Could 2007 be a big touring year for JB?

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » January 24, 2007 12:37 pm

Tiki Torches wrote:When Buffett does retire I hope he does it in the same fashion as Johnny Carson and actually makes good on his word. I don't think he'll retire nearly as soon as people think he is. There's lots of musicians out there much older than Buffett still touring and recording very actively so I believe his actual retirement is much farther in the future.

I got the impression from Jimmy's Johnny Carson tribute video that he kind of intended to do just that: truly retire when he finally hangs it up... however, even once the Big Tour is over with, I can see JB popping into bars and singing, or setting up inpromptu "Freddy" gigs for a very long time....

miphinz · Post by **miphinz** » January 24, 2007 12:48 pm

Most of you will think I'm negative about this, but I'm looking at it as a realist:

I don't think it will be a good touring year. Ya, he'll make his $$$ and sell out every single show...but he's closer to retirement than ever. He said it on the RM interview he's doing fewer shows, and that to me means that ticket prices will even get higher. Ticket prices have risen every year since 2000.

Higher demand, and more old folks that can afford $200+ for a ticket to see JB. Plus, don't we think it'll be at smaller venues? And if he's gonna do some amphitheatre shows they'll be few and far between. I would love to see him again, but I still can't justify paying $120+ to see him again when I could go to the venue drink, and listen to the show on sirius..A heck of a lot cheaper than going to the show and putting up with 40, 50, 60 yr olds that want to be in their 20's again, and bubba forgetting more and more of his lyrics to his songs. I know some, not all people here feel the same was as I do.

- With the beer...I've bought it and its really not that good. If you're a serious beer drinker, LSL is not for you...only for novice beer drinkers. Plus 3.2% alcohol? That's tooo lite. But with all the people willing to try it out it'll be a success b/c anything buffett puts his name on it turns to gold.

- TTWWY will still get some 'press' b/c its a glorfied county album, and that on affects the people that love the 'country' sound. Not everyone likes that sound, as you can see in the billboard 100 drop.

- More M'ville means more $$$, I think with the insane amounts of money he's making off all of his ventures (Sirius, LSL, His clothing line, food, etc..) why would he need to tour again? Buffett will be a billionaire by 2010.

- Sirius / RM. More and more people are buying it..so why not go to a show that tickets are from $26-$126, when you can sit at home (or anywhere in the world) and listen to the show. Sometimes its better than being there with people there to hear the SYKBH, and spilling beer all over you. Sirius/RM hasn't put a dent on buffett concert attendance, but why go to the show when you can chill at home? Sirius gives you that option, and at $13.95 a month is better than spending $126+ on a single ticket, plus parking, plus all the alcohol we drink at the shows, $8 beers inside the venue, and the hassle of waiting in traffic, etc...

- We'll see about 2007. I wish bubba the best, I still love buffett but man things have really changed from years past...
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Tiki Torches · Post by **Tiki Torches** » January 24, 2007 1:35 pm

miphinz wrote:Most of you will think I'm negative about this, but I'm looking at it as a realist:

I don't think it will be a good touring year. Ya, he'll make his $$$ and sell out every single show...but he's closer to retirement than ever. He said it on the RM interview he's doing fewer shows, and that to me means that ticket prices will even get higher. Ticket prices have risen every year since 2000.

He jokes about retirement every year. He also said last year he'd be playing fewer shows. I think we all know how that turned out.

miphinz wrote:- Sirius / RM. More and more people are buying it..so why not go to a show that tickets are from $26-$126, when you can sit at home (or anywhere in the world) and listen to the show. Sometimes its better than being there with people there to hear the SYKBH, and spilling beer all over you. Sirius/RM hasn't put a dent on buffett concert attendance, but why go to the show when you can chill at home? Sirius gives you that option, and at $13.95 a month is better than spending $126+ on a single ticket, plus parking, plus all the alcohol we drink at the shows, $8 beers inside the venue, and the hassle of waiting in traffic, etc...

I agree with the price of the shows but prior to Sirius his concerts were readily available via Radio Margaritaville, the tradling of live shows, etc. I don't see it cutting into attendance.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » January 24, 2007 1:51 pm

miphinz wrote:He said it on the RM interview he's doing fewer shows, and that to me means that ticket prices will even get higher. Ticket prices have risen every year since 2000.

Prices of just about everything have risen since 2000.

miphinz wrote:Higher demand, and more old folks that can afford $200+ for a ticket to see JB.

Old folks aren't the only ones who can afford the ticket prices. If we were, there wouldn't be any drunken frat boys acting like a-holes at the shows.

miphinz wrote: ... I still can't justify paying $120+ to see him again when I could go to the venue drink, and listen to the show on sirius..A heck of a lot cheaper than going to the show and putting up with 40, 50, 60 yr olds that want to be in their 20's again, ...

As opposed to people in their 20s acting like they're 15, going drinking for the first time and getting shitfaced.

miphinz wrote: - With the beer...I've bought it and its really not that good. If you're a serious beer drinker, LSL is not for you...only for novice beer drinkers. Plus 3.2% alcohol? That's tooo lite. But with all the people willing to try it out it'll be a success b/c anything buffett puts his name on it turns to gold.

The fact that people will try it doesn't mean it will be a success. I'm willing to give it a try but if I don't like it I won't buy it again.

miphinz wrote:- TTWWY will still get some 'press' b/c its a glorfied county album, and that on affects the people that love the 'country' sound. Not everyone likes that sound, as you can see in the billboard 100 drop.

Where is it getting press? I don't remember seeing anything about it in any of the NY papers even when it first came out.

As for the "drop" in the Billboard 100, that's no different than any of JB's other albums except maybe License To Chill. The fans all go out and buy his CDs when they're released but the sales usually don't have legs. As soon as the fans get their copies he drops off the charts in a couple of weeks.

miphinz wrote:- More M'ville means more $$$, I think with the insane amounts of money he's making off all of his ventures (Sirius, LSL, His clothing line, food, etc..) why would he need to tour again? Buffett will be a billionaire by 2010.

Are you saying if you were in his position you wouldn't do everything you could to maximize revenue? He's a smart businessman doing what smart businessmen do.

miphinz wrote:- Sirius / RM. More and more people are buying it..so why not go to a show that tickets are from $26-$126, when you can sit at home (or anywhere in the world) and listen to the show. Sometimes its better than being there with people there to hear the SYKBH, and spilling beer all over you.

Anyone who thinks sitting at home listening on the radio is better than being at the show live loses whatever credibility his argument may have had.

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » January 24, 2007 3:08 pm

miphinz wrote:Most of you will think I'm negative about this, but I'm looking at it as a realist:

I don't think it will be a good touring year. Ya, he'll make his $$$ and sell out every single show...but he's closer to retirement than ever. He said it on the RM interview he's doing fewer shows, and that to me means that ticket prices will even get higher. Ticket prices have risen every year since 2000.

Higher demand, and more old folks that can afford $200+ for a ticket to see JB. Plus, don't we think it'll be at smaller venues? And if he's gonna do some amphitheatre shows they'll be few and far between. I would love to see him again, but I still can't justify paying $120+ to see him again when I could go to the venue drink, and listen to the show on sirius..A heck of a lot cheaper than going to the show and putting up with 40, 50, 60 yr olds that want to be in their 20's again, and bubba forgetting more and more of his lyrics to his songs. I know some, not all people here feel the same was as I do.

- With the beer...I've bought it and its really not that good. If you're a serious beer drinker, LSL is not for you...only for novice beer drinkers. Plus 3.2% alcohol? That's tooo lite. But with all the people willing to try it out it'll be a success b/c anything buffett puts his name on it turns to gold.

- TTWWY will still get some 'press' b/c its a glorfied county album, and that on affects the people that love the 'country' sound. Not everyone likes that sound, as you can see in the billboard 100 drop.

- More M'ville means more $$$, I think with the insane amounts of money he's making off all of his ventures (Sirius, LSL, His clothing line, food, etc..) why would he need to tour again? Buffett will be a billionaire by 2010.

- Sirius / RM. More and more people are buying it..so why not go to a show that tickets are from $26-$126, when you can sit at home (or anywhere in the world) and listen to the show. Sometimes its better than being there with people there to hear the SYKBH, and spilling beer all over you. Sirius/RM hasn't put a dent on buffett concert attendance, but why go to the show when you can chill at home? Sirius gives you that option, and at $13.95 a month is better than spending $126+ on a single ticket, plus parking, plus all the alcohol we drink at the shows, $8 beers inside the venue, and the hassle of waiting in traffic, etc...

- We'll see about 2007. I wish bubba the best, I still love buffett but man things have really changed from years past...
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If you dont like it then stay home with your domino club. That is some of the most offensive crap I have ever heard!

Bro take it easy. Its just sharp criticizm. I'm not criticizing you, your mother of your father, just Jimmy Buffett.

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » January 24, 2007 3:09 pm

LIPH wrote:
miphinz wrote:He said it on the RM interview he's doing fewer shows, and that to me means that ticket prices will even get higher. Ticket prices have risen every year since 2000.
Prices of just about everything have risen since 2000.

miphinz wrote:Higher demand, and more old folks that can afford $200+ for a ticket to see JB.
Old folks aren't the only ones who can afford the ticket prices. If we were, there wouldn't be any drunken frat boys acting like a-holes at the shows.

miphinz wrote: ... I still can't justify paying $120+ to see him again when I could go to the venue drink, and listen to the show on sirius..A heck of a lot cheaper than going to the show and putting up with 40, 50, 60 yr olds that want to be in their 20's again, ...
As opposed to people in their 20s acting like they're 15, going drinking for the first time and getting shitfaced.

miphinz wrote: - With the beer...I've bought it and its really not that good. If you're a serious beer drinker, LSL is not for you...only for novice beer drinkers. Plus 3.2% alcohol? That's tooo lite. But with all the people willing to try it out it'll be a success b/c anything buffett puts his name on it turns to gold.
The fact that people will try it doesn't mean it will be a success. I'm willing to give it a try but if I don't like it I won't buy it again.

miphinz wrote:- TTWWY will still get some 'press' b/c its a glorfied county album, and that on affects the people that love the 'country' sound. Not everyone likes that sound, as you can see in the billboard 100 drop.
Where is it getting press? I don't remember seeing anything about it in any of the NY papers even when it first came out.

As for the "drop" in the Billboard 100, that's no different than any of JB's other albums except maybe License To Chill. The fans all go out and buy his CDs when they're released but the sales usually don't have legs. As soon as the fans get their copies he drops off the charts in a couple of weeks.

miphinz wrote:- More M'ville means more $$$, I think with the insane amounts of money he's making off all of his ventures (Sirius, LSL, His clothing line, food, etc..) why would he need to tour again? Buffett will be a billionaire by 2010.
Are you saying if you were in his position you wouldn't do everything you could to maximize revenue? He's a smart businessman doing what smart businessmen do.

miphinz wrote:- Sirius / RM. More and more people are buying it..so why not go to a show that tickets are from $26-$126, when you can sit at home (or anywhere in the world) and listen to the show. Sometimes its better than being there with people there to hear the SYKBH, and spilling beer all over you.
Anyone who thinks sitting at home listening on the radio is better than being at the show live loses whatever credibility his argument may have had.

Ha.

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » January 24, 2007 3:16 pm

LIPH wrote:
miphinz wrote:He said it on the RM interview he's doing fewer shows, and that to me means that ticket prices will even get higher. Ticket prices have risen every year since 2000.
Prices of just about everything have risen since 2000.

Your reiterating my point.

miphinz wrote:Higher demand, and more old folks that can afford $200+ for a ticket to see JB.
Old folks aren't the only ones who can afford the ticket prices. If we were, there wouldn't be any drunken frat boys acting like a-holes at the shows.

well, you don't liek the younger people there and I don't like the older people there. We agree to disagree.

miphinz wrote: ... I still can't justify paying $120+ to see him again when I could go to the venue drink, and listen to the show on sirius..A heck of a lot cheaper than going to the show and putting up with 40, 50, 60 yr olds that want to be in their 20's again, ...
As opposed to people in their 20s acting like they're 15, going drinking for the first time and getting shitfaced.

''push''....

miphinz wrote: - With the beer...I've bought it and its really not that good. If you're a serious beer drinker, LSL is not for you...only for novice beer drinkers. Plus 3.2% alcohol? That's tooo lite. But with all the people willing to try it out it'll be a success b/c anything buffett puts his name on it turns to gold.
The fact that people will try it doesn't mean it will be a success. I'm willing to give it a try but if I don't like it I won't buy it again.

Sure you will, but the 85% of us who are obsessed with Buffett will buy it b/c his name on it.

miphinz wrote:- TTWWY will still get some 'press' b/c its a glorfied county album, and that on affects the people that love the 'country' sound. Not everyone likes that sound, as you can see in the billboard 100 drop.

Where is it getting press? I don't remember seeing anything about it in any of the NY papers even when it first came out.

As for the "drop" in the Billboard 100, that's no different than any of JB's other albums except maybe License To Chill. The fans all go out and buy his CDs when they're released but the sales usually don't have legs. As soon as the fans get their copies he drops off the charts in a couple of weeks.

Press here in FL...so all my points do make sense. Jeez.

miphinz wrote:- More M'ville means more $$$, I think with the insane amounts of money he's making off all of his ventures (Sirius, LSL, His clothing line, food, etc..) why would he need to tour again? Buffett will be a billionaire by 2010.
Are you saying if you were in his position you wouldn't do everything you could to maximize revenue? He's a smart businessman doing what smart businessmen do.

You're making excuses...jimmy can live off of any of one venture and still be a millionaire. He can maximize revenue b/c theres a market off old people who are more than willing to blow several hundreds of dollars to 'live his lifestyle' pretty lame to me. Be yourself, be original and don't copy anyone else.

miphinz wrote:- Sirius / RM. More and more people are buying it..so why not go to a show that tickets are from $26-$126, when you can sit at home (or anywhere in the world) and listen to the show. Sometimes its better than being there with people there to hear the SYKBH, and spilling beer all over you.

Anyone who thinks sitting at home listening on the radio is better than being at the show live loses whatever credibility his argument may have had.

Well, if you want to blow $400-$1000 on a weekend to see buffett, more power to you. I rather not put up with the hassle of going to a show, dealing with drunk, obnoxious 50, 60 year old that want to live in their hay day just b/c buffett comes to town. Besides the fact that the 'product' we are paying are hard earned money isn't what it used to be. Again, its just an opinion.

ScarletB · Post by **ScarletB** » January 24, 2007 3:16 pm

What LIPH said

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » January 24, 2007 3:17 pm

ScarletB wrote:What LIPH said

I just disagree

CrznDnUS1 · Post by **CrznDnUS1** » January 24, 2007 4:17 pm

i still say go out and see new and emerging talent for a fraction of the cost. Go see Dan Bern and enjoy.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » January 24, 2007 4:19 pm

CrznDnUS1 wrote:i still say go out and see new and emerging talent for a fraction of the cost. Go see Dan Bern and enjoy.

I'll do both, to the extent I can. I still like to see JB, but I also enjoy others' shows.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » January 24, 2007 4:22 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CrznDnUS1 wrote:i still say go out and see new and emerging talent for a fraction of the cost. Go see Dan Bern and enjoy.
I'll do both, to the extent I can. I still like to see JB, but I also enjoy others' shows.

That's right, going to Buffett concerts and seeing other acts isn't mutually exclusive. My office is walking distance from BB Kings, I probably went to about 8 or 9 shows there last year. I think the most expensive ticket was $40, the cheapest was free.

CrznDnUS1 · Post by **CrznDnUS1** » January 24, 2007 4:23 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CrznDnUS1 wrote:i still say go out and see new and emerging talent for a fraction of the cost. Go see Dan Bern and enjoy.
I'll do both, to the extent I can. I still like to see JB, but I also enjoy others' shows.

I'll probably do both as well if I can get tickets. And basically any big act who can charge $100+ for pavillion seats is doing just that. Supply and demand. Oh well!

miphinz · Post by **miphinz** » January 24, 2007 4:29 pm

Just to clarify I did not write the long post that everyone thinks I wrote at the beginning of this page. I was responding to the post where at the bottom I wrote if you dont like it then stay home. I feel that most of the 40, 50, and 60 year old crowd have been the ones around since the beginning and for someone to b**** about having to attend a show by a performer who himself is 60 years old with a crowd from the same generation is a bit over the top. If it wasnt for many of these people who have made it possible for Jimmy to still be doing what he does today there wouldnt be any more shows period. I have had the honor to meet some "older parrotheads" any many of them I consider good friends to this day. I myself have no problem paying the price for tickets as I just shelled out $280.00 plus for Orlando tickets. My point is that if you dont like the people who go to these shows and you dont like the price of admission to these shows then stay home.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » January 24, 2007 4:32 pm

miphinz wrote:Just to clarify I did not write the long post that everyone thinks I wrote at the beginning of this page. I was responding to the post where at the bottom I wrote if you dont like it then stay home.

I noticed that after I typed my response and clicked "Submit". My apologies if it looked like I was ripping you.

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » January 24, 2007 4:38 pm

anyway..i didn't mean to rub you guys the wrong way. But I am not shy of criticizing, and when I see Buffett in Orlando I will have fun, and try not to harp on the downside of being a parrothead

CrznDnUS1 · Post by **CrznDnUS1** » January 24, 2007 4:42 pm

If I want to drink inside, I can put takillya or Parrot Bay in my fruity lei

What are these fruity lei's you talk about? Sound like I gotta get some.

ToplessRideFL · Post by **ToplessRideFL** » January 24, 2007 4:42 pm

Pablo Escobar wrote:anyway..i didn't mean to rub you guys the wrong way. But I am not shy of criticizing, and when I see Buffett in Orlando I will have fun, and try not to harp on the downside of being a parrothead

I didnt know there was a down side... I better go read this thread....

thebeachbumm33 · Post by **thebeachbumm33** » January 24, 2007 5:08 pm

CrznDnUS1 wrote:
If I want to drink inside, I can put takillya or Parrot Bay in my fruity lei
What are these fruity lei's you talk about? Sound like I gotta get some.

Don't tell anyone

but if you buy a box of these

and empty the candy and then add your own drink of choice then attach to your favorite lei you will be set.

You can get them here http://www.candydirect.com/novelty/Cand ... t-Box.html Again don't tell anyone

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » January 24, 2007 5:13 pm

CrznDnUS1 wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
CrznDnUS1 wrote:i still say go out and see new and emerging talent for a fraction of the cost. Go see Dan Bern and enjoy.
I'll do both, to the extent I can. I still like to see JB, but I also enjoy others' shows.
I'll probably do both as well if I can get tickets. And basically any big act who can charge $100+ for pavillion seats is doing just that. Supply and demand. Oh well!

You specifically mentioned new and emerging acts... Often *great* music!! I see live music in my area for free, frequently.