Baseball Hall of Fame

TommyBahama · Post by **TommyBahama** » December 10, 2006 8:29 pm

CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!!
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
Guess I'll be here for a few more minutes. Commish asked me to print some extra copies of the rosters for the meeting.

Jerry...for next year, I get to keep 5 of the following (we have a $260 salary cap):

Justin Verlander $7
Huston Street $10
Joel Zumaya $6
Jeremy Sowers $4
Craig Hansen $3
Brandon Inge $3
Mark DeRosa $2
Gary Matthews, Jr. $2
Nick Swisher $13
Raul Ibanez $20
Vicente Padilla $1
Yuniesky Betancourt $3

I'm leaning towards Verlander, Street, Zumaya, Sowers, and Matthews.
What do you think?

I like Inge over Matthews!!....Ibanez and Swisher could be keeps...put very pricy!!

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 10, 2006 11:02 pm

TommyBahama wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!!
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
Guess I'll be here for a few more minutes. Commish asked me to print some extra copies of the rosters for the meeting.

Jerry...for next year, I get to keep 5 of the following (we have a $260 salary cap):

Justin Verlander $7
Huston Street $10
Joel Zumaya $6
Jeremy Sowers $4
Craig Hansen $3
Brandon Inge $3
Mark DeRosa $2
Gary Matthews, Jr. $2
Nick Swisher $13
Raul Ibanez $20
Vicente Padilla $1
Yuniesky Betancourt $3

I'm leaning towards Verlander, Street, Zumaya, Sowers, and Matthews.
What do you think?
I like Inge over Matthews!!....Ibanez and Swisher could be keeps...put very pricy!!

Surprisingly in our dispersment draft today, the only one that I lost was Padilla. And I got a cheap Matt Garza in exchange. So I don't have to make any decisions yet.

drmutt · Post by **drmutt** » December 11, 2006 2:06 am

With the Babe, it was probably less anti-Yankee sentiment than just some writer who decided to vote no so he'd be known as the lone "no" ballot. Who was the writer who voted no anyway? I mean if players were Greek gods, the Babe would be Zeus. Stats aside, he achieved an almost mythical status that few players in any sport achieve. Maybe Michael Jordan in basketball...

drmutt · Post by **drmutt** » December 11, 2006 2:06 am

oops enetered the message more than once

drmutt · Post by **drmutt** » December 11, 2006 2:06 am

too much scotch

Nole Pirate · Post by **Nole Pirate** » December 11, 2006 3:15 pm

Harold Baines 0
• Albert Belle 0
• Dante Bichette 0
• Bert Blyleven 9 (0)
• Bobby Bonilla 0
• Scott Brosius 0
• Jay Buhner 0
• Ken Caminiti 0
• Jose Canseco 0
• Dave Concepcion 4 (0)
• Eric Davis 3 (0)
• Andre Dawson 9 (0)
• Tony Fernandez 0
• Steve Garvey 0
• Rich Gossage 28 (0)
• Tony Gwynn 67 (3) 4
• Orel Hershiser 1
• Tommy John 1
• Wally Joyner 0
• Don Mattingly 5
• Mark McGwire 12 (0) 2
• Jack Morris 0
• Dale Murphy 2 3
• Paul O'Neill 1
• Dave Parker 3
• Jim Rice 14
• Cal Ripken Jr. 82 (15) 5
• Bret Saberhagen 0 1
• Lee Smith 4
• Alan Trammell 4
• Devon White 0
• Bobby Witt 0

chippewa · Post by **chippewa** » January 9, 2007 2:04 pm

The Official HOF Class of 2007:

Cal Ripken
Tony Gwynn

that's it

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 9, 2007 2:05 pm

chippewa wrote:The Official HOF Class of 2007:

Cal Ripken
Tony Gwinn

that's it

fair enough. that is not a bad class.

chippewa · Post by **chippewa** » January 9, 2007 2:07 pm

Gossage 21 votes shy (71%, need 75%), McGwire had just 23% of the vote.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » January 9, 2007 2:15 pm

How is Gossage not in the Hall of Fame? That's just ridiculous.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 9, 2007 2:19 pm

LIPH wrote:How is Gossage not in the Hall of Fame? That's just ridiculous.

he should have slept with a few more voters?

Big Red Parrothead · Post by **Big Red Parrothead** » January 9, 2007 2:47 pm

I'm sure the big story tonight will be McGwire not getting in, but here is the bigger issue: of the 545 HOF voters, who are the 8 idiots who didn't vote for Cal Ripken? Or the 13 who didn't vote for Tony Gwynn?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » January 9, 2007 2:55 pm

Big Red Parrothead wrote:I'm sure the big story tonight will be McGwire not getting in, but here is the bigger issue: of the 545 HOF voters, who are the 8 idiots who didn't vote for Cal Ripken? Or the 13 who didn't vote for Tony Gwynn?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Some writers feel that because Cy Young and Joe DiMaggio didn't get in on the first ballot (DiMaggio didn't get in until the 3rd ballot) no one should be a unanimous choice so they don't vote for first timers.

The bigger issue is the players who DID receive votes:

Paul O'Neill 12
Bret Saberhagen 7
Tony Fernandez 4
Dante Bichette 3
Eric Davis 3
Bobby Bonilla 2
Ken Caminiti 2
Jay Buhner 1

chippewa · Post by **chippewa** » January 9, 2007 3:02 pm

BottleofRum wrote:
Big Red Parrothead wrote:I'm sure the big story tonight will be McGwire not getting in, but here is the bigger issue: of the 545 HOF voters, who are the 8 idiots who didn't vote for Cal Ripken? Or the 13 who didn't vote for Tony Gwynn?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Some writers feel that because Cy Young and Joe DiMaggio didn't get in on the first ballot (DiMaggio didn't get in until the 3rd ballot) no one should be a unanimous choice so they don't vote for first timers.

The bigger issue is the players who DID receive votes:

Paul O'Neill 12
Bret Saberhagen 7
Tony Fernandez 4
Dante Bichette 3
Eric Davis 3
Bobby Bonilla 2
Ken Caminiti 2
Jay Buhner 1

And two writers left their ballots completely blank. Something about too many questions in the steroid era.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » January 9, 2007 3:09 pm

LIPH wrote:How is Gossage not in the Hall of Fame? That's just ridiculous.

That IS ridiculous. He should've been in YEARS ago.
As should've Andre Dawson.
As should've Lee Smith.
As should've RON SANTO!!!

The B.B.W.A.A. (BIAS-ed ball writers association of America) are VERY anti-Cub, and it shows.

But the BIGGEST joke of all for THIS year is Cal Ripken Jr. getting voted in with ONLY 98.5% of the vote.
That means someone DIDN'T vote for him.
Now THAT'S ridiculous. How in the world could anyone NOT vote for him.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 9, 2007 3:27 pm

chippewa wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
Big Red Parrothead wrote:I'm sure the big story tonight will be McGwire not getting in, but here is the bigger issue: of the 545 HOF voters, who are the 8 idiots who didn't vote for Cal Ripken? Or the 13 who didn't vote for Tony Gwynn?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Some writers feel that because Cy Young and Joe DiMaggio didn't get in on the first ballot (DiMaggio didn't get in until the 3rd ballot) no one should be a unanimous choice so they don't vote for first timers.

The bigger issue is the players who DID receive votes:

Paul O'Neill 12
Bret Saberhagen 7
Tony Fernandez 4
Dante Bichette 3
Eric Davis 3
Bobby Bonilla 2
Ken Caminiti 2
Jay Buhner 1
And two writers left their ballots completely blank. Something about too many questions in the steroid era.

while I will agree with them, votes against either Ripken or Gwynn who have never had the hint of the slightest smudge on their records for 'roids by not voting at all seems a little extreme.