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'Dog The Bounty Hunter' Arrested, Faces Extradition

Posted: September 14, 2006 4:44 pm
by CoronaShark
http://www.nbc10.com/news/9850095/detai ... i&psp=news

MSNBC has learned that U.S. officials have arrested TV reality star Duane "Dog" Chapman and two family members in Hawaii for extradition to Mexico.

Chapman's wife told MSNBC's Rita Cosby that heavily armed U.S. marshals arrived at the family's house today and took away Chapman, his brother, Tim, and son, Leland.

"I was getting the children ready for school and the U.S. marshals burst in our door and they just came right in and took him," said Beth Chapman on MSNBC.

"He was in shock. He was, he was shocked. He was shocked and he was amazed that the marshal's service that came to get him didn't even treat him as kind as he treats his own prisoners."

A representative from the Marshal's office had a different version of what happened in Hawaii.

"There were 7 deputy marshals who went to Chapman's home," said Jay Beber, from the U.S. marshal's office in Hawaii.

"We knocked on the door to announce that we were U.S. marshals. … Mr. Chapman was compliant and very respectful."

The Chapmans were in custody and expected to remain in custody for three days until a bond hearing is held.

Cosby said she was told that Mexican government officials wanted the three men sent back there in relation to a three-year-old case.

In 2003, the Chapmans went to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico to retrieve Max Factor heir Andrew Luster, who was wanted in the U.S. on rape charges.

Luster is now in jail, serving a 124-year term, but at the time, the Chapmans were also jailed by Mexican authorities for a brief time three years ago.

Bounty hunting is considered a crime in Mexico.

At the time, the Chapmans were charged by Mexican authorities with illegally capturing Luster. The three returned to the United States after posting bail of their own.

*sidenote* I read in another article they are all facing a maximum of 8 years each. Truly sad.

Posted: September 14, 2006 4:45 pm
by sunseeker
i like dog.... :(

Posted: September 14, 2006 4:52 pm
by Skibo
Bounty hunting is considered a crime in Mexico.
I get sad when people commit crimes.

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:21 pm
by ~Hippolyte~
Being extradited, to Mexico, for a misdemeanor?? WTF???!!?!??

It's hard enough to get people back from Mexico, and now they're taking a guy, they had in custody 3 years ago AND let go, they're taking him back?? again WTF!!

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:22 pm
by ph4ever
I wonder if the law that makes bounty hunting illegal in Mexico dates back to the "old west days" ?

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:27 pm
by ~Hippolyte~
ph4ever wrote:I wonder if the law that makes bounty hunting illegal in Mexico dates back to the "old west days" ?
I'm pretty sure Mexico is just p*** that they weren't told, by Dog, that he was there and was going to get Luster. Sounds like the US didn't know where Luster was either, but Dog knew!!
I just don't understand why the US is complying with Mexico, if (and this is what I've heard) the charges they were arrested on 3 years ago are misdemeanor charges? Again, Mexico doesn't extradite US fugitives very easily, so why is the US giving into their demands? Are we trying to set a good example? if so, this is a bad time to do that. Dog does much more good now, than bad.

Sorry, but I'm still pretty steamed about this. Of course I don't have all the facts, so I could be way off. :roll: :x :evil: :roll:

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:27 pm
by land_shark3
I didn't even know the US extradited their own citizens TO Mexico. :-?

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:33 pm
by springparrot
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14839076/
There is a video toward the middle of the page from msc.com with Beth being interviewed.

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:44 pm
by CoronaShark
My guess is that Luster was paying off the local officials there to keep his location quiet. Max Factor money kept him from authorities for a long time. It's well known how corrupt some Mexican police, politicians and "military" are and I'm fairly certain it had to of played a part.

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:49 pm
by ph4ever
springparrot wrote:http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14839076/
There is a video toward the middle of the page from msc.com with Beth being interviewed.
OK after hearing this I'm very angry!!! I'm sure anyone from Texas can back me up on what I'm about to say. There have been murders commited in Texas and in order to get the scumbag back over to stand trial you have to go thru a lengthy process plus usually not go for the death penality (Cause Texas uuuuussseeeesss it). You don't just call the Mexican government or fax them a warrant and expect it to get acted on in a timely manner. You have to bug the crap out of them to get a response.

Why did the US government act so dadgum quickly?? I mean what has happened with quid pro quo. That scumbag they picked up needed to be taken off the street no matter what country it happened in - not only to face charges here but to also make Mexico a safer place.

Posted: September 14, 2006 5:51 pm
by ph4ever
CoronaShark wrote:My guess is that Luster was paying off the local officials there to keep his location quiet. Max Factor money kept him from authorities for a long time. It's well known how corrupt some Mexican police, politicians and "military" are and I'm fairly certain it had to of played a part.
I'm steemed over the US jumping on it.

Posted: September 14, 2006 6:11 pm
by Tequila Revenge
~Hippolyte~ wrote:Being extradited, to Mexico, for a misdemeanor?? WTF???!!?!??

It's hard enough to get people back from Mexico, and now they're taking a guy, they had in custody 3 years ago AND let go, they're taking him back?? again WTF!!
Sounds SOOOOOOO F-ING WRONG!!!

Posted: September 14, 2006 6:43 pm
by RinglingRingling
CoronaShark wrote:My guess is that Luster was paying off the local officials there to keep his location quiet. Max Factor money kept him from authorities for a long time. It's well known how corrupt some Mexican police, politicians and "military" are and I'm fairly certain it had to of played a part.
No... Mexican officials are, to a man, upright, honest, and incorr...

sorry. I just sprayed coffee into my keyboard and couldn't continue typing..

Posted: September 14, 2006 9:50 pm
by ragtopW
Ok sorry but I'm gonna take a very unpopular view here

First.. Dog is a joke..
Second.. he (and crew) were in another country breaking that countrys laws. and at some point he is an officer of the court
Yes the guy needed to be brought in but, sorry Dog did it the wrong way.
(as far as I know, no less then 3 other crews were working on getting the guy too)
third I hate anyone coming into MY counrty and telling me what to do
or this is the way we do it in MY country, so why would I think it was right
for someone from the US to go elsewhere and do the same thing..
Fourth.. The law is the law no matter what country you are in.

Fifth how can we expect other counrtys to send back our (or their)
people when we will not return the favor..

sorry folks you cannot choose the laws you
want to uphold.. if He were wanted for any one of many other crimes you
would have been screaming for his head..

Posted: September 15, 2006 3:19 am
by CoronaShark
If Mexico had a reliable justice system maybe that arguement would hold water, but seeing as it doesn't and it's very corrupt, sorry. Mexican law and their justice system is a joke.

Posted: September 15, 2006 6:56 am
by ragtopW
CoronaShark wrote:If Mexico had a reliable justice system maybe that arguement would hold water, but seeing as it doesn't and it's very corrupt, sorry. Mexican law and their justice system is a joke.
covered in points three four and five as well as the wrapup

Posted: September 15, 2006 8:11 am
by Skibo
ragtopW wrote:Ok sorry but I'm gonna take a very unpopular view here

First.. Dog is a joke..
Second.. he (and crew) were in another country breaking that countrys laws. and at some point he is an officer of the court
Yes the guy needed to be brought in but, sorry Dog did it the wrong way.
(as far as I know, no less then 3 other crews were working on getting the guy too)
third I hate anyone coming into MY counrty and telling me what to do
or this is the way we do it in MY country, so why would I think it was right
for someone from the US to go elsewhere and do the same thing..
Fourth.. The law is the law no matter what country you are in.

Fifth how can we expect other counrtys to send back our (or their)
people when we will not return the favor..

sorry folks you cannot choose the laws you
want to uphold.. if He were wanted for any one of many other crimes you
would have been screaming for his head..
Yay! I find the responses amusing. If our government doesn't cooperate with other governments in extriditing, how can we expect others to cooperate with us. I am sure people in the Philadelphia area will remember Ira Einhorn. This murderer was living in france for 20 years after killing his girlfriend. The DA fought with France for 20 years to get him back in the US. People were outraged. He was very public and arrogant in his exile.

I forget the name of the kid that vandalized cars in Singapore, as punishment they were going to whoop is backside. Here again the US outrage. We tell the world that we are a country of laws and order yet there was quite an effort to keep this kid from receiving his punishment.

Ellian Gonzalez, his mother takes him from home, puts his life at risk and dies. Ellian was lucky to survive, instead of returning the minor to his country (where he belonged with his father) The final return was delayed for weeks while many people's opinion was to keep him here in the states.

We have laws, other countries have laws, obey or suffer the consequences. This person knew hunting in Mexico was illegal. He is not above the law in our country or any other. He is lucky he didn't violate a law in Turkey, Singapore or North Korea.

Posted: September 15, 2006 9:01 am
by Paradise
I have to agree. When in Rome... Sounds to me like he was showboating and now he has to pay the price. Choices/Consequences, aren't they great!?!

Posted: September 15, 2006 10:04 am
by ph4ever
Mexico historically drags its feet in any extradition from Mexico to the US. My question is why did the US jump on this one so quickly. IMHO it's the publicity this has caused. Now the question is did they do this to embarass Dog or will this make future extradition requests made by the US to Mexico be expedited quicker.

Posted: September 15, 2006 10:13 am
by rednekkPH
Maybe we can make a package deal and send him over along with the 12 million or so Mexicans that are breaking the law simply by being here.