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Can we really believe what we read and see in the press? You decide...

Don't know if this is all true, just found it INTERESTING. So please, no nasty political stuff, if you will.


Be sure to turn your sound up to hear the description.

http://www.aish.com/movies/PhotoFraud.asp

I trust the news less than I trust our government and that is REALLY saying something.

I think a lot of our news is propoganda for one "cause/position" or another as opposed to impartial...instead of honestly telling a story they're looking for reaction and impact...so the truth is often clouded (if not lost).

Interesting video. I do however like to look at the source. In this case I was curious that all the examples were about over-exaggeration of recent Israeli actions in Lebanon...so I wasn't surprised at all to find that aish.com is a Jewish site. I'm not placing any political (or religious) judgements here, just sharing that this particular example comes from behind another propaganda/vested interest curtain.

I saw that last week
What a dirtbag photogragher.

Quiet and Shy wrote:I do however like to look at the source.

Thanks, Alison. I hadn't had a chance to do that.

I think it is ALWAYS important to consider the SUBJECT of the news report and it's SOURCE from which the report is emerging.
Then... you go and get another take from another source!
I don't take seriously anyone who listens to ONE NEWS SOURCE ONLY!

When you see reports from Lebanon, you know you're just not going to get the best objectivity from Al-Jezeera OR The Jeruselum Post
(I was monitoring both, and you'd swear the holocaust was replaying on BOTH sides.)

What troubles me is the biases that clearly emerges from A FEW of the U.S. sources.
If you want the pro-Bush, conservative take on things, just go to FOX news
(they are so jaded in my eyes, that they really should be renamed the FAUX-G.O.P. news). I do find that both NBC and CBS to be a little more on the liberal side,
but not see-sawed over as strongly as Fox.
The way it would appear over the few years I've debated (and bickered) with some folks here, and on other boards,
is that people will gravitate toward the SLANT that they WANT to hear.
Gathering facts and hearing multiple sources will be damned by most.

"I want to hear ONLY the news I WANT to hear.. the rest is too depressing."

I want my MTV...

Lightning Bolt wrote:I think it is ALWAYS important to consider the SUBJECT of the news report and it's SOURCE from which the report is emerging.
Then... you go and get another take from another source!
I don't take seriously anyone who listens to ONE NEWS SOURCE ONLY!

When you see reports from Lebanon, you know you're just not going to get the best objectivity from Al-Jezeera OR The Jeruselum Post
(I was monitoring both, and you'd swear the holocaust was replaying on BOTH sides.)

What troubles me is the biases that clearly emerges from A FEW of the U.S. sources.
If you want the pro-Bush, conservative take on things, just go to FOX news
(they are so jaded in my eyes, that they really should be renamed the FAUX-G.O.P. news). I do find that both NBC and CBS to be a little more on the liberal side,
but not see-sawed over as strongly as Fox.
The way it would appear over the few years I've debated (and bickered) with some folks here, and on other boards,
is that people will gravitate toward the SLANT that they WANT to hear.
Gathering facts and hearing multiple sources will be damned by most.

"I want to hear ONLY the news I WANT to hear.. the rest is too depressing."

I want my MTV...

I go to 2 sources for news every morning. The Wall Street Journal for fact, and the New York Times for fiction.

live2ski wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:I think it is ALWAYS important to consider the SUBJECT of the news report and it's SOURCE from which the report is emerging.
Then... you go and get another take from another source!
I don't take seriously anyone who listens to ONE NEWS SOURCE ONLY!

When you see reports from Lebanon, you know you're just not going to get the best objectivity from Al-Jezeera OR The Jeruselum Post
(I was monitoring both, and you'd swear the holocaust was replaying on BOTH sides.)

What troubles me is the biases that clearly emerges from A FEW of the U.S. sources.
If you want the pro-Bush, conservative take on things, just go to FOX news
(they are so jaded in my eyes, that they really should be renamed the FAUX-G.O.P. news). I do find that both NBC and CBS to be a little more on the liberal side,
but not see-sawed over as strongly as Fox.
The way it would appear over the few years I've debated (and bickered) with some folks here, and on other boards,
is that people will gravitate toward the SLANT that they WANT to hear.
Gathering facts and hearing multiple sources will be damned by most.

"I want to hear ONLY the news I WANT to hear.. the rest is too depressing."

I want my MTV...

I go to 2 sources for news every morning. The Wall Street Journal for fact, and the New York Times for fiction.

Both those papers (and the L.A. Times) ran the story of the U.S.-monitoring of terrorist financial tracking a couple months back.
Only the NY Times was singled out by W and Cheney as a leading source of interference in our "fight for freedom".

IMO, aside from the news media, the most offensive propaganda machine out there today runs right from the White House.
..and that's truly a shame.

SMLCHNG wrote:...

So please, no nasty political stuff, if you will.

geeze. LB, you must get most of your news from television, you obiously don't read very well...


and he calls me a right sided convervative, Live2Ski..can you imagine?

Moonie wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:...

So please, no nasty political stuff, if you will.

geeze. LB, you must get most of your news from television, you obiously don't read very well...


and he calls me a right sided convervative, Live2Ski..can you imagine?

Dude is way way way to the left. That makes you look like a right winger. I just feel sorry for him. Every sports team in San Diego is horrible. And that makes him cranky.

well good morning!

damn, I'm cranky today ... (again!)
Padres lost again????!!!! arggghhhhhh %$$^%$&^^$&%%!!!!
Better read the newspaper... oh... why bother with those big words?

hmmm... what's for breakfast.... more bacon? nahhh don't want to open a new package. would have to break that Costco Club seal, and NOBODY should do that!

oh well, have a great day all! Sunny and 84º out here today

SMLCHNG wrote:Can we really believe what we read and see in the press? You decide...

Don't know if this is all true, just found it INTERESTING. So please, no nasty political stuff, if you will.


Be sure to turn your sound up to hear the description.

http://www.aish.com/movies/PhotoFraud.asp

A friend of mine emailed that to me yesterday Penny.
I have found (especially with the Mideast latley) that Shepard Smith from Fox news is pretty down to earth.

Lightning Bolt wrote:well good morning!

damn, I'm cranky today ... (again!)
Padres lost again????!!!! arggghhhhhh %$$^%$&^^$&%%!!!!
Better read the newspaper... oh... why bother with those big words?

hmmm... what's for breakfast.... more bacon? nahhh don't want to open a new package. would have to break that Costco Club seal, and NOBODY should do that!

oh well, have a great day all! Sunny and 84º out here today

Bacon? I thought your kind only ate Tofu.

Quiet and Shy wrote:I think a lot of our news is propoganda for one "cause/position" or another as opposed to impartial...instead of honestly telling a story they're looking for reaction and impact...so the truth is often clouded (if not lost).

Interesting video. I do however like to look at the source. In this case I was curious that all the examples were about over-exaggeration of recent Israeli actions in Lebanon...so I wasn't surprised at all to find that aish.com is a Jewish site. I'm not placing any political (or religious) judgements here, just sharing that this particular example comes from behind another propaganda/vested interest curtain.

I dunno, I think there's a lot less cause than effect going on here.

Let's compare the photo editors (who buy photos from the field) to restauranteurs (who buy fish from fishermen).

The restauranteurs aren't really interested in getting more people to eat tilapia. They just want people to buy more fish. So they buy something that looks good (and cheap), they don't bother to check whether it's tilapia or red snapper, they put it up for sale as red snapper with an attractive price -- lo and behold, the guy who usually orders a burger buys fish instead.

The photo editors don't generally have a grand scheme to undo the state of Israel, they just want to sell more papers. The photos that come in from Claude van Whoozis look like the kind of thing that will sell more papers, so they don't look too close to see whether or not Claude staged or manipulated the photo.

When the choice comes down to greedy and dumb versus conniving and wicked, it's usually best to assume greedy and dumb. It's just human nature.

live2ski wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:well good morning!

damn, I'm cranky today ... (again!)
Padres lost again????!!!! arggghhhhhh %$$^%$&^^$&%%!!!!
Better read the newspaper... oh... why bother with those big words?

hmmm... what's for breakfast.... more bacon? nahhh don't want to open a new package. would have to break that Costco Club seal, and NOBODY should do that!

oh well, have a great day all! Sunny and 84º out here today

Bacon? I thought your kind only ate Tofu.

Where's your head, Troy?
Tofu really only goes well with the spinach quiche!

bravedave wrote:

Quiet and Shy wrote:I think a lot of our news is propoganda for one "cause/position" or another as opposed to impartial...instead of honestly telling a story they're looking for reaction and impact...so the truth is often clouded (if not lost).

Interesting video. I do however like to look at the source. In this case I was curious that all the examples were about over-exaggeration of recent Israeli actions in Lebanon...so I wasn't surprised at all to find that aish.com is a Jewish site. I'm not placing any political (or religious) judgements here, just sharing that this particular example comes from behind another propaganda/vested interest curtain.

I dunno, I think there's a lot less cause than effect going on here.

Let's compare the photo editors (who buy photos from the field) to restauranteurs (who buy fish from fishermen).

The restauranteurs aren't really interested in getting more people to eat tilapia. They just want people to buy more fish. So they buy something that looks good (and cheap), they don't bother to check whether it's tilapia or red snapper, they put it up for sale as red snapper with an attractive price -- lo and behold, the guy who usually orders a burger buys fish instead.

The photo editors don't generally have a grand scheme to undo the state of Israel, they just want to sell more papers. The photos that come in from Claude van Whoozis look like the kind of thing that will sell more papers, so they don't look too close to see whether or not Claude staged or manipulated the photo.

When the choice comes down to greedy and dumb versus conniving and wicked, it's usually best to assume greedy and dumb. It's just human nature.

Yep, greedy and dumb is another way to put it...if something makes the impact, they get more viewers, ad revenue, etc. Therefore, they're focused on ratings vs. objectivity or truth.

As a result, I believe the press in this country has become a polarizing force (playing to the extremes)...which is really quite sad (just take a look at the hostility and divisiveness that comes out of any political discussion on BN...or almost anywhere else, for that matter...it's almost become a form of self-induced sabotage.)

Quiet and Shy wrote:Interesting video. I do however like to look at the source. In this case I was curious that all the examples were about over-exaggeration of recent Israeli actions in Lebanon...so I wasn't surprised at all to find that aish.com is a Jewish site. I'm not placing any political (or religious) judgements here, just sharing that this particular example comes from behind another propaganda/vested interest curtain.

Yes, Aish is a Jewish organization. In some people's eyes (mine for instance), they are a bit cult-like in their recruitment of people. I saw them take someone who was moderately observant and turn her into someone who was *very* observant.

Now, I don't have a problem with people re-discovering their faith or becoming more involved with it, that can be a good thing. I don't have a problem with people bagging it entirely and saying it's not for them. But, I do have a problem, is when it turns people 180 degrees from what/who they once were.

Back to the point though, like with everything we hear and read, you need to take this information with a grain of salt.

live2ski wrote:

Moonie wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:...

So please, no nasty political stuff, if you will.

geeze. LB, you must get most of your news from television, you obiously don't read very well...


and he calls me a right sided convervative, Live2Ski..can you imagine?

Dude is way way way to the left. That makes you look like a right winger. I just feel sorry for him. Every sports team in San Diego is horrible. And that makes him cranky.

pretty scary when someone is so far left...makes me look rightie..huh?

Moonie wrote:I've been watching Anderson Cooper 360 for some years now...

and...I really like him...

CNN as a whole seems to be much more center than many of the networks news organizations.