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You guys are cracking me up.

I am going to take a stand that isn't too popular. IS it possoble that something more in between happened??

Your son was sensing the up-coming change, the day-care provider kept putting him off( one more minute) whatever, and when your son got up to go it was too late?? Because of the earlier stress she jumped to an incorrect conclusion??? Sometimes we get mad at ourselves( for one too many minutes perhaps).

I have been told I am moody. But I also ask because one of our keets friends just peed the carpet last night. I was tired, had had a hard day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

I am NOT excusing her, but I DO wonder at the extenuating circumstances?? I think talking to her is the best course of action,as it sounds like she will be caring for your son for while. But maybe have a talk with your son to see what he thinks of the changes??? Helpful ways to deal with change, help him feel some control, too.

Anyway, GOOD LUCK!!!

rogue wrote:You guys are cracking me up.

I am going to take a stand that isn't too popular. IS it possoble that something more in between happened??

Your son was sensing the up-coming change, the day-care provider kept putting him off( one more minute) whatever, and when your son got up to go it was too late?? Because of the earlier stress she jumped to an incorrect conclusion??? Sometimes we get mad at ourselves( for one too many minutes perhaps).

I have been told I am moody. But I also ask because one of our keets friends just peed the carpet last night. I was tired, had had a hard day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

I am NOT excusing her, but I DO wonder at the extenuating circumstances?? I think talking to her is the best course of action,as it sounds like she will be caring for your son for while. But maybe have a talk with your son to see what he thinks of the changes??? Helpful ways to deal with change, help him feel some control, too.

Anyway, GOOD LUCK!!!

so hanging her by the wrists from the ceiling fan and pointing while laughing at her and calling her "Little Miss Stinky Pants" probably wasn't the best way to break her of that.. tho it was probably fun anyway

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

PalmTreeGal wrote:Maybe that's my problem. I've been revoking his privileges when he poops in his pants. If you're not supposed to punish them, then what do you do about it?

Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

This sounds dangerous, but at this point any suggestions sounds good.

Or better yet... He's 4, and can converse.... Ask HIM what he thinks he should do to keep his big-boy pants clean. Buy him some way-cool underwear (I have no idea what's cool these days) and tell him he has to keep the poop off (whoever the cool underwear guy is... with mine it was Power Rangers... ) Put him in charge of keeping himself clean and then he has the control he wants.

Masters of the Universe here..

Sponge Bob boxers- "Chicks dig the Sponge".

Why do I see this entire thing spinning in a different direction?

I love those! I am looking forward to seeing them more often!

rogue wrote: But I also ask because one of our keets friends just peed the carpet last night. I was tired, had had a hard day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

Too harsh??? If some 7 year old p*ssed on my carpet, their parents would be filling a missing child report right about now.

rogue wrote:day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

Does this child have learning, behavior or emotional disablitities?

Because without one of them....there is NO reason why a 7 year old should behave that way. If you corrected her short of physical voilence, I don't see how you could have been too harsh.

If her parent's haven't taught her this barest level of proper public behavior, then she's lucky it was you that gave her the lesson rather then someone that physically hurt her. If she does it again, talk to the parents or call CPS...that just isn't right at all.

Mr Play wrote: Accidents happen, even in the bathtub when you least expect it

With your child or with you

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

PalmTreeGal wrote:Maybe that's my problem. I've been revoking his privileges when he poops in his pants. If you're not supposed to punish them, then what do you do about it?

Put a diaper back on him. NOT as a punishment, but explain the fact that he can't be having poop on his big-boy pants, so until he can control the pooping better and make it to the potty, he'll have to wear a diaper for a little longer. Don't buy very many diapers; I suspect the problem will be corrected pretty quickly.

This is what I do with my kids I watch. If they have an accident, a Pull-Up or Diaper goes back on until they go on the potty again. They know they want to wear their underwear, so the next time, they WILL stop playing and go on the toilet.

Now, I see where the frustration for the day care lady comes from. I am not saying she should have put him in time out, just saying I know the frustration ( before anyone jumps on this, yes, I also know it is part of the job, but don't you get frustrated at your job somethmes?). Imagine, if you can, having 4-6 potty training puppies in your home. Having 4-6 potty training children is the same. You never know where or when the mess will happen. ( even if you are putting them on the potty often) This adds major clean up time to your day and time taken away from playing with the other children. Not to mention, floors or furniture can be stained. This is really frustrating when a parent shows up and says "Johnny mentioned that he wanted to start going on the potty last night, so he is in underwear today. Here are extra changes of pants." "Has Johnny peed on the potty yet?" "No, but he said he wanted to." Gee, thanks!


Anyways, if you are already leaving, I wouldn't make too big of a deal with her. Just tell her that you don't agree with her putting him in time out for an accident because that does not promote potty training very well.

RinglingRingling wrote:

rogue wrote:You guys are cracking me up.

I am going to take a stand that isn't too popular. IS it possoble that something more in between happened??

Your son was sensing the up-coming change, the day-care provider kept putting him off( one more minute) whatever, and when your son got up to go it was too late?? Because of the earlier stress she jumped to an incorrect conclusion??? Sometimes we get mad at ourselves( for one too many minutes perhaps).

I have been told I am moody. But I also ask because one of our keets friends just peed the carpet last night. I was tired, had had a hard day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

I am NOT excusing her, but I DO wonder at the extenuating circumstances?? I think talking to her is the best course of action,as it sounds like she will be caring for your son for while. But maybe have a talk with your son to see what he thinks of the changes??? Helpful ways to deal with change, help him feel some control, too.

Anyway, GOOD LUCK!!!

so hanging her by the wrists from the ceiling fan and pointing while laughing at her and calling her "Little Miss Stinky Pants" probably wasn't the best way to break her of that.. tho it was probably fun anyway

I wish I could have done that!!!!

rednekkPH wrote:

rogue wrote: But I also ask because one of our keets friends just peed the carpet last night. I was tired, had had a hard day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

Too harsh??? If some 7 year old p*ssed on my carpet, their parents would be filling a missing child report right about now.

Our back yard borders hers. I am sure that her parents would have noticed me burying something.

Soraya wrote:

rogue wrote:day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

Does this child have learning, behavior or emotional disablitities?

Because without one of them....there is NO reason why a 7 year old should behave that way. If you corrected her short of physical voilence, I don't see how you could have been too harsh.

If her parent's haven't taught her this barest level of proper public behavior, then she's lucky it was you that gave her the lesson rather then someone that physically hurt her. If she does it again, talk to the parents or call CPS...that just isn't right at all.

She doesn't have any problems other than her parents spoil her. She is rarely disciplined in any form. Her mother doesn't feel "the Princess" can do something wrong. She is the type of person who is first to tell you your faults; but gets her feelings mortally wounded if you criticize her. She also is the type of person who doesn't care who she hurts, as long as she gets what she wants.

I was secretly happy our keets smelled it so quickly because she would have had NO problem telling me or any other adult one of THEM did it. And I have no sense of smell so I wouldn't have been able to prove where the smell was coming from, let alone be able to find the spot on the carpet.

Mr Play wrote:Rub his nose in it and give him a spanking. That should teach him

works for Lassie.

rogue wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

rogue wrote: But I also ask because one of our keets friends just peed the carpet last night. I was tired, had had a hard day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

Too harsh??? If some 7 year old p*ssed on my carpet, their parents would be filling a missing child report right about now.

Our back yard borders hers. I am sure that her parents would have noticed me burying something.

do it late at night... a little water over the top avoids the telltale "bulge" according to a gravedigger my uncle knew.

RinglingRingling wrote:

rogue wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

rogue wrote: But I also ask because one of our keets friends just peed the carpet last night. I was tired, had had a hard day and was very vocal about my feelings. She is generally a terror with no regards to our keets feelings. SHE IS ALSO 7!! I was mad, but could have been too harsh as well.

Too harsh??? If some 7 year old p*ssed on my carpet, their parents would be filling a missing child report right about now.

Our back yard borders hers. I am sure that her parents would have noticed me burying something.

do it late at night... a little water over the top avoids the telltale "bulge" according to a gravedigger my uncle knew.

Good advice!! I'll remember that for next time!!!