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Posted: **July 12, 2006 9:01 pm**

JustDucky wrote:I played Altered Boy for a friend of mine, a Buffett fan from way back, and he thought it stunk. But you see, he wasn't listening, he was just hearing it and for what it was not - classic Jimmy Buffett.

By no means is it a great song like I Have Found Me A Home or Tin Cup Chalice or Havana Daydreamin' or Wonder Why We Ever Go Home or Cowboy In The Jungle or Incommunicado or Somewhere Over China or Twelve Volt Man or Lone Palm or Island Fever.

But I like it. I like it because it's not Classic Buffett. Anyone can get into all the SYKBH and etc...but what about The Other Songs is what keeps me going back. Altered Boy is silly - obviously so. If you actually listen to it, he even introduces the song as a style from way off in faraway lands where the bands play music like that and just don't stop.

So it's rather obvious Jimmy is just having fun with a typical smarmy hotel lounge cocktail song that is, lyrically, about the absurdity of rich people. And that's good enough for me to enjoy it. I'd rather listen to Holiday or Altered Boy than Cheeseburger aaaaggggaaaaiiiiinnnnnn.

Well said and I get all things you point out in your post but it still s ucks.

When it comes to vintage Buffett vs. the new stuff I'm not looking for him to recreate the past as that would be even worse. Draw from it maybe but not repeat it. Not related to "Altered Boy" at all but I don't think every Buffett song has to have an island beat, steel drums or some sort of novelty slant to be good. Tunes such as "Six String Music" are evidence of that. I like the island tinged stuff too but I'm also just as huge a fan of Buffett the songwriter (or interperator, which seems to be more of the case these days).

Posted: **July 12, 2006 10:13 pm**

Really, just write some new songs already....done with sooo many covers. A couple are ok but what happened to the old Jimmy???

Posted: **July 12, 2006 11:10 pm**

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Jahfin wrote:Hey, it's better than an album full of "Hokey Pokey's" and "Altered Boy's".
But.... but...... I like "Altered Boy", too!

(Love the "Peter Pan" reference.... )

Altered Boy is on RM now.

Now that's one we never heard in concert...

Posted: **July 12, 2006 11:15 pm**

conched wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Jahfin wrote:Hey, it's better than an album full of "Hokey Pokey's" and "Altered Boy's".
But.... but...... I like "Altered Boy", too!

(Love the "Peter Pan" reference.... )
Altered Boy is on RM now.

Now that's one we never heard in concert...

And, Miles just said it gives his goose bumps!! He doesn't think Jimmy has done it live.

Has anyone ever heard Altered Boy live?

Posted: **July 12, 2006 11:16 pm**

conched wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Jahfin wrote:Hey, it's better than an album full of "Hokey Pokey's" and "Altered Boy's".
But.... but...... I like "Altered Boy", too!

(Love the "Peter Pan" reference.... )
Altered Boy is on RM now.

Now that's one we never heard in concert...

But Miles just said that one gives him goosebumps...

Posted: **July 13, 2006 12:05 am**

photogal wrote:Really, just write some new songs already....done with sooo many covers. A couple are ok but what happened to the old Jimmy???

I guess the new album will reveal if Buffett's returned to doing more of the songwriting. He occasionally gets a good one off but more times than not he's seemed better suited to do songs that have been penned specificallly for him. If it turns out the well has indeed run dry I'd sooner take Buffett covering Mac (as well as other writers) than be subjected to weak material. When he does covers he tends to have a knack for making them his own, I prefer that too to hearing him lose touch with his former prowess as a songwriter.

Posted: **July 13, 2006 7:48 am**

i wouldnt be surprised if we get at least 1 of these covers on the next album:

the horizon has been defeated
lighthouse
time loves a hero

he played them on the salty piece of land tour last year and he's done that before and then released them on a new album.just like everybody's talkin'.

Posted: **July 13, 2006 7:53 am**

changingchannels wrote:i wouldnt be surprised if we get at least 1 of these covers on the next album:

the horizon has been defeated
lighthouse
time loves a hero

he played them on the salty piece of land tour last year and he's done that before and then released them on a new album.just like everybody's talkin'.

oooo..... Lighthouse would be cool!!

Posted: **July 13, 2006 8:22 am**

Jahfin wrote:I guess the new album will reveal if Buffett's returned to doing more of the songwriting. He occasionally gets a good one off but more times than not he's seemed better suited to do songs that have been penned specificallly for him. If it turns out the well has indeed run dry I'd sooner take Buffett covering Mac (as well as other writers) than be subjected to weak material. When he does covers he tends to have a knack for making them his own, I prefer that too to hearing him lose touch with his former prowess as a songwriter.

I also have to wonder if time (or rather lack thereof) has a lot to do with Jimmy's songwriting. He's a very busy guy these days, and any kind of writing takes lots of time... If his songwriting has fallen off, I'd have to look first at time pressures moreso than loss of talent.

But besides that, he's written some damn fine songs along the way. I always wonder about prolific songwriters and fiction writers; where do they come up with their next idea? At some point, do they actually run out of things to write about?

Posted: **July 13, 2006 6:30 pm**

Ahh Jahfin! You are correct! It's not a good song by any means. It's funny but in a good way (compared to something really lame like Cultural Infidel or Math Suks). It's cheesy though and certainly nothing to be held up to the past.

However, Altered Boy is miles above Turning Around.

Posted: **July 14, 2006 11:44 am**

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Jahfin wrote:I guess the new album will reveal if Buffett's returned to doing more of the songwriting. He occasionally gets a good one off but more times than not he's seemed better suited to do songs that have been penned specificallly for him. If it turns out the well has indeed run dry I'd sooner take Buffett covering Mac (as well as other writers) than be subjected to weak material. When he does covers he tends to have a knack for making them his own, I prefer that too to hearing him lose touch with his former prowess as a songwriter.
I also have to wonder if time (or rather lack thereof) has a lot to do with Jimmy's songwriting. He's a very busy guy these days, and any kind of writing takes lots of time... If his songwriting has fallen off, I'd have to look first at time pressures moreso than loss of talent.

But besides that, he's written some damn fine songs along the way. I always wonder about prolific songwriters and fiction writers; where do they come up with their next idea? At some point, do they actually run out of things to write about?

And he also has broadened into a Best Selling Author--

I think "Here We Are" is the "Fruitcakes" of this decade and Party at the End will grow on most fans the more they hear it.

Posted: **July 17, 2006 12:59 pm**

I didn't like "Altered Boy" at first, but it got me- and my 15 year old daughter, hooked on Martin Denny....

Posted: **July 19, 2006 3:45 am**

Thank you! Finally somebody said it! Martin Denny was a true genius. . . the Jimmy Buffett of his day. Hell, maybe even bigger. . . he, along with Don the Beachcomber and Trader Vic Bergeron pretty much singlehandedly started the "Tiki" generation of the 50's that pretty much held its grasp on America imagination all the way up to the '70's disco generation.
Martin Denny's influence created a soundtrack for a whole generation of Mai Tai, Pina Colada and Volcano Bowl drinking Americans that paved the way for Jimmy Buffett's success with Margaritaville.
Jimmy owes a lot to Martin Denny and between "Altered Boy" and even his own version of "Quiet Village" on the Hawaii live CD, he has tried to give back with these tributes (a true shout out to a legend).
No they aren't typical Jimmy, they weren't meant to be. . . but they stand on their own for what they are.

Posted: **July 19, 2006 6:03 am**

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Jahfin wrote:I guess the new album will reveal if Buffett's returned to doing more of the songwriting. He occasionally gets a good one off but more times than not he's seemed better suited to do songs that have been penned specificallly for him. If it turns out the well has indeed run dry I'd sooner take Buffett covering Mac (as well as other writers) than be subjected to weak material. When he does covers he tends to have a knack for making them his own, I prefer that too to hearing him lose touch with his former prowess as a songwriter.
I also have to wonder if time (or rather lack thereof) has a lot to do with Jimmy's songwriting. He's a very busy guy these days, and any kind of writing takes lots of time... If his songwriting has fallen off, I'd have to look first at time pressures moreso than loss of talent.

But besides that, he's written some damn fine songs along the way. I always wonder about prolific songwriters and fiction writers; where do they come up with their next idea? At some point, do they actually run out of things to write about?

yes they do. Not saying that Tom Clancy is a great writer, but he is prolific, and now he's basically reduced to franchising his name out to other writers (who are not even as good) for sales. At some point, you run out of ideas and your take on the world is well-known so your books tend toward "makin' the rent" rather than innovation.

Posted: **July 19, 2006 8:51 am**

I like Altered Boy and I do get a kick out of Math Suks....

To be honest, the only JB song I skip every time is WDWGDAS... just don't like that song at all

Posted: **July 23, 2006 12:01 pm**

Any word if buffett's cover of "If I had a boat" by lyle lovett will be on the new cd-ever since COBO went done i havent heard it-would love to hear more boat/fishing/key west stories on his upcoming album

Posted: **July 23, 2006 1:48 pm**

parrotheadstueby wrote:Any word if buffett's cover of "If I had a boat" by lyle lovett will be on the new cd-ever since COBO went done i havent heard it-would love to hear more boat/fishing/key west stories on his upcoming album

You can find it and other stuff in "The Vault" under Downloads at CoB,O You will have to register to download.

Posted: **July 23, 2006 2:19 pm**

In mailboat's lingo, LP=Late Project, so I think you're correct.

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