Croce/Goodman Remembered

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Croce/Goodman Remembered

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9/20/73- Jim Croce passes
9/20/84 Steve Goodman passes

Just think of the music they would have made.

RIP
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Rest in peace, dear friends.
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Thanks, Goodman, for always reminding us of this. Steve was one of my favorite live performers, and it is still sad that he is no longer around.
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Re: Croce/Goodman Remembered

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Goodman wrote:9/20/73- Jim Croce passes
9/20/84 Steve Goodman passes

Just think of the music they would have made.

RIP
I'd like to thank my mom and her friends for introducing me to Jim Croce's music. I didn't realize he died the year I was born. :o :oops:
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Jim Croce was one of my early favorites. Amazing that I remember his songs on the radio and he died when I was six.
Rapid Roy that StockCar Boy... one of the greatest.
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scubamyk wrote:Jim Croce was one of my early favorites. Amazing that I remember his songs on the radio and he died when I was six.
Rapid Roy that StockCar Boy... one of the greatest.
LOL
I thought I was the only one.
I find myself singing Speedball Tucker in the shower.
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scubamyk wrote:Jim Croce was one of my early favorites. Amazing that I remember his songs on the radio and he died when I was six.
Rapid Roy that StockCar Boy... one of the greatest.
He got a tattoo on his arm that say "baby"
He got another one that just say "hey"

Croce was a master at painting a picture with song......I can visualize every one of his songs....
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Croce quote that says something to me.

"If you dig it, do it. And if you really dig it, do it twice."

Goodman lyrics.

"Give me some words I can dance to and a melody that rhymes."
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In 1975 an album was released called Jim Croce--The Faces I've Been.

Listening to that, there is a piece on it called Chain Gang Medley (Croce was also very fond of Sam Cooke.) As soon as that song started, I was reminded of the opening pedal steel on Trying To Reason with Hurricane Season.

Jimmy learned a lot by spending weekends out at the farm with Ingrid and Jim Croce.

Jimmy Buffett, like Jimmy Croce, has the ability to share his views on many subjects through great storytelling.

It seems Jimmy stepped right in after Croce's death with his songs about Americana and characters of America entertaining folks with his satire and wit and down-to-earth attitude.

...Going to find that JB SCRAPBOOK with Croce info.
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Croce v Buffett

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Croce's style-audience rap no doubt influenced Buffett. To me Croce's best stuff is his sadder stuff. Buffett kissed that material goodbye as it don't play well in the arenas for the most part. Not criticizing JB; just saying that JB went his own way.
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I used to be in charge of Telecom as one of my preivousHotel management jobs and I would find myself singing Operator alot.
Croce's Greatest hits is one of my favorite CDs and I have only fairly recently started listening to Goodman and I do like him allot.


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With thanks to Mark Humphrey for sharing his Jimmy Buffett Scrapbook with us and to Jimmy for endorsing it!

Just four months after Sport Coat appeared in June of 1973, Buffett was back in a Nashville studio wiht producer Don Gant to record his second ABC/Dunhill album, Living and Dying in 3/4 time. The first album was doing well, but not so well that a record label would normally start work on a new artist's second album so quickly. Fate played a hand in ABC's accelerated interest in Buffett.

"At the time he was working for ABC Records," recalls Chris Robinson, "so was Jim Croce. When Croce died, they [ABC] pushed Jimmy. I think they put their energy inot Jimmy more after Jim Croce died."


More from Scrapbook:

After years of scuffling, likable Jim Croce hit paydirt with the comic urban fable of "Bad Bad Leroy Brown" in 1973. The previous year's "You Don't Mess Around With Jim' paved the way, and Croce enjoyed phenomenal success (many TV appearances, including guest-hosting the popular Midnight Special) all to briefly. His death in a 1973 plane crash left fans mourning a down-to-earth star. His label, ABC, gazing at a deep sink in future revenues, picked newcomer Jimmy Buffett as the nearest thing to Croce on its artist roster and pushed Buffett with a pre-music video promotional film.

ABC promoted Buffett by showing a fifteen minute promotional film shot in "his natural Key West habitat" in ABC-owned theaters to hype Living and Dying in 3/4 Time.

We've all seen some of that promotional video now on Tales From Margaritavision, such as when Buffett and Jane head to the beach in God's Own Truck during Come Monday and speed across the water into the sunset.

(Thanks to Jimmy for sharing those videos with us, always leaving us hungry for more.)
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Re: Croce v Buffett

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Goodman wrote:Croce's style-audience rap no doubt influenced Buffett. To me Croce's best stuff is his sadder stuff. Buffett kissed that material goodbye as it don't play well in the arenas for the most part. Not criticizing JB; just saying that JB went his own way.
Goodman, it sure played nicely in the theater the other night when we got wonderful stories with songs like Railraod Lady, Pencil Thin Mustache, Nautical Wheelers.

Why...gingerbreadman and m&mm even saw a dancer jump up to dance just like at the old Lantern Inn on Stock Island when Jimmy and Mac played Nautical Wheelers.

It's nice to get a glimpse of those old songs.

About Jimmy going his own way, that Scrapbook also noted the one hit, Come Monday wasn't the type of song Jimmy wanted to be doing. He didn't want to be an "easy listening" artist.

Yeah, and I'm thankful for whatever took place in Jimmy's evolution as an artist. What he has done has kept his career alive for decades.

He still gives us a fair share of those ballads that can bring tears to our eyes, but still leave us feeling good at the same time.
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One last Scrapbook paragraph about Croce and Buffett connection:

Croce and Buffett shared more than the same label. Both told stories with their songs, some satiric, others sentimental. Both wore mustaches.

"I get a lot of comparisons with Jim Croce," Buffett told Stereo Review a year after Croce's death. "I guess that's because we were on the same label and we were good friends. He used to visit me down in Key West."


There's a lot more in this very well-written Scrapbook.

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I remember watching a documentary, or something like one, about Croce. He and Jimmy and James Taylor all lived together for a while in a kind of commune setting or something.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about and is there more info about it? Like did they work on songs together? How long did they room together? etc...
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scubamyk wrote:I remember watching a documentary, or something like one, about Croce. He and Jimmy and James Taylor all lived together for a while in a kind of commune setting or something.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about and is there more info about it? Like did they work on songs together? How long did they room together? etc...
I think I saw the story and they all used to go and stay at the Croce's place in Pennsylvania. I don't think it was like living in a commune tho, but who knows?

When our success in the music business seemed unattainable, we moved to the countryside in Pennsylvania and opened our home and hearts to our new community. Here we played our music just for fun. For one hundred dollars a month, which included all the flowers and vegetables our kind landlords allowed us to "rescue," we rented a three-room "smokehouse" apartment in an old farmhouse in Lyndell, Pennsylvania. Here Jim actually wrote "New York's Not My Home," and slowly we let go of our disappointment and found us a home.
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Amusing to me:

I was watching Ingrid and Jim Croce sing Spin Spin Spin and had just watched a bit of Andy Pettitte pitching for the Astros.

Gosh they look alike...NO? :wink: :D

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Picture of Jim

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conched wrote:Amusing to me:

I was watching Ingrid and Jim Croce sing Spin Spin Spin and had just watched a bit of Andy Pettitte pitching for the Astros.

Gosh they look alike...NO? :wink: :D

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Not gonna get into a photo contest ,but your pictures of a very young Jim remind me more of Jerry Lewis. Trademark Jim Croce has a mustache and perhaps a cigar in classic denim. :-) BTW Rick Danko (Bass player of The Band) once told me after a show that I looked like Jim Croce. Made my day. :-)
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Re: Picture of Jim

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Goodman wrote:Trademark Jim Croce has a mustache and perhaps a cigar in classic denim. :-) BTW Rick Danko (Bass player of The Band) once told me after a show that I looked like Jim Croce. Made my day. :-)
Cool! (Do you look like Andy Pettitte too? :lol: :lol: j/k)

I listened to every Croce album I have and one DVD yesterday. Too bad it doesn't take long to make it through his commerically made stuff. :(
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