdom and practicality of that, coupled with the reality that with changes in technology it's not out of the question for the Feds to know where you are at every moment, and that's scary. Anyway, that's just about another issue.
As far as legal guest workers go, I don't see a problem with having them carry and display on demand to the authorities some pretty strong identification. My gut feeling is that if the INS would get their act together and open more offices with better hours and maintain better records, they could issue a guest worker visa. This could then be used to obtain a driver's license or a non-driver's identification card at any state DMV. And that would be a major step towards identifying guest workers as well as knowing where they are living at.
Posted: June 29, 2006 3:00 pm
by PirateJohn
green1 wrote:tikitatas wrote:green1 wrote:tikitatas wrote:
We have beer and popcorn, but a Conservative MINORITY government.
And US Air Force recruiting commercials on your TV stations. Why is that?
On Canadian networks? CTV/CBC?
Remember all US networks are broadcast here, as well as France, Mexico and BBC.
I don't know who the broadcast was from, but TLW and I were in Vancouver and watching the nightly news, it cut to commercial and the US Air Force came on. It was kind of funny.
Maybe they were looking for the "brightest and best" and were running out in the States? I dunno about the Air Force, but other branches of the US military do not require that you be a US citizen to enlist.
Posted: June 29, 2006 3:16 pm
by flyboy55
tikitatas wrote:green1 wrote:tikitatas wrote:green1 wrote:tikitatas wrote:
We have beer and popcorn, but a Conservative MINORITY government.
And US Air Force recruiting commercials on your TV stations. Why is that?
On Canadian networks? CTV/CBC?
Remember all US networks are broadcast here, as well as France, Mexico and BBC.
I don't know who the broadcast was from, but TLW and I were in Vancouver and watching the nightly news, it cut to commercial and the US Air Force came on. It was kind of funny.
American network programming, I feel sure.
you have my sympathies.
Posted: June 29, 2006 3:20 pm
by green1
PirateJohn wrote:Maybe they were looking for the "brightest and best" and were running out in the States? I dunno about the Air Force, but other branches of the US military do not require that you be a US citizen to enlist.
Not sure about the Air Force, but I know that in the Army you don't need to be a citizen. At the same time, I whole heartedly agree with Bush's policy to grant citizenship to anyone who serves in combat with one of the branches of the US military.
Posted: June 29, 2006 3:49 pm
by The Lost Manatee
PirateJohn wrote:green1 wrote:I am all for people wanting to be here. That is the American way. I don't even care, at this point, if they are here illegally or legally. I just want our government to know who is in this country. That, lack of knowledge is what scares me far, far more than someone who sees the opportunity offered by this country and grabs it.
I am in agreement with you.
In the USA we have had a tradition of not requiring any sort of national identification card for US citizens. In the current political climate I have tremendously mixed emotions about the wisdom and practicality of that, coupled with the reality that with changes in technology it's not out of the question for the Feds to know where you are at every moment, and that's scary. Anyway, that's just about another issue.
As far as legal guest workers go, I don't see a problem with having them carry and display on demand to the authorities some pretty strong identification. My gut feeling is that if the INS would get their act together and open more offices with better hours and maintain better records, they could issue a guest worker visa. This could then be used to obtain a driver's license or a non-driver's identification card at any state DMV. And that would be a major step towards identifying guest workers as well as knowing where they are living at.
Actually it's not all that difficult for private businesses to know where you are at all times and it is getting easier all the time as RF tags work their way into our lives, along with cell phones that have GPS, etc. In the not too distant future any sort of privacy will be a facade and nothing more.
Posted: June 29, 2006 4:21 pm
by PirateJohn
The Lost Manatee wrote:PirateJohn wrote:green1 wrote:I am all for people wanting to be here. That is the American way. I don't even care, at this point, if they are here illegally or legally. I just want our government to know who is in this country. That, lack of knowledge is what scares me far, far more than someone who sees the opportunity offered by this country and grabs it.
I am in agreement with you.
In the USA we have had a tradition of not requiring any sort of national identification card for US citizens. In the current political climate I have tremendously mixed emotions about the wisdom and practicality of that, coupled with the reality that with changes in technology it's not out of the question for the Feds to know where you are at every moment, and that's scary. Anyway, that's just about another issue.
As far as legal guest workers go, I don't see a problem with having them carry and display on demand to the authorities some pretty strong identification. My gut feeling is that if the INS would get their act together and open more offices with better hours and maintain better records, they could issue a guest worker visa. This could then be used to obtain a driver's license or a non-driver's identification card at any state DMV. And that would be a major step towards identifying guest workers as well as knowing where they are living at.
Actually it's not all that difficult for private businesses to know where you are at all times and it is getting easier all the time as RF tags work their way into our lives, along with cell phones that have GPS, etc. In the not too distant future any sort of privacy will be a facade and nothing more.
Shhhhhh ... the next thing that you know your driver's license will have RF tags.
Wait a minute. You didn't hear that idea from me.
Re: This should be interesting
Posted: June 29, 2006 4:47 pm
by st.somewhere
PirateJohn wrote:The migrants were invited and encouraged to come to the USA.
Did Captain Morgan there invite anyone? Most likely not.
Actually, I did. I met an extremely hot girl from Venezeula while vacationing in Aruba about 10 years ago. I invited her to come visit me for the summer, which she did in like 95 or was it 94?
To the best of my knowledge, shes no longer here...
Re: This should be interesting
Posted: June 29, 2006 4:56 pm
by PirateJohn
st.somewhere wrote:PirateJohn wrote:
The imigrants were invited and encouraged to come to the USA.
Actually, I did. I met an extremely hot girl from Venezeula while vacationing in Aruba about 10 years ago. I invited her to come visit me for the summer, which she did in like 95 or was it 94?
To the best of my knowledge, shes no longer here...
Her name wasn't Loreena, was it?
Look at it this way -- things could be worse. Whether she's from Venezuela or Tennessee or California, she could have moved in. And invited her mother. And her brother, once he gets out of prison. And she could have added 150 lbs. in a decade and decided that she really hated this Buffett person.
Oh, never mind. I think that scenario is hitting too close to home for some of us
True story: I used to date a gal who was an executive for a trade organization in DC. We were at a bicycle shop (hard to imagine now, but a decade ago I was getting back into Olde Pharte Racing) and she casually mentioned that "Lorena's shop is across the mall." Turned out that the former Ms. Bobbitt had a thriving nail practice and that the gal that I was dating went to see her for those ever-important manicures and pedicures.
Needless to say, when I broke up with her I did it by email. I haven't been back to DC since
