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Posted: November 13, 2007 8:09 pm
by Wino you know
TommyBahama wrote:what about Bench????...and i'll give you a guy i liked...but wasn't great...Steve Yeager i was a huge fan of his for some weird reason!!
Johnny Bench and Yogi Berra were probably the two greatest catchers of all time, but neither one played into their 40's, and Bench spent his last two or three years playing third base.
Fisk may not have been quite the caliber of those two, but there was no catcher in the history of the game with the durability he had.
He could still be playing today if he wanted to. CATCHER, that is, not DH or First Base.

Yeager was a very good catcher as well-he sure helped slam the lid on the Yankees during that six game series between those two teams in 1981.

Posted: November 13, 2007 8:57 pm
by TommyBahama
The Independent Frontier League’s Washington Wild Things, presented by Washington Federal Savings Bank, have offered a contract to Barry Bonds, according to officials.

A move to the Wild Things’ organization would give Bonds the opportunity to return to the market where he started his Major League career. Bonds debuted with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1986, playing seven seasons in Western Pennsylvania prior to signing a contract with the San Francisco Giants in 1993. “Many of the great one’s eventually return to where their careers began,” said Wild Things General Manager Ross Vecchio. “Babe Ruth began his career with the Red Sox and then finished with the Boston Braves; Willie Mays started with the New York Giants and finished his career with the Mets; and, of course, Hank Aaron began and finished his career in Milwaukee (Braves & Brewers). This contract gives Barry the opportunity to play once again in Western, PA as he continues his career.”

It’ll take quite a bit to get Barry to come, dude. You’d need to offer him a bunch of perks.

According to the Wild Things, Bonds’ contract offer includes a base salary as well as a number of incentives. “He will have the opportunity to meet certain bonus levels based on breaking any Frontier League single-season offensive record,” explained Vecchio.

Bonus Level A for hitting 36 Home Runs (record 35 by Morgan Burkhardt in 1998)
Bonus Level A for 101 RBI (record 100 by Pete Pirman in 2005)
Bonus Level A for 86 Base on Balls (record 85 by Burkhardt in 1998)
Bonus Level B for breaking single season record in any of the following categories: batting average, games played, at-bats, runs scored, hits, total bases, doubles, triples, hit by pitch, and/or stolen bases

In addition, Bonds’ contract offer includes other considerations including a single king-sized room when the team is on road; 50% of all net proceeds of individual Barry Bonds/Wild Things merchandise; and The Wild Things will provide Bonds a host family if needed.

Posted: November 14, 2007 7:58 am
by drunkpirate66
TommyBahama wrote:The Independent Frontier League’s Washington Wild Things, presented by Washington Federal Savings Bank, have offered a contract to Barry Bonds, according to officials.

A move to the Wild Things’ organization would give Bonds the opportunity to return to the market where he started his Major League career. Bonds debuted with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1986, playing seven seasons in Western Pennsylvania prior to signing a contract with the San Francisco Giants in 1993. “Many of the great one’s eventually return to where their careers began,” said Wild Things General Manager Ross Vecchio. “Babe Ruth began his career with the Red Sox and then finished with the Boston Braves; Willie Mays started with the New York Giants and finished his career with the Mets; and, of course, Hank Aaron began and finished his career in Milwaukee (Braves & Brewers). This contract gives Barry the opportunity to play once again in Western, PA as he continues his career.”

It’ll take quite a bit to get Barry to come, dude. You’d needto offer him a bunch of perks.

According to the Wild Things, Bonds’ contract offer includes a base salary as well as a number of incentives. “He will have the opportunity to meet certain bonus levels based on breaking any Frontier League single-season offensive record,” explained Vecchio.

Bonus Level A for hitting 36 Home Runs (record 35 by Morgan Burkhardt in 1998)
Bonus Level A for 101 RBI (record 100 by Pete Pirman in 2005)
Bonus Level A for 86 Base on Balls (record 85 by Burkhardt in 1998)
Bonus Level B for breaking single season record in any of the following categories: batting average, games played, at-bats, runs scored, hits, total bases, doubles, triples, hit by pitch, and/or stolen bases

In addition, Bonds’ contract offer includes other considerations including a single king-sized room when the team is on road; 50% of all net proceeds of individual Barry Bonds/Wild Things merchandise; and The Wild Things will provide Bonds a host family if needed.
:o

Posted: November 14, 2007 7:58 am
by drunkpirate66
So the Yankees and the Twins have been talking much as of late. Wonder why? :roll: :wink:

Posted: November 14, 2007 9:20 am
by chippewa
TommyBahama wrote:The Independent Frontier League’s Washington Wild Things, presented by Washington Federal Savings Bank, have offered a contract to Barry Bonds, according to officials...
I think it'll come down to one thing.....what's the pharmacy situation in Washington?

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:03 am
by BottleofRum
2008 Red Sox Schedule
Note, they end the season @ hame against the Yankees. No Cubs @ Red Sox... :(

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... _schedule/

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:08 am
by drunkpirate66
BottleofRum wrote:While not confirmed yet ...the 2008 Red Sox schedule shoudl look like this:

Note, they end the season @ hame against the Yankees. No Cubs @ Red Sox... :(

MARCH
3/25 @ Oakland (Japan)
3/26 @ Oakland (Japan)

APRIL
1-2 @ Oakland
4-6 @ Toronto
8-10 Detroit
11-13 NYY
14-15 @ Cleve
16-17 @ NYY
18-21 Tex
22-24 LAA
25-27 @ Tampa Bay


MAY
1-4 vs Tampa Bay
5-7 @ vs Detroit
9-12 @ Minn
13-14 @ Balt
16-18 vs Milwaukee
26-28 @ Seattle
30-31 @ Balt

JUNE
1-2 @ Balt
3-5 vs Tampa Bay
6-8 vs Seattle
9-11 Balt
13-15 @ Cincinnati
16-18 @ Phil
20-22 vs St. Louis
23-25 vs AZ
27-29 @ Houston
30 @ Tampa Bay

JULY
1-2 @ Tampa Bay
3-6 @ NYY
ALL-STAR BREAK
11-13 Balt
18-20 @ LAA
21-23 @ Seattle
25-27 NYY
28-30 LAA

AUGUST
4-7 @ Kansas City
8-11 @ Chicago
12-14 Tex
18-20 @ Balt
22-24 @ Toronto
26-28 @ NYY
29-31 vs Chicago

SEPTEMBER
1-3 Balt
5-7 @ Texas
8-10 vs Tampa Bay
15-17 @ Tampa Bay
19-21 @ Toronto
26-28 NYY (end of season)
Does MLB not want to make as much money as possible! I assumed the Cubs at Sox would be a lock! WTF! Atleast the Sox get to beat up on the lowly Brewers at home.

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:15 am
by BottleofRum
Looking at the schedule, if this is the final one they only have one 3 series homestand and look at the schedule around the All Star break?? And the May and August games, almost all are away. But thye do get a 4 day All Star Break.

The Boston Globe now has a better formatted one posted
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... _schedule/

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:25 am
by aeroparrot
BottleofRum wrote:2008 Red Sox Schedule
Note, they end the season @ hame against the Yankees. No Cubs @ Red Sox... :(

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... _schedule/
Hmmm....

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:34 am
by CaptainP
Wino you know wrote:
CaptainP wrote:How do you think Astros fans felt when they gave up Larry Anderson, who they had heard of, for some unknown piece of crap named Jeff Bagwell?


And the Braves fans must've been p*** when they gave up Doyle Alexander for some minor-league nobody named John Smoltz...
IF this Omar Mynammar Whatever-his-name-is character becomes 1/10th the player Jeff Bagwell or John Smoltz became, I'll shut up and eat crow.

Fair enough?
Yes.

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:36 am
by CaptainP
Interesting comment from Doug Melvin, the GM for your Milwaukee Brewers.

When the Brewers drafted Ryan Braun, they actually had one other player rated higher than him. But since they already had a good SS prospect in J.J. Hardy, they decided to draft Braun instead of....Troy Tulowitzki!!!



How's that for a win-win

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:36 am
by BottleofRum
aeroparrot wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:2008 Red Sox Schedule
Note, they end the season @ hame against the Yankees. No Cubs @ Red Sox... :(

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... _schedule/
Hmmm....
The whole schedule is odd.

Only one series @ Cleveland and it is a 2 game series :-?

3 west cost trips including one to Japan :o

Another 4 game series in Chicago against the White Sox over a weekend, I'll be there for that again. :D

and the weirdest thing, 2008 is the last year at Yankee Stadium, you would think they would have the Yankees end the season at home!

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:41 am
by CaptainP
Now THAT was one heck of a draft class...2005.

Only 2 years later, lets look at some of the first round draftees...

1. D'backs Justin Upton
2 Royals Alex Gordon
4 Nationals Ryan Zimmerman
5 Brewers Ryan Braun
7 Rockies Troy Tulowitzki
9 Mets Mike Pelfrey
10 Tigers Cameron Maybin
23 RedSox Jacoby Ellsbury
25 Twins Matt Garza
36 (supplimental) Athletics Travis Buck
42 (supplimental) RedSox Clay Buchholz

Joey Devine, Lance Broadway, Garrett Olson, and Craig Hansen have also spent time in the majors already

Later round picks that are already in the majors include: Micah Owings & Kevin Slowey


Not a bad start...

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:44 am
by aeroparrot
BottleofRum wrote:
aeroparrot wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:2008 Red Sox Schedule
Note, they end the season @ hame against the Yankees. No Cubs @ Red Sox... :(

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/r ... _schedule/
Hmmm....
The whole schedule is odd.

Only one series @ Cleveland and it is a 2 game series :-?

3 west cost trips including one to Japan :o

Another 4 game series in Chicago against the White Sox over a weekend, I'll be there for that again. :D

and the weirdest thing, 2008 is the last year at Yankee Stadium, you would think they would have the Yankees end the season at home!
Very weird especially we're playing AZ instead of CHC?

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:57 am
by SharkOnLand
Looks like the Mets are trying to overpay for Torrealba:
LINK

He's not a bad catcher, but I don't think he's worth $5 mil a year. Seems he's got a bum shoulder.

Posted: November 14, 2007 11:59 am
by SMLCHNG
SharkOnLand wrote:Looks like the Mets are trying to overpay for Torrealba:
LINK
He's not a bad catcher, but I don't think he's worth $5 mil a year. Seems he's got a bum shoulder.
:-? :( :-?

Posted: November 14, 2007 12:01 pm
by LIPH
CaptainP wrote:Now THAT was one heck of a draft class...2005.

Only 2 years later, lets look at some of the first round draftees...

1. D'backs Justin Upton
2 Royals Alex Gordon
4 Nationals Ryan Zimmerman
5 Brewers Ryan Braun
7 Rockies Troy Tulowitzki
9 Mets Mike Pelfrey
10 Tigers Cameron Maybin
23 RedSox Jacoby Ellsbury
25 Twins Matt Garza
36 (supplimental) Athletics Travis Buck
42 (supplimental) RedSox Clay Buchholz

Joey Devine, Lance Broadway, Garrett Olson, and Craig Hansen have also spent time in the majors already

Later round picks that are already in the majors include: Micah Owings & Kevin Slowey


Not a bad start...
I'm still not convinced Pelfrey is going to pan out. 3-8, ERA about 5.50, almost 11 hits and 5 walks/9 innings. On the bright side, he has a 19 game errorless streak in the field. :lol:

Posted: November 14, 2007 12:02 pm
by LIPH
SharkOnLand wrote:Looks like the Mets are trying to overpay for Torrealba:
LINK

He's not a bad catcher, but I don't think he's worth $5 mil a year. Seems he's got a bum shoulder.
I'd rather see them bring LoDuca back on either a 1 or 2 year contract, with Ramon Castro staying on as his backup.

Posted: November 14, 2007 12:10 pm
by drunkpirate66
CaptainP wrote:Now THAT was one heck of a draft class...2005.

Only 2 years later, lets look at some of the first round draftees...

1. D'backs Justin Upton
2 Royals Alex Gordon
4 Nationals Ryan Zimmerman
5 Brewers Ryan Braun
7 Rockies Troy Tulowitzki
9 Mets Mike Pelfrey
10 Tigers Cameron Maybin
23 RedSox Jacoby Ellsbury
25 Twins Matt Garza
36 (supplimental) Athletics Travis Buck
42 (supplimental) RedSox Clay Buchholz

Joey Devine, Lance Broadway, Garrett Olson, and Craig Hansen have also spent time in the majors already

Later round picks that are already in the majors include: Micah Owings & Kevin Slowey


Not a bad start...
It was a great class for sure . . .

Garza and Maybin haven't done what they are supposed to and neither has Buck . . . I was surprised that Slowey moved ahead of Garza this year. I still love Gordon but I just feel that by the time he starts to put up David Wright numbers like he is projected to his will be a free agent and go somewhere that can afford him. The Royals were stupid to spend money on a worthless Gil Meche when they could have banked on Gordon . . .

the best in that draft by far will be Justin Upton - as much as I like Elisbury, Upton can field better and hit for power . . . Elisbury is all speed.

Posted: November 14, 2007 12:17 pm
by chippewa
I know the Yankees have an unlimited budget, but a $45M three-year offer for Rivera? He's coming off his worst season in the past dozen seasons, and will be 38 later this month. I don't think salary that makes sense, even in baseball terms.