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SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

PalmTreeGal wrote:Maybe that's my problem. I've been revoking his privileges when he poops in his pants. If you're not supposed to punish them, then what do you do about it?

Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

This sounds dangerous, but at this point any suggestions sounds good.

Or better yet... He's 4, and can converse.... Ask HIM what he thinks he should do to keep his big-boy pants clean. Buy him some way-cool underwear (I have no idea what's cool these days) and tell him he has to keep the poop off (whoever the cool underwear guy is... with mine it was Power Rangers... ) Put him in charge of keeping himself clean and then he has the control he wants.

Masters of the Universe here..

My 3 boys were all between ages 3 and 4 when they potty trained. I had great advice from friends and doctors not to sweat it, that no kid ever went to college in diapers, they would train in their own time, and I would NEVER win a power struggle that involved THEIR bladder or bowels, so no point fighting that battle. Potty training in our house was late, but relatively painless.

OceanCityGirl wrote:Os he required to be fully trained for the montessorri school? Would they take him sooner? If you are uncomfortable with the current provider this might be a good idea. Pay her for the two weeks but switch schools early ahd eat the cost. Or if you think they were both having a bad day then monitor things closely and try to get thru the rest of the time.
You could consider telling your son mommy knows it was an accident. Not sure if that would be appropriate at his age. Tell the provider you are working on occasional accidents and need her cooperation not to discipline for them. 21/2 is still very young esp. for a boy. Alot of boys, mine included take longer then that. I would expect some regressing when you switch schools though.

The thing is, he IS fully potty trained. Every kid has accidents now and then. It was just one of those times. He's been in underwear 24 x 7 for months now, even naps/night and generally gets really upset when he has an accident.

We've already paid up with the current day care lady for the remainder of our time with her, but there's not openings at the Montessori until 6/5, his start date.

What I really WANT to do, is dump the current lady, but I have no back-up child care for the next two weeks while we wait for Montessori time.

I expect he'll regress a bit when he goes to Montessori, but they are prepared for that and expect it, too. It's a really, really, really, really good program. All of the "lead" teachers have masters degrees in some sort of child-related field and all of the other teachers must have a minimum of a bachelor degree. The employees are paid well (we won't even discuss tuition). But, you get what you pay for and I love the Montessori philosophy.

longlinergirl wrote:

Mr Play wrote: Accidents happen, even in the bathtub when you least expect it

That only seems to happen with my kid when we are staying at someone's house...I think it may be on purpose

In our child psych class they said not to associate anything bad with potty training nor push kids into it...so I might be a tad upset if someone punished my kid for pooping in his pants.

My daughter always used to have accidents at other peoples houses as well. I'm sure it was on purpose.

Everything I've ever known about parenting is you simply do not punish or discipline for potty-related incidents. Every single thing has been to the contrary to what happened yesterday.

I didn't bring it up this morning because there were a whole bunch of parents right there, but I'm going to pick him up with hubby tonight and we'll talk to her then.

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:My 3 boys were all between ages 3 and 4 when they potty trained. I had great advice from friends and doctors not to sweat it, that no kid ever went to college in diapers, they would train in their own time, and I would NEVER win a power struggle that involved THEIR bladder or bowels, so no point fighting that battle. Potty training in our house was late, but relatively painless.

Exactly. That sounds almost exactly like something my pediatrician would say. (She also says the same thing about blankies, go figure ).

rednekkPH wrote: Breeders are funny.

I'll stick with the kids who just scratch on the door when they have to go potty.

Has indoor plumbing made it to Oneida yet?

RinglingRingling wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

PalmTreeGal wrote:Maybe that's my problem. I've been revoking his privileges when he poops in his pants. If you're not supposed to punish them, then what do you do about it?

Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

This sounds dangerous, but at this point any suggestions sounds good.

Or better yet... He's 4, and can converse.... Ask HIM what he thinks he should do to keep his big-boy pants clean. Buy him some way-cool underwear (I have no idea what's cool these days) and tell him he has to keep the poop off (whoever the cool underwear guy is... with mine it was Power Rangers... ) Put him in charge of keeping himself clean and then he has the control he wants.

Masters of the Universe here..

Boy underwear is wayyyy funny. We have Thomas the Tank Engine, Finding Nemo, Spiderman.. .but his favorites of all have no characters. He likes the little-boy boxer briefs 'cause that's what daddy wears. Tony makes sure he and daddy have matching underwear each day. It's quite funny.

2 1/2 is early for potty training, that is great for you!! The person watching is mad you are leaving and took it out on the child, I would wait to discuss until she no longer has that ability. But if she thinks a child that young does that on purpose, you may want to question her abilities anyway.
My oldest keet peed at 3, but poop didnt happen until 5. He had digestive track issues. But if you try to scold or make him hide to do it, we will start holding it in, and that isnt good for anyone. We saw a couple specialists on this (who knew they existed??) so if you have any questions feel free to PM me and I can pass along what I know.

buffettbride wrote: Boy underwear is wayyyy funny. We have Thomas the Tank Engine, Finding Nemo, Spiderman.. .but his favorites of all have no characters. He likes the little-boy boxer briefs 'cause that's what daddy wears. Tony makes sure he and daddy have matching underwear each day. It's quite funny.

Don't forget Bob the Builder, it's a favorite in our house.

Hockey Mon wrote:

buffettbride wrote: Boy underwear is wayyyy funny. We have Thomas the Tank Engine, Finding Nemo, Spiderman.. .but his favorites of all have no characters. He likes the little-boy boxer briefs 'cause that's what daddy wears. Tony makes sure he and daddy have matching underwear each day. It's quite funny.

Don't forget Bob the Builder, it's a favorite in our house.

We're all about the Bob! I don't think a day has gone by in months where I haven't heard him say, "Can I fix it? YES I CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!"

RinglingRingling wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

PalmTreeGal wrote:Maybe that's my problem. I've been revoking his privileges when he poops in his pants. If you're not supposed to punish them, then what do you do about it?

Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

This sounds dangerous, but at this point any suggestions sounds good.

Or better yet... He's 4, and can converse.... Ask HIM what he thinks he should do to keep his big-boy pants clean. Buy him some way-cool underwear (I have no idea what's cool these days) and tell him he has to keep the poop off (whoever the cool underwear guy is... with mine it was Power Rangers... ) Put him in charge of keeping himself clean and then he has the control he wants.

Masters of the Universe here..

Sponge Bob boxers- "Chicks dig the Sponge".

Why do I see this entire thing spinning in a different direction?

SchoolGirlHeart wrote: Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

I agree 100%

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

PalmTreeGal wrote:Maybe that's my problem. I've been revoking his privileges when he poops in his pants. If you're not supposed to punish them, then what do you do about it?

Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

This sounds dangerous, but at this point any suggestions sounds good.

Or better yet... He's 4, and can converse.... Ask HIM what he thinks he should do to keep his big-boy pants clean. Buy him some way-cool underwear (I have no idea what's cool these days) and tell him he has to keep the poop off (whoever the cool underwear guy is... with mine it was Power Rangers... ) Put him in charge of keeping himself clean and then he has the control he wants.

Masters of the Universe here..

Sponge Bob boxers- "Chicks dig the Sponge".

Why do I see this entire thing spinning in a different direction?

because this crew could hijack a Brinks Truck convoy on an off-day without working up a sweat?

I poop my pants all the time to p*ss people off...

RinglingRingling wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote: Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

This sounds dangerous, but at this point any suggestions sounds good.

Or better yet... He's 4, and can converse.... Ask HIM what he thinks he should do to keep his big-boy pants clean. Buy him some way-cool underwear (I have no idea what's cool these days) and tell him he has to keep the poop off (whoever the cool underwear guy is... with mine it was Power Rangers... ) Put him in charge of keeping himself clean and then he has the control he wants.

Masters of the Universe here..

Sponge Bob boxers- "Chicks dig the Sponge".

Why do I see this entire thing spinning in a different direction?

because this crew could hijack a Brinks Truck convoy on an off-day without working up a sweat?

Hubby has a few pair of Sponge Bob boxers. He has "Sponge Bob Nerdy Pants" and a pair that the opening is horizontal rather than vertical and the little "pocket" it makes says, "That's the biggest pineapple I've ever seen."

I almost forgot! We had "doo-doo candy"....why is was poop or doo-doo, dunno, but it was and it DID work. Marshmellows for Mollie and Wether's for Jim. Whatever is his favorite. And we had "potty books" that I would only read on the pot. Sesame Street's ABC was a great one! (and Jim's book!)

SharkOnLand wrote:I poop my pants all the time to p*ss people off...

this might explain the cubicle at the end of the row...

PalmTreeGal wrote:It's interesting that this was posted b/c i'm having a poo issue with my over 4 yo keet. He goes #1 in the potty great. he stays dry during sleep time and only has an occasional accident. But the poo, he refuses to go in the potty. He knows when he needs to go b/c he goes and hides (which I usually miss) to poo in his pants. He has gone poo twice in the potty. I'm at my wits end. i think he does it on purpose. I think it's a control thing with him.

I wish I had some advice for you. I need some advice myself (sorry to hijack the thread). I have been thinking about posting myself just b/c i have run out of ideas on what to do.

Hang in there!
That is about what my four year old would do, he always uses the potty now but for awhile the thought had crossed my mind that he was doing it for the attention or to make us mad. He is an expert at making creatures mad, dogs, cats, people. We did get pretty hard on him though, the reward thing didnt really help. We got so tired of changing poop that I finally told him he HAD to use the potty and if he pooped in his pants I would throw him in the tub and hose him down to clean it up, well he kept pooping his pants and I hosed him down a few times which was not very pleasant and then he started trying to go on the potty. He got something special like a little chocolate when he did and then once he got used to it we didn't have to bribe him any more.

So anyway- be patient, but firm, try to get creative and find out what he is thinking and feeling, pretty soon it will all be behind you.

JP

BB- he is only 2 1/2 sheesh were talking 4 with cameron. Tony is ahead of shedule!

freddyfishstick wrote:
BB- he is only 2 1/2 sheesh were talking 4 with cameron. Tony is ahead of shedule!

Yeah. He was actually ready before we were. I guess I just got lucky. My daughter was potty trained at 20 months and Tony was potty trained by 26 months. He was definitely the harder of the two, but not hard by most parents standards of trying to potty train a boy.

buffettbride wrote:

freddyfishstick wrote:
BB- he is only 2 1/2 sheesh were talking 4 with cameron. Tony is ahead of shedule!

Yeah. He was actually ready before we were. I guess I just got lucky. My daughter was potty trained at 20 months and Tony was potty trained by 26 months. He was definitely the harder of the two, but not hard by most parents standards of trying to potty train a boy.

Some kids are just early. There are actually windows of opportunities with potty training. I believe the ages vary but you'll find kids get excited about doing it and some just get it. As in the case with mine, they didn't get it and as in the case of the older one, we tried a few months later and he got it. We are still waiting on the second. Point being, there seem to be times where kids are aware of what's going on and want to do something about it. If you don't teach them in that first go around, wait and you'll get the next one.

A friend of my wife (whose a social worker) has all the info to write a book on potty training; she just needs some spare time to do it.

Never thought I'd post so much about poop on a Buffett forum.