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CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:also I think that if a player starts for the most part of 12 or 15 years
no matter what his numbers are he goes in..


Such as Royce Clayton? (Picked as an example at random)

He's been a starter for 15+ years now.
Career numbers include 109 HRs, a .258 BA, and 229 steals.
He has also never won a gold glove, and has only been an all-star ONCE.
Never been on a team that made the World Series, only on 3 playoff teams.



Sorry, Wayne. It doesn't work.
oh I have been told that more than once.. :lol: :D

wasn't Royce on the Giants in 89??
Nope. He broke in back in 1991, became a starter mid-way through 1992.

:D I spent a lot of time in the bleachers back then
but.. I have killed off a few brain cells too, :D :D
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ragtopW wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:also I think that if a player starts for the most part of 12 or 15 years
no matter what his numbers are he goes in..


Such as Royce Clayton? (Picked as an example at random)

He's been a starter for 15+ years now.
Career numbers include 109 HRs, a .258 BA, and 229 steals.
He has also never won a gold glove, and has only been an all-star ONCE.
Never been on a team that made the World Series, only on 3 playoff teams.



Sorry, Wayne. It doesn't work.
oh I have been told that more than once.. :lol: :D

wasn't Royce on the Giants in 89??
Nope. He broke in back in 1991, became a starter mid-way through 1992.

:D I spent a lot of time in the bleachers back then
but.. I have killed off a few brain cells too, :D :D
Implying that you had them to begin with??? :wink:
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job41475 wrote:
chippewa wrote:The Hall should be all "no-brainer's". If a guy's on the fence, then I say no. Baseball, for the most part, is a tough hall to get into, unlike some other sports.
I agree. My Donnie baseball push was biased and was based in pure unadulterated plutonic man love of the guy....
And I love Alan Trammell, but I can't say he's a Hall of Famer. :(
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chippewa wrote:
job41475 wrote:
chippewa wrote:The Hall should be all "no-brainer's". If a guy's on the fence, then I say no. Baseball, for the most part, is a tough hall to get into, unlike some other sports.
I agree. My Donnie baseball push was biased and was based in pure unadulterated plutonic man love of the guy....
And I love Alan Trammell, but I can't say he's a Hall of Famer. :(
And I love Pete Incaviglia.....oh, never mind.
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Awesome! I just noticed that http://www.baseball-reference.com has updated and now has box scores of every game going back to 1957!!!
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CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
ragtopW wrote:also I think that if a player starts for the most part of 12 or 15 years
no matter what his numbers are he goes in..


Such as Royce Clayton? (Picked as an example at random)

He's been a starter for 15+ years now.
Career numbers include 109 HRs, a .258 BA, and 229 steals.
He has also never won a gold glove, and has only been an all-star ONCE.
Never been on a team that made the World Series, only on 3 playoff teams.



Sorry, Wayne. It doesn't work.
oh I have been told that more than once.. :lol: :D

wasn't Royce on the Giants in 89??
Nope. He broke in back in 1991, became a starter mid-way through 1992.

:D I spent a lot of time in the bleachers back then
but.. I have killed off a few brain cells too, :D :D
Implying that you had them to begin with??? :wink:

:P :P
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And a baseball geek like me is going to love this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi.shtml
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CaptainP wrote:And a baseball geek like me is going to love this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi.shtml
Wow, that is going to be AWESOME!!!!
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job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:And a baseball geek like me is going to love this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi.shtml
Wow, that is going to be AWESOME!!!!
I may never leave my computer again....
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I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!! :cry:
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!
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CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!! :cry:
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
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job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!! :cry:
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
Guess I'll be here for a few more minutes. Commish asked me to print some extra copies of the rosters for the meeting.

Jerry...for next year, I get to keep 5 of the following (we have a $260 salary cap):

Justin Verlander $7
Huston Street $10
Joel Zumaya $6
Jeremy Sowers $4
Craig Hansen $3
Brandon Inge $3
Mark DeRosa $2
Gary Matthews, Jr. $2
Nick Swisher $13
Raul Ibanez $20
Vicente Padilla $1
Yuniesky Betancourt $3

I'm leaning towards Verlander, Street, Zumaya, Sowers, and Matthews.
What do you think?
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CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!! :cry:
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
Guess I'll be here for a few more minutes. Commish asked me to print some extra copies of the rosters for the meeting.

Jerry...for next year, I get to keep 5 of the following (we have a $260 salary cap):

Justin Verlander $7
Huston Street $10
Joel Zumaya $6
Jeremy Sowers $4
Craig Hansen $3
Brandon Inge $3
Mark DeRosa $2
Gary Matthews, Jr. $2
Nick Swisher $13
Raul Ibanez $20
Vicente Padilla $1
Yuniesky Betancourt $3

I'm leaning towards Verlander, Street, Zumaya, Sowers, and Matthews.
What do you think?
Is there a percentage value raise each year? many leagues are like that as you know or is this their value for 2007?

Either way though I think the 5 you said are the best choices....
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job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!! :cry:
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
Guess I'll be here for a few more minutes. Commish asked me to print some extra copies of the rosters for the meeting.

Jerry...for next year, I get to keep 5 of the following (we have a $260 salary cap):

Justin Verlander $7
Huston Street $10
Joel Zumaya $6
Jeremy Sowers $4
Craig Hansen $3
Brandon Inge $3
Mark DeRosa $2
Gary Matthews, Jr. $2
Nick Swisher $13
Raul Ibanez $20
Vicente Padilla $1
Yuniesky Betancourt $3

I'm leaning towards Verlander, Street, Zumaya, Sowers, and Matthews.
What do you think?
Is there a percentage value raise each year? many leagues are like that as you know or is this their value for 2007?

Either way though I think the 5 you said are the best choices....
Those are next year's values. They don't go up between years 1 & 2. If you keep him a 3rd year, it goes up $5. No contract is longer than 3 years.
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CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!! :cry:
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
Guess I'll be here for a few more minutes. Commish asked me to print some extra copies of the rosters for the meeting.

Jerry...for next year, I get to keep 5 of the following (we have a $260 salary cap):

Justin Verlander $7
Huston Street $10
Joel Zumaya $6
Jeremy Sowers $4
Craig Hansen $3
Brandon Inge $3
Mark DeRosa $2
Gary Matthews, Jr. $2
Nick Swisher $13
Raul Ibanez $20
Vicente Padilla $1
Yuniesky Betancourt $3

I'm leaning towards Verlander, Street, Zumaya, Sowers, and Matthews.
What do you think?
Is there a percentage value raise each year? many leagues are like that as you know or is this their value for 2007?

Either way though I think the 5 you said are the best choices....
Those are next year's values. They don't go up between years 1 & 2. If you keep him a 3rd year, it goes up $5. No contract is longer than 3 years.
Yeah when Zumaya closes then he's goign to be tremendous....

My 5 x 5 sportsline league has 7 keepers and my likely guys are:

Howard
Berkman
Dunn
Guillen, C
Glaus
Damon
Wang
Willis
Harang
Bonser
Pettitte
Rivera
Wagner
Hill, R

I have a few others too that could be keepers on sme teams but can't even crack thsi list fo maybes. Some like Howard, Berkman, et.c are obvious plus i may do soem trades but this team is great and I'd hate to lose anyone...
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job41475 wrote:
My 5 x 5 sportsline league has 7 keepers and my likely guys are:

Howard
Berkman
Dunn
Guillen, C
Glaus
Damon
Wang
Willis
Harang
Bonser
Pettitte
Rivera
Wagner
Hill, R

I have a few others too that could be keepers on sme teams but can't even crack thsi list fo maybes. Some like Howard, Berkman, et.c are obvious plus i may do soem trades but this team is great and I'd hate to lose anyone...
Howard, Berkman, Wang, Rivera, Pettitte, Willis, Harang
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CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
My 5 x 5 sportsline league has 7 keepers and my likely guys are:

Howard
Berkman
Dunn
Guillen, C
Glaus
Damon
Wang
Willis
Harang
Bonser
Pettitte
Rivera
Wagner
Hill, R

I have a few others too that could be keepers on sme teams but can't even crack thsi list fo maybes. Some like Howard, Berkman, et.c are obvious plus i may do soem trades but this team is great and I'd hate to lose anyone...
Howard, Berkman, Wang, Rivera, Pettitte, Willis, Harang
Yeah I was thinking along those lines but I'm hoping to trade to get some picks back. In my league you can trade draft picks for players so since I decided I was going for it all last eyar I don't have any picks until 7th round. Anything less than the title would've made it a bad choice but it worked....
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Post by Lightning Bolt »

uh yeah, right...


back on topic,
Canseco went 40/40 but wasn't he, self-admittedly, juiced then?

30/30 used to be held as the gold standard pre-1990, but
I don't see Bobby Bonds anywhere in Cooperstown

It's the HOF for a distinguished CAREER, not a just couple "great" years.
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Lightning Bolt wrote:uh yeah, right...


back on topic,
Canseco went 40/40 but wasn't he, self-admittedly, juiced then?

30/30 used to be held as the gold standard pre-1990, but
I don't see Bobby Bonds anywhere in Cooperstown

It's the HOF for a distinguished CAREER, not a just couple "great" years.
lol yeah captain and I skidded a little off topic but not too bad....
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job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:I'm outta here for a while, gang. Off to my Roto Baseball League's post-season awards banquet. This year I won.....NOTHING!!!!! :cry:
Second time I've ever missed finishing in the money.

But I have the best keepers for next year!

Nice I am looking at my Trophy that I got for winning my Crazy Sportsline league. Ryan Howard si teh reason I won...
Is that CBS Sportsline?

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