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I know it says in the Parrothead Handbook but I don't know where it is. There are a lot of people who go to Pirate's Cove in Josephine, AL that say CIP was written THERE. They insist it was inspired from eating a cheeseburger (maybe it was a hamburger with MUSTARD with cheese) there.

It's pretty funny. I'm not really sure why they think that. No one has been able to tell me anything about why people think that when Jimmy has said time and time again that he was, oh time and time again I can't remember psohoiotp, in the Bahamas somewhere.

JustDucky wrote:I know it says in the Parrothead Handbook but I don't know where it is. There are a lot of people who go to Pirate's Cove in Josephine, AL that say CIP was written THERE. They insist it was inspired from eating a cheeseburger (maybe it was a hamburger with MUSTARD with cheese) there.

It's pretty funny. I'm not really sure why they think that. No one has been able to tell me anything about why people think that when Jimmy has said time and time again that he was, oh time and time again I can't remember psohoiotp, in the Bahamas somewhere.

Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands

I can personally name at least 15 places that CLAIM to be the inspiration.
I don't believe that there is one particular place....it's just another story that he loves to tell.

When I worked for CIP, the story they used is the one about the water tower bar...but Jimmy himself has said that one isn't true. It just fit the design of the buildings...

The cheeseburgers the song was written about were not even good. Didn't they read the box set booklet?

No restaurant should want to claim they were the inspiration!

I always enjoy reading that story.

Anyone been to all those places?

Me: 3 --Margaritaville Key West, Mobile Dew Drop, Camelia Grill New Orleans

Actually you ride the streetcar (did anyway, it won't be running up St Charles for a long time) up St Charles. Up being up river.

Camellia Grill is closed and has been for a long time. No word on when it will open last I knew or even if it will open ever again.

conched wrote:I always enjoy reading that story.

Anyone been to all those places?

No, but I've been to a couple of them.

Just as JB said, I think we all have a place or two that our "burger lust" was formulated.
I'm lucky that mine is still in business, and I've been able to share it with my son.

Bwana Paul,
Where did you find those stories about "Cheesburger"?
John

J.LeP wrote:Bwana Paul,
Where did you find those stories about "Cheesburger"?
John

It is from pages 26 and 27 of "The Parrothead Handbook"; the notes that come with the 'Boats, Beaches, Bars & Ballads' Box set

z-man wrote:

J.LeP wrote:Bwana Paul,
Where did you find those stories about "Cheesburger"?
John

It is from pages 26 and 27 of "The Parrothead Handbook"; the notes that come with the 'Boats, Beaches, Bars & Ballads' Box set

Thanks, I don't own the"BBBB" box.
John

Dezdmona wrote:

conched wrote:I always enjoy reading that story.

Anyone been to all those places?

No, but I've been to a couple of them.

Just as JB said, I think we all have a place or two that our "burger lust" was formulated.
I'm lucky that mine is still in business, and I've been able to share it with my son.

So true, DEZ! Still one little independent place here in town that is always special to me.

This thread about Le Select is a good one at stbartstalk.com

http://www.stbartstalk.com/forum_posts. ... =1508&PN=2

just ducky, I was in New Orleans a few months back and drove by Camelia Grill and toward the French Quarter down St Charles. We drove in on Carrolton. Still so painful to see.

They seemed to be digging out where the rails for the streetcar were. Hope it does run again soon.

Did you see all the sticky notes all over Camellia Grill? For a while there were pictures of it in the newspaper and even on WWL. I go by it a lot but I've stopped looking at it.

The streetcar tracks are somewhat buried but that's not really the problem. They were going to start revamping the electric lines as it was, which would have taken a while, but Katrina changed that.

I think they're talking sometime next year, in the fall, when the entire line up to Claiborne Ave will be running again.

The place is now known as Village Cay Marina in Road Town. It is near the cruise ship docks. Food is still good and prepared by ladies in an outdoor kitchen. Also try the chicken fingers.

JustDucky wrote: (maybe it was a hamburger with MUSTARD with cheese)

No mustard was involved...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/lif ... 42519.html

Bwana Paul wrote:The myth of the cheeseburger in paradise goes back to a long trip on my first boat, the Euphoria. We had run into some very rough weather crossing the Mona Passage between Hispaniola and Puerto Rico and broke our bow sprit. The ice in our box had melted, and we were doing the canned-food-and-peanut-butter diet. The vision of a piping hot cheeseburger kept popping into my mind. We limped up the Sir Francis Drake Channel and into Roadtown on the island of Tortola, where a brand-new marina and bar sat on the end of the dock, like a mirage. We secured the boat, kissed the ground, and headed for the restaurant. To our amazement, we were offered a menu that featured an American cheeseburger and pina coladas. Now these were the the days when supplies in that part of the world were rather scarce-when horsemeat was more plentiful than ground beef in the tiny stores of the Third World. Anyway, we gave particular instructions to the waiter on how we wanted them cooked and what we wanted on them-to which little attention was paid. It didn't matter. The overdone burgers on the burned, toasted buns tasted like manna from heaven, for they were the realization of my fantasy burgers on the trip. That's the true story. I've heard other people and places claim that I stopped or cooked in their restaurants, but this is the way it happened. I love to eat and have taken advantage of my success to travel and discover the foods of the world. There are elegant restaurants and out-of-the-way seafood joints and tiny Thai hamlets that spring into my mind when people ask where I like to eat, but that is another book. I don't eat much meat as I once did, and I now treat a cheeseburger as a treat rather than a ration. So when the urge hits me to have a burger, I try to match my desire to splurge with the right town and the right burger. I'm sure you know a place in your hometown where you believe they make the best cheeseburger in the world. These are the places I have visited personally when I was trying to come up with the perfect cheeseburger for Margaritaville in Key west. These are my cheeseburger roots.

THE DEW DROP INN - Mobile, Alabama
This is where I grew up and my burger lust was formulated. The Dew Drop is still on the corner of Old Shell Road and Louiselle Street. The chili cheeseburger with the bun flattened on an industrial toaster is killer. This is also where the Heinz 57 came in. In my day, they cost 35 cents. Today they run $1.65 + tax. Still a bargain.

CAMELIA GRILL - New Orleans,Louisiana
I worked my way through college by commuting between school in Hattiesburg, Mississippi and Bourbon Street where I must say I learned more of what would serve me later in life than I did in my Algebra II classes. A girl I dated who went to Dominican College first took me to the Camelia Grill. We rode the streetcar down St. Charles Avenue past the stately mansions of the Garden District to the Camelia Grill. The girl has long since left my life, but for me, a trip to the Camelia Grill is much a pilgrimage as a trip to the St. Louis Cathedral. Besides, the chocolate pie is unbelievable.

ROTIER'S - Nashville, Tennessee
I moved to Nashville from Alabama, and on my struggling songwriter budget I found the burger I needed to survive. It was a little place on Elliston Place between Centennial Park and Vanderbilt called Roiter's. I am now back in Nashville part time, and the first place I went was to Roiter's for a cheeseburger. It is still as good as I remember from my "hard luck days".

HERBERT'S MARKET - Palm Beach, Florida
I used to spend a lot of time in Palm Beach visiting friends and was turned on to this burger, made in the meat section of the store. It's that warm butter-toasted bun and fresh ground meat that I took note of when I started to build my burger.

ORIGINAL FATBURGER - 450 South La Cienega, Los Angeles
I ate my first Fat Burger after the third show at the Troubadour one morning and have been addicted since. There are lots of new Fat Burgers all over LA, but the original is still the best. It must have something to do with that old grill.

LE SELECT - St.Barthelemy, French West Indies
I sort of watched this burger evolve and actually was the cook the first night the stand opened, flipping burgers for my friend Eddie Skatlborough. I overheard some people at the counter waiting for their burgers, and they said, "How sad. You know he used to be famous, but now he's cooking cheeseburgers."

Ruby's - Harbor Island, Bahamas
Ruby's is a little spot just beyond the cemetery and library on Harbour Island. Her burgers remind me of the ones my grandmother used to make with onions and breadcrumbs in the meat, and then there is that drop-dead Bahama bread they are served on.

SKY WAY DRIVE IN - Akron, Ohio
It seemed fitting that in the hotbed of Parrot Heads in Northeastern Ohio, there had to be a great cheeseburger.

STEAK N SHAKE - Gainesville, Florida
I used to do free concerts in front of the Student Union building at the University of Florida, and I stayed at the Hilton Hotel. The Steak n Shake was halfway between the two, and I made it a pit stop when I was driving back and forth from one end of the state to the other.

MARGARITAVILLE - Key West, Florida
After eating at all the above, I opened my own place and took the best of all of them. We don't get too many complaints on our attempt at the perfect cheeseburger. Maybe it's the location.

eaten them in the places that are bolded... plan is to one day mark them all off the list.

RinglingRingling wrote: STEAK N SHAKE - Gainesville, Florida

eaten them in the places that are bolded... plan is to one day mark them all off the list.

my sincerest sympathies if you ate at a Steak-n-Shake

CapnK wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote: STEAK N SHAKE - Gainesville, Florida

eaten them in the places that are bolded... plan is to one day mark them all off the list.

my sincerest sympathies if you ate at a Steak-n-Shake

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CapnK wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote: STEAK N SHAKE - Gainesville, Florida

eaten them in the places that are bolded... plan is to one day mark them all off the list.

my sincerest sympathies if you ate at a Steak-n-Shake

the ones in the midwest are not that way

RinglingRingling wrote:

CapnK wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote: STEAK N SHAKE - Gainesville, Florida

eaten them in the places that are bolded... plan is to one day mark them all off the list.

my sincerest sympathies if you ate at a Steak-n-Shake

the ones in the midwest are not that way

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