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Now you're trying to me it's about music

now if you take Elvis Immitators for what it is, which is a song about Elvis Immitators, then it's a good and fun song.
I used to hate it but now like it. I think Jimmy does a pretty good King.

"gonna rock rock rock brrrr"

sonofabeach wrote:now if you take Elvis Immitators for what it is, which is a song about Elvis Immitators, then it's a good and fun song.
I used to hate it but now like it. I think Jimmy does a pretty good King.

"gonna rock rock rock brrrr"

It's all in the attitude

Elvis Imitators makes me lmao!!!

Also, that and some of Steve Goodman's songs made me listen to Michael Smith, the Dutchman...and Jerry Jeff's version, etc etc.

Just Ducky, if you hang around here some I think you will notice that most of the folks here are way into all kinds of music.

There are many fans, or parrotheads, or whatever you want to call them who feel Jimmy's music is the background music for their life. His music is the catalyst to make us branch out and listen to lots of other stuff tho, as well as inspiring us to get off our butts and run, walk, sail, drink, dance, travel, eat, dream, play a guitar, play with family, work for fun tickets, etc.

I can't even imagine skipping a concert (althought I understand folks who just don't enjoy them anymore,and, of course I bought Summer Rental in the first place because Jimmy had a song called Turning Around in it.

Jimmy's also the reason I got Music for Our Mother Ocean CDS, and Life on the Gulf, and Laid Back and Key Wasted, Boats to Build, even IMAGINATION by Brian Wilson.

Sorry you felt like you had to waste your time and come here to dis parrotheads instead of sharing more of your knowledge of our web sites namesake. We all have better things to do, but dadgummit, BN is just more fun sometimes.

JustDucky wrote:No, they're not that negative. I wouldn't classify that as negative really.

Well they've not been the most 'cheerful'.

http://www.buffettnews.com/forum/search ... 74&start=0

Oh now hold on! Oh man this has gone wayyyyy beyond...what my statements were MEANT to be. So I riled a few people up - that was my intention but not like it's turned out to be. It's happened before. I thought it would be more...on the level with his catalog. I'm - now I know I said too much...but you see, ah hell, screw it. Live and learn. Maybe. Yet.

Oh I Get It. I've always Gotten It. No one is superiour. No one. I'm just not there, Getting It, anymore. I'm beyond it, not in a 'I'm better' way or however it is perceived to be. I'm just over it. On to other things. Not bigger or better, just other. I still love JBs LPs and songs and shows and books (and whatever) and I'm still interested, more than some people I know who are long time fans, in the new things he does (dating back to even Fruitcakes).

My dad got me into Jimmy so long ago and now he thinks everything he does, dating back to Barometer Soup, stinks. He, for the most part, liked everything Jimmy had done up to Feeding Frenzy. His first Buffett show was at Munn Ice Arena in East Lansing, MI in 1975 (I think) for the, I believe, Havana Daydreamin' tour when Jimmy showed up with just Harry Dailey and Fingers because everyone else had gotten stuck in some blizzard somewhere and he said it was a great show. Fruitcakes to him was an average LP but was better than more than half of what he had done back to Volcano, which he never cared for.

It was Mango and Riddles that really took away from those previous albums to him, and I heard what he was saying, because we used to listen to all of those LPs chronologically and "get it". The previous LPs were far better to him. To which I agree. I do, and did, see his point...from that point of view overall. It took a long time for him to like Lizard. A long time. It wasn't until we saw Jimmy at the Palace or whatever it is where the Pistons played when the Nevilles or Little Feat opened up that he started to like Lizard and that was months after the LP came out. And he has been a Buffett fan since 1974, me since 1978. I'm just not devoted to it like I used to be or how a lot of people are, at buffettnews.com or anywhere. And the questioning of why I bother to be on this, buffettnews, can p-i-s-s off with a lime in it. I still check it out because I'm still interested and I check things out and see what's going on and see what people have to say and once in a while I feel the need to, Mobile, AL speaking, raise some cane. And if I get banned, so be it. I doubt that will happen, it is the United States.

I'm not dissing anyone who is a Parrot Head, even if it came across that way, even though the Parrot Heads have made it difficult to get tickets. I love what buffettnews.com is and has done and keeps on keepin' on. I DID say the bit about the shows becoming...more people, a lot more people, got interested and it made it difficult for long time followers - fans - pre-Parrot Heads - of Jimmy. I don't blame anyone, ha ha, no pun intended, for liking Jimmy's music or anything or whatever he is a part of or has inspired for anyone. He has opened up miles of imagination for many that are stuck inland way up where it's cold and so on. Lots of other etceteras too. But that is not directly because of buffettnews.

My whole original point was there are good and great Buffett LPs and tunes and there are weak and bad Buffett LPs and tunes - just like any other artist out there. And "Turning Around" brought that out. That tune is the worst song he's ever produced. Based on his entire catalog. And I posted it. And I thought, like myself, people would have the guts to admit that some of what Jimmy has done stinks.

Obviously there are people who think JB's s-h-i-t don't stank.

It's obvious, based on a lot of polls and threads or posts or whatever that some think he has done some clunkers and some think everything he has done is gold. Point is, he HAS done some clunkers.

There is no harm in saying he has. So GET over IT.

Even Jimmy admits it. Not directly in those words. But he is amazed at what he has created. And how it escalated itself. Of course he did what he thought to be the upcoming wave (the country tunes in the mid-1980s) or what would be the hit (Tales and Lizard prove that MCA and his managers screwed that one up). What he thought. I stand by what I said. "Turning Around" stinks.

Cool link for the flying boats/seaplanes, whoever that was. I can't recall at this moment. Thank you for sharing that. I just got back from being out on the dock by the bayou and I'm full of Abita Amber. Which is, ha ha ha ha ha, miles better than....Corona Extra.

Purple People Eater gets my vote for worse as well as Werewolves of London but I'm sure there are some that like them.

btw
Riddles In The Sand is one of my favorite Buffett albums and Love In Decline is one of my favorite songs.
Some people think they stink but who cares?
To each his own.

Of the 508 songs in the buffettnews.com song database, Turning Around clearly ranks as the 247th best song ever, right!? Anyone who disagrees can k-i-s-s m-y .........oops, sorry, was just feelin' a little ducky for a minute there

JustDucky wrote:For some reason I just caught the end of Summer Rental (I was just surfing through HBO or one of those overpriced movie cable moguls) and at the end of the movie this awful sound came out - it was Buffett's Turning Around. Horrendous! Terrible! Awful! Painful! Reminded me of why Last Mango In Paris is so bad. No wonder Turning Around was never allowed to be released on any CD - it's probably Buffett's worst ever produced song. His singing is bad too.

That Arachnophobia song Bug Me is almost as bad. Bug Me when it's a movie about spiders? Strange choice there.

Are you insane???? I love that song and it sounds great at the point of the movie at which it's played...You a Backstreet Boys fan aren't you?

sonofabeach wrote:Purple People Eater gets my vote for worse as well as Werewolves of London but I'm sure there are some that like them.

Werewolves of London sounds a little better live. Maybe it's the crowd howling.

No, Mr CaptainRRK, the problem is it sounds like, from what you said, the Backstreet Boyz took a few lessons from this song, that's how lame it is. Glad to see you are familiar with the sound. It's that lame mid 1980s Prince's Darling Nikki/When Doves Cry (and a few other artists) broom closet no ice in the freezer push button production lack of sound.

I just don't get it how people are defending a turd - the PRODUCTION sucks, therefor the song stinks. If Jimmy would have done this song right, say during CILCIA or SOC then it would be a better song. But he didn't - he cut the balls off of this tune just by putting all that push-button s h i t in there.

And I don't understand how the rank of this floater ranks on the buffettnews.com...whatever that was. You people are beyond. This song has now officially become Shining A Turd. I'll make a point to ask around this summer and see what some other people have to say. See if they GET IT. I bet they say Yeah I get it, this song sucks.

JustDucky wrote:No, Mr CaptainRRK, the problem is it sounds like, from what you said, the Backstreet Boyz took a few lessons from this song, that's how lame it is. Glad to see you are familiar with the sound. It's that lame mid 1980s Prince's Darling Nikki/When Doves Cry (and a few other artists) broom closet no ice in the freezer push button production lack of sound.

mmmm... Prince may not have had every song be a hit, but he is a great musician (and even better eccentric...) You might pull out a different 80s act instead... and no, not Morris and the &*$(*(#%* TIME, either Yo!....

The SOUND of some of the songs, that broom-closet digital sound of some of the elctronic drums etc...that Prince did, not whether he was great or not. Some of Jimmy's mid-1980s LPs had songs with a similar sound (a really bad sound actually). Like on Turning Around - the terrible production. That's what I was getting at.

JustDucky wrote:... the PRODUCTION sucks, therefor the song stinks.

OK... I finally understand what you were trying to say.
You find the production on the recording of this song
sub-par. I can understand that. A shame you didn't
say that clearly in the first place. No... wait... I guess
you did. However, your opinion that bad production =
bad song is what confused and riled people up, because
most folks here would not agree with that. A composition,
and sometimes even a performance, shouldn't be judged
by poor production. Granted, the product is the result of
the production, but that doen't make the original creation
(i.e. the "song") bad. MNSHO
And yes, we do listen to the poorly produced recordings anyway.

JustDucky wrote:The SOUND of some of the songs, that broom-closet digital sound of some of the elctronic drums etc...that Prince did, not whether he was great or not. Some of Jimmy's mid-1980s LPs had songs with a similar sound (a really bad sound actually). Like on Turning Around - the terrible production. That's what I was getting at.

To be fair, a ton of artist had that same sound during the 80s.
Hot Water and Off To See The Lizard also have that "digital" sound.
Heck, those 2 albums could be a double album with the way they sound similar productionwise. Of course that's not a bad thing at all.

On The Summer Rental DVD, "Turning Around" sounds mono so I ran it through my mixer and added a little more bass and more treble trying to give it a "fake stereo" sound. Opinions are like elbows, I still like the song.

Turning Around - Jimmy Buffett
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