Andy's back

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » December 8, 2006 6:24 pm

i wish my batting average was .325 at work (meaning I get it right 1/3 of the time) and they paid me 16 million.. sheesh..

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » December 8, 2006 8:41 pm

SharkOnLand wrote:
job41475 wrote:Pettitte was 14-13 with a 4.20 ERA in 35 starts for the Astros last season.
Yeah, those stats are worth 16 mil...

hey it's not coming out of my pockets. I'm just glad we got a pitcher and am glad it's somebody who has had success in NY...

TommyBahama · Post by **TommyBahama** » December 8, 2006 8:49 pm

job41475 wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote:
job41475 wrote:Pettitte was 14-13 with a 4.20 ERA in 35 starts for the Astros last season.
Yeah, those stats are worth 16 mil...
hey it's not coming out of my pockets. I'm just glad we got a pitcher and am glad it's somebody who has had success in NY...

Didnt the Yankee's just raise ticket prices by about 30%......if your going to games...it's coming out of your pocket!!!

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » December 8, 2006 9:03 pm

TommyBahama wrote:
job41475 wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote:
job41475 wrote:Pettitte was 14-13 with a 4.20 ERA in 35 starts for the Astros last season.
Yeah, those stats are worth 16 mil...
hey it's not coming out of my pockets. I'm just glad we got a pitcher and am glad it's somebody who has had success in NY...
Didnt the Yankee's just raise ticket prices by about 30%......if your going to games...it's coming out of your pocket!!!

Actually my 2007 Ticket Plan cost me exactly as much as I paid in 2006 and I get an extra game so it's a better deal.

springparrot · Post by **springparrot** » December 8, 2006 11:21 pm

Ya'll enjoy him---Houston Astro fan are going to miss him

Papa T · Post by **Papa T** » December 9, 2006 4:04 am

I'm just glad to see him out of Houston. Now I don't want to see Clemens back. I'm a Reds fan. We already have to deal with St. Louis and it looks more like the Cubs will be trouble too now. I WANT TO SEE THE REDS IN PLAYOFFS! It's been way too long.

Tropic_Al · Post by **Tropic_Al** » December 9, 2006 6:48 am

PIA wrote:will clemens follow or did he retire?

He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » December 9, 2006 8:13 am

Tropic_Al wrote:
PIA wrote:will clemens follow or did he retire?
He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.

or until he starts wanting attention again. Moron should talk with Micheal Jordan about how well coming out of retirement works.

His retirement is starting to look like Cher's 5 year Farewell Concert Tour.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 9, 2006 8:18 am

RinglingRingling wrote:
Tropic_Al wrote:
PIA wrote:will clemens follow or did he retire?
He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.
or until he starts wanting attention again. Moron should talk with Micheal Jordan about how well coming out of retirement works.

His retirement is starting to look like Cher's 5 year Farewell Concert Tour.

The only time he ever said, "I'm retired" was a ploy to escape from New York. He's never said he was retiring in Houston.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » December 9, 2006 9:06 am

CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Tropic_Al wrote:
PIA wrote:will clemens follow or did he retire?
He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.
or until he starts wanting attention again. Moron should talk with Micheal Jordan about how well coming out of retirement works.

His retirement is starting to look like Cher's 5 year Farewell Concert Tour.
The only time he ever said, "I'm retired" was a ploy to escape from New York. He's never said he was retiring in Houston.

perhaps, but his best days are behind him. He's just a high-priced bear being trotted out in front of the rubes.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 9, 2006 9:12 am

RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Tropic_Al wrote:
PIA wrote:will clemens follow or did he retire?
He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.
or until he starts wanting attention again. Moron should talk with Micheal Jordan about how well coming out of retirement works.

His retirement is starting to look like Cher's 5 year Farewell Concert Tour.
The only time he ever said, "I'm retired" was a ploy to escape from New York. He's never said he was retiring in Houston.
perhaps, but his best days are behind him. He's just a high-priced bear being trotted out in front of the rubes.

His BEST days might be behind them, but his best were as good as nearly anyone has ever seen....I'd still take his 2.30 ERA and 1.041 WHIP and 8 K/9 and killer competitive attitude over 95% of the pitchers out there.

By the way, he's 38-18 since he "retired" from the Yankmees.

ToplessRideFL · Post by **ToplessRideFL** » December 9, 2006 9:13 am

Where is FlipFlopGirl.... ???

Oh wait... she is walking on air with this news....

flipflopgirl · Post by **flipflopgirl** » December 9, 2006 9:20 am

ToplessRideFL wrote:Where is FlipFlopGirl.... ???

Oh wait... she is walking on air with this news....

WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Welcome back Andy!!!!!!!!

I am not sure that Clemens will follow! I don't know that the Yanks will give him his countryclub schedule that Houston gave him!!!!!!

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » December 9, 2006 9:34 am

CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Tropic_Al wrote:
PIA wrote:will clemens follow or did he retire?
He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.
or until he starts wanting attention again. Moron should talk with Micheal Jordan about how well coming out of retirement works.

His retirement is starting to look like Cher's 5 year Farewell Concert Tour.
The only time he ever said, "I'm retired" was a ploy to escape from New York. He's never said he was retiring in Houston.
perhaps, but his best days are behind him. He's just a high-priced bear being trotted out in front of the rubes.
His BEST days might be behind them, but his best were as good as nearly anyone has ever seen....I'd still take his 2.30 ERA and 1.041 WHIP and 8 K/9 and killer competitive attitude over 95% of the pitchers out there.

By the way, he's 38-18 since he "retired" from the Yankmees.

which was when? 3 seasons or so? that means he's pitched about 18 games a season (on average), out of 162... not exactly Iron Lou country.

I am not arguing that his stats lifetime are good; I am just tired of hearing about him in the off-season sport of "will he/won' he be back?".

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 9, 2006 9:47 am

RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Tropic_Al wrote: He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.
or until he starts wanting attention again. Moron should talk with Micheal Jordan about how well coming out of retirement works.

His retirement is starting to look like Cher's 5 year Farewell Concert Tour.
The only time he ever said, "I'm retired" was a ploy to escape from New York. He's never said he was retiring in Houston.
perhaps, but his best days are behind him. He's just a high-priced bear being trotted out in front of the rubes.
His BEST days might be behind them, but his best were as good as nearly anyone has ever seen....I'd still take his 2.30 ERA and 1.041 WHIP and 8 K/9 and killer competitive attitude over 95% of the pitchers out there.

By the way, he's 38-18 since he "retired" from the Yankmees.
which was when? 3 seasons or so? that means he's pitched about 18 games a season (on average), out of 162... not exactly Iron Lou country.

I am not arguing that his stats lifetime are good; I am just tired of hearing about him in the off-season sport of "will he/won' he be back?".

Actually, he's averaged 28 starts per season for the Astros. Lots of no-decisions. A full season for a starting pitcher is 35 starts, he's had 33, 32, and 19 (in a season he didn't sign until the end of May.) He's missed very few starts.

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » December 9, 2006 9:51 am

CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Tropic_Al wrote:
PIA wrote:will clemens follow or did he retire?
He's retired, until someone throws some big money at him.
or until he starts wanting attention again. Moron should talk with Micheal Jordan about how well coming out of retirement works.

His retirement is starting to look like Cher's 5 year Farewell Concert Tour.
The only time he ever said, "I'm retired" was a ploy to escape from New York. He's never said he was retiring in Houston.

It tottaly doesn't matter now for many reasons but I honestly think that when Clemens "Retired" the first time it wasn't a ploy. He was content on leaving the game but then when his best friend signed to play in his backyard and they were willign to work a deal with Rocket, he chanegd his mind. Now I think he has seen he is still a very effective pitcher and that he didn't want to retire even though he may have thought he did.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 9, 2006 9:55 am

job41475 wrote:
It tottaly doesn't matter now for many reasons but I honestly think that when Clemens "Retired" the first time it wasn't a ploy.

But then again, you may just be defending the Yankees....

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » December 9, 2006 10:00 am

CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
It tottaly doesn't matter now for many reasons but I honestly think that when Clemens "Retired" the first time it wasn't a ploy.
But then again, you may just be defending the Yankees....

and just as likely you just might be slandering them.

Maybe with some Revisionist history. If you recall it was the astros pursuing Clemens as he was sitting home in Houston retired the first time. hey if Rocket wants to come back again and it's the Yanks then great. If not then oh well.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 9, 2006 10:00 am

job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
It tottaly doesn't matter now for many reasons but I honestly think that when Clemens "Retired" the first time it wasn't a ploy.
But then again, you may just be defending the Yankees....
and just as likely you just might be slandering them. Maybe with some Revisionist history. If you recall it was the astros pursuing Clemens as he was sitting home in Houston retired the first time. hey if Rocket wants to come back again and it's the Yanks then great. If not then oh well.

Touche.

(Actually, I'm not one of those...I just like taking up a contrary point of view in any discussion. It can be FUN!)

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » December 9, 2006 10:23 am

CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
job41475 wrote:
It tottaly doesn't matter now for many reasons but I honestly think that when Clemens "Retired" the first time it wasn't a ploy.
But then again, you may just be defending the Yankees....
and just as likely you just might be slandering them. Maybe with some Revisionist history. If you recall it was the astros pursuing Clemens as he was sitting home in Houston retired the first time. hey if Rocket wants to come back again and it's the Yanks then great. If not then oh well.
Touche.

(Actually, I'm not one of those...I just like taking up a contrary point of view in any discussion. It can be FUN!)

Oh absolutly teammate! I agree!

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