ROVE: BUSH'S FIRST VETO WOULD BE STEM-CELL BILL

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » July 10, 2006 7:35 pm

ROVE: BUSH'S FIRST VETO WOULD BE STEM-CELL BILL

President Bush likely will cast the first veto of his presidency if the Senate, as expected, passes legislation to expand federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research, White House aide Karl Rove said Monday.

"The president is emphatic about this," Rove said in a meeting with the editorial board of The DENVER POST.

The U.S. House of Representatives has already passed the legislation, co-sponsored by Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Colo., and Rep. Mike Castle, R-Del. If the Senate approves the bill this month it would go to the president's desk.

"It is something we would, frankly, like to avoid," Rove said

Crazy Navy Flyer · Post by **Crazy Navy Flyer** » July 10, 2006 9:28 pm

I hope the Senate has enough votes to override the veto.

AlbatrossFlyer · Post by **AlbatrossFlyer** » July 10, 2006 10:07 pm

bush's lapdog, sen. frist will kill it before a vote....

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » July 10, 2006 10:28 pm

which is so freaking pathetic. Just in the past few weeks I saw a story about lab rats with broken backs who had been treated with stem cells walk again.

Demerara · Post by **Demerara** » July 10, 2006 10:37 pm

ph4ever wrote:which is so freaking pathetic. Just in the past few weeks I saw a story about lab rats with broken backs who had been treated with stem cells walk again.

Legislation can't stop progress - only delay it. In another generation, it'll be here. Alas, in the meantime, thousands (millions?) continue to suffer and die...

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » July 10, 2006 10:41 pm

Demerara wrote:
ph4ever wrote:which is so freaking pathetic. Just in the past few weeks I saw a story about lab rats with broken backs who had been treated with stem cells walk again.
Legislation can't stop progress - only delay it. In another generation, it'll be here. Alas, in the meantime, thousands (millions?) continue to suffer and die...

Oh I realize that, it's just freaking pathetic that so many will suffer

AlbatrossFlyer · Post by **AlbatrossFlyer** » July 10, 2006 10:49 pm

what's pathetic is the research is happening, just not in the US....

jonesbeach10 · Post by **jonesbeach10** » July 10, 2006 10:55 pm

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:what's pathetic is the research is happening, just not in the US....

And we will wonder why we are no longer at least the sole superpower 25 years from now...

ejr · Post by **ejr** » July 10, 2006 11:26 pm

If he vetoes this---shame on him!

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » July 11, 2006 12:00 am

Any veto will likely be overturned... even in a GOP Congress!
What does this say about the RELEVANCE of this pathetic "leader" we've got?

Vote out the conservative fools that backed this "worst-ever" presidency this November.

Positive change on SO MANY fronts can be here sooner than you think...

....one more thing, my fellow BNer's & Parrotheads... just think, WWJD?

rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » July 11, 2006 9:45 am

Lightning Bolt wrote:WWJD?

I do!

You were asking who wanted Jack Daniels, right?

NYCPORT · Post by **NYCPORT** » July 11, 2006 10:18 am

I dare any of his right wing flunkies to justify this. One more notch in the holster for this clown going down as one of the worst Presidents in history.

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » July 11, 2006 10:21 am

rednekkPH wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:WWJD?
I do!

You were asking who wanted Jack Daniels, right?

z-man · Post by **z-man** » July 11, 2006 10:23 am

Crazy Navy Flyer wrote:I hope the Senate has enough votes to override the veto.

wCNFs

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » July 11, 2006 10:28 am

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:what's pathetic is the research is happening, just not in the US....

exactly. Kinda like those countries that said, "the New World? Nahhh. The world is flat"

They're on the ashheap of history. And thanks to Shrub, and his Religious-Right backers, we are heading there faster than most "non-believers" are heading for hell..

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » July 11, 2006 10:29 am

NYCPORT wrote:I dare any of his right wing flunkies to justify this. One more notch in the holster for this clown going down as one of the worst Presidents in history.

proof that electing a C-minus student President is probably a bad idea...

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » July 11, 2006 10:34 am

Crazy Navy Flyer wrote:I hope the Senate has enough votes to override the veto.

ditto!!

Big Red Parrothead · Post by **Big Red Parrothead** » July 11, 2006 11:15 am

12vmanRick wrote:
Crazy Navy Flyer wrote:I hope the Senate has enough votes to override the veto.
ditto!!

Unfortunately, that probably won't even matter. The bill passed the House 238-194. It would take 290 votes (two-thirds of the House) to override. So, even if the bill passes the Senate with a veto-proof majority, at least 26 House members would have to switch their votes to override. That's not gonna happen--especially not in an election year.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D ... query.html

krusin1 · Post by **krusin1** » July 11, 2006 11:28 am

NYCPORT wrote:I dare any of his right wing flunkies to justify this. One more notch in the holster for this clown going down as one of the worst Presidents in history.

Right wing flunkie reporting for duty...

First thing... when you kill an embryo, you've killed an unborn child.

Second... Bush came out against stem cell funding a long time ago. What surprises you about this veto threat? At least he's not a "finger-in-the-wind" policitian. He has principles and sticks to them. A long time ago in a country not so far away, they called that being honorable.

Third... When Harry S. Truman left office fifty years ago, he was largely considered a failed president, in fact one of the worst in our history. Hindsight and history are 20/20, though, and now his legacy is being embraced by both Democrats and Republicans.

If we win the war on terror, I wouldn't be surprised to see George W. receiving similar accolades about fifty years from now.

(Now donning my flame-proof suit.)

live2ski · Post by **live2ski** » July 11, 2006 11:42 am

krusin1 wrote:
NYCPORT wrote:I dare any of his right wing flunkies to justify this. One more notch in the holster for this clown going down as one of the worst Presidents in history.
Right wing flunkie reporting for duty...

First thing... when you kill an embryo, you've killed an unborn child.

Second... Bush came out against stem cell funding a long time ago. What surprises you about this veto threat? At least he's not a "finger-in-the-wind" policitian. He has principles and sticks to them. A long time ago in a country not so far away, they called that being honorable.

Third... When Harry S. Truman left office fifty years ago, he was largely considered a failed president, in fact one of the worst in our history. Hindsight and history are 20/20, though, and now his legacy is being embraced by both Democrats and Republicans.

If we win the war on terror, I wouldn't be surprised to see George W. receiving similar accolades about fifty years from now.

(Now donning my flame-proof suit.)

Dude you know you are arguing with an alum of the second most freakish college in the US right?