Buffett sues alleged trademark infringer

Buffett News and Comments

Moderator: SMLCHNG

BB-Buster
Nibblin' on sponge cake
Posts: 14
Joined: November 13, 2006 10:44 pm

Post by BB-Buster »

Coconuts wrote:I really don't care what that idiot has to say.
Assuming that you are referring to the representatives of www.UnderOneHut.com, I urge you to take the time to review their side of the story. You may change your opinion.
ragtopW
Last Man Standing
Posts: 39130
Joined: December 18, 2001 7:00 pm
Number of Concerts: 0

Re: Jimmy Buffett Trademark Lawsuit

Post by ragtopW »

BB-Buster wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
BB-Buster wrote:I would urge all of you to take the time to review the following post on the www.UnderOneHut.com website regarding the Jimmy Buffett lawsuit:

http://www.underonehut.com/jimmy_buffett_lawsuit.htm

It appears that there are two sides to every story.
Did or did you not know the law was being broken??
Take the time to review the entry on the website before you pass judgment. As you can see, there was no law broken. Seriously, take the time to review it.
thanks for answering the question.. :roll:
ragtopW
Last Man Standing
Posts: 39130
Joined: December 18, 2001 7:00 pm
Number of Concerts: 0

Post by ragtopW »

Coconuts wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
Coconuts wrote:I really don't care what that idiot has to say.

:D which one?? me or the other one.. :D :D :D
:D

Oh- we bought Ginger Beer at Trader Joe's. It was great!


:D :D :cry: I ran out.. I need to call my soda guy to make a delivery..


I opened an account just for this.. :D :D :D
Mo2
I have found me a home
Posts: 139
Joined: June 12, 2003 3:11 am
Number of Concerts: 0
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada

Re: Jimmy Buffett Trademark Lawsuit

Post by Mo2 »

BB-Buster wrote:I would urge all of you to take the time to review the following post on the www.UnderOneHut.com website regarding the Jimmy Buffett lawsuit:

http://www.underonehut.com/jimmy_buffett_lawsuit.htm

It appears that there are two sides to every story.
Will this guy ever leave us alone? It is so odveious that BB-Buster is conected to "UnderOneHut" in some shape or form and is a vary sore looser!
Quiet and Shy
On a Salty Piece of Land
Posts: 10648
Joined: September 22, 2004 12:16 am
Number of Concerts: 15
Location: Centennial, CO

Post by Quiet and Shy »

BB-Buster wrote:
Coconuts wrote:I really don't care what that idiot has to say.
Assuming that you are referring to the representatives of www.UnderOneHut.com, I urge you to take the time to review their side of the story. You may change your opinion.
BB-Buster, I'm curious to know...what if any are your connections to Underonehut.com? If the info you have linked us to isn't your creation and site, how were you made aware of the info and link? (Given your recent arrival to BN and your posts focused on this topic, it appears you may be directly involved.) If so, that's okay and you're free to post your info and opinions on this here (and others are free to agree or disagree), but I'd suggest disclosure of your interests and background on this topic would be appropriate.

On another note, I read through the link and it's clearly messy legal stuff. This lawsuit seemed sloppy from the first news story I saw on it; I'm not sure anyone won this particular battle.
"Reading departure signs in some big airport reminds me of the places I've been"

50 countries and territories, 46 states...so far
conched
Last Man Standing
Posts: 31407
Joined: June 26, 2001 8:00 pm

Post by conched »

One thing that has confused me is why...

parrotsofthecaribbean.com goes to a ticket scalper?
BB-Buster
Nibblin' on sponge cake
Posts: 14
Joined: November 13, 2006 10:44 pm

Post by BB-Buster »

conched wrote:One thing that has confused me is why...

parrotsofthecaribbean.com goes to a ticket scalper?
Once the website was disabled in 2003 by Akard, the domain was up for grabs. The domain name was too long and did not make sense business wise.
conched
Last Man Standing
Posts: 31407
Joined: June 26, 2001 8:00 pm

Post by conched »

All this makes for some outstanding advertising.

Negative as it is!!

Buzbee gets $$ and in the news.

Jimmy and Margaritaville get spread throughout news...

underonehut hits it big in the news.

You are right. There is more than meets the eye.
Quiet and Shy
On a Salty Piece of Land
Posts: 10648
Joined: September 22, 2004 12:16 am
Number of Concerts: 15
Location: Centennial, CO

Post by Quiet and Shy »

BB-Buster, per your request, I took the time to read through the link you'd posted...and then you ignored my post and questions...not good manners around here. :-?
"Reading departure signs in some big airport reminds me of the places I've been"

50 countries and territories, 46 states...so far
BB-Buster
Nibblin' on sponge cake
Posts: 14
Joined: November 13, 2006 10:44 pm

Post by BB-Buster »

Quiet and Shy wrote:BB-Buster, per your request, I took the time to read through the link you'd posted...and then you ignored my post and questions...not good manners around here. :-?
Sorry, I had closed peepers. Yes, I am connected to UnderOneHut.com as their webmaster. I got real tired of seeing these folks get railroaded. They are good people, just trying to make a living. They don't sell bootleg or counterfeit merchandise. Everything with Jimmy Buffett's name or likeness is authentic product. That was not in dispute. What is in dispute is that Jimmy Buffett and his people don't want any competition on the internet. That is the real issue here. Unfortunately, Mr. Akard doesn't have the thousand of dollars to throw at lawyers to fight this thing.
Quiet and Shy
On a Salty Piece of Land
Posts: 10648
Joined: September 22, 2004 12:16 am
Number of Concerts: 15
Location: Centennial, CO

Post by Quiet and Shy »

BB-Buster wrote:
Quiet and Shy wrote:BB-Buster, per your request, I took the time to read through the link you'd posted...and then you ignored my post and questions...not good manners around here. :-?
Sorry, I had closed peepers. Yes, I am connected to UnderOneHut.com as their webmaster. I got real tired of seeing these folks get railroaded. They are good people, just trying to make a living. They don't sell bootleg or counterfeit merchandise. Everything with Jimmy Buffett's name or likeness is authentic product. That was not in dispute. What is in dispute is that Jimmy Buffett and his people don't want any competition on the internet. That is the real issue here. Unfortunately, Mr. Akard doesn't have the thousand of dollars to throw at lawyers to fight this thing.
Thanks for the reply.

I'll stand by my initial comments on this one...any direct trademark violating items needed to be removed -- whether 1% or 90% (the only black-and-white example I saw was merchandise containing "parrotheads".)

The whole thing should have been handled much more professionally and outside the courts (and press). Buzbee (Jimmy's local lawyer) showed himself to be a careless headline-seeker; he made Jimmy look very bad on this. Buzbee reached the goal line but left a path of destruction in his wake. Very sloppy.

And the judge should probably have his hands slapped for making Ackard's jail release for contempt contingent upon signing Buffett's agreement. That's close to extorsion.

Even if illegal and legal are black-and-white, in the gray middle people draw their line at different places along the continuum of ethics and integrity. Also, a lot of folks figure something is wrong only if they get caught...be it violating others' trademarks, or using legal power to limit competition.

If Jimmy's proud of how this was handled on his behalf, looking like a French druggie wasn't so bad.
"Reading departure signs in some big airport reminds me of the places I've been"

50 countries and territories, 46 states...so far
LIPH
Last Man Standing
Posts: 67442
Joined: April 24, 2001 8:00 pm
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: my next beer, as long as it's not Blandshark

Post by LIPH »

After clicking the link, I saw this right at the end of the post -
Believe me, if the right attorney would step forward to handle this case for its publicity factor alone, we would be loaded for bear. But lawyers don't work for free, ...
That last sentence that I bolded isn't true.
what I really mean . . . I wish you were here
Quiet and Shy
On a Salty Piece of Land
Posts: 10648
Joined: September 22, 2004 12:16 am
Number of Concerts: 15
Location: Centennial, CO

Post by Quiet and Shy »

LIPH wrote:After clicking the link, I saw this right at the end of the post -
Believe me, if the right attorney would step forward to handle this case for its publicity factor alone, we would be loaded for bear. But lawyers don't work for free, ...
That last sentence that I bolded isn't true.
Are you volunteering?? :o :wink:
"Reading departure signs in some big airport reminds me of the places I've been"

50 countries and territories, 46 states...so far
LIPH
Last Man Standing
Posts: 67442
Joined: April 24, 2001 8:00 pm
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: my next beer, as long as it's not Blandshark

Post by LIPH »

I'm not admitted to the bar in Texas.
what I really mean . . . I wish you were here
springparrot
Last Man Standing
Posts: 172773
Joined: April 28, 2001 8:00 pm
Favorite Buffett Song: what time of day is it????
Number of Concerts: 30
Favorite Boat Drink: Mudslide, Strawberry Margarita
Location: Don't Mess With TEXAS

Post by springparrot »

LIPH wrote:I'm not admitted to the bar in Texas.
You could be :lol:
Don't you JUST have the pass the TX exam? :wink:
ToplessRideFL
Changing Channels
Posts: 17798
Joined: January 9, 2005 9:34 am
Number of Concerts: 0
Location: Phlocking with BN'rs in Tampa Bay!
Contact:

Post by ToplessRideFL »

springparrot wrote:
LIPH wrote:I'm not admitted to the bar in Texas.
You could be :lol:
Don't you JUST have the pass the TX exam? :wink:

SPEW.... yeah Larry...come on...just take a test man.... :wink:
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER OF BN FEUD VII
LIPH
Last Man Standing
Posts: 67442
Joined: April 24, 2001 8:00 pm
Number of Concerts: 0
Favorite Boat Drink: my next beer, as long as it's not Blandshark

Post by LIPH »

I took one bar exam twice and I'll never take another one. :o If a state doesn't have reciprocity with NY, the only bar I'll ever be admited to is one with a liquor license.
what I really mean . . . I wish you were here
Quiet and Shy
On a Salty Piece of Land
Posts: 10648
Joined: September 22, 2004 12:16 am
Number of Concerts: 15
Location: Centennial, CO

Post by Quiet and Shy »

LIPH wrote:I'm not admitted to the bar in Texas.
A mere technicality.... :)
"Reading departure signs in some big airport reminds me of the places I've been"

50 countries and territories, 46 states...so far
TropicalTroubador
Hoot!
Posts: 2746
Joined: July 28, 2003 8:47 pm
Number of Concerts: 10
Favorite Boat Drink: The one in front of me.
Location: By the San Francisco Bay, CA
Contact:

Post by TropicalTroubador »

LIPH wrote:I'm not admitted to the bar in Texas.
That's okay; I hear that TX has drive-up liquor stores. :)

And I thought there was more than one bar in TX anyway. Just go down the street. :)

Loren,
who can't ignore a straight line like that
Living my life on Island Standard Time...
Island Standard Time - the new Trop Rock album from Loren Davidson - now available!

http://www.lorendavidson.com
WMN2BLM
I need two more boat drinks
Posts: 260
Joined: January 25, 2005 9:31 pm
Number of Concerts: 0
Location: making my deposit in the Bank of Bad Habits

Post by WMN2BLM »

I'm with Larry - reciprocity or bust! I have rarely been known to pass bya bar myself.

And it's true - some lawyers do work for free - though it is not always intentional!

I haven't followed the details of this closely, but I do know from my days of attendance at a law school that specialized in Intellectual Property that other individuals and companies, as big or bigger than Buffett, have done similar things over smaller intellectual property infractions.

This just happens to be the story we are all paying attention to because it involves Jimmy...think what you will of him but just know he doesn't hold the "trademark" on the perceived David and Goliath lawsuits.
~~Good for the Body, Good for the Soul~~
Post Reply