Quiet and Shy...
I couldn't agree more! Yes the discussion title I put up did contain both my personal view in that I am not opposed to the hunt as well as that there was a mistake in facts Jimmy mentioned.
I actually enjoy these types of threads, because as you mentioned you really get to discuss some great stuff! Sure, once in a while people get heated or don't understand where the other person is coming from but that is all part of a discussion.
This is what is wonderful with these forms and the freedom we have to write them.
I don't post on a lot of issues on here because, they are often boring. But I really like when there is stuff to think about and have peoples reactions, which often leads to great debates and discussions.
Other than this, I really enjoyed the post about Reggae Billy Hill which was so good and had so many great respones we got a response on behalf of the artist!
NOW TELL ME THAT WASN"T COOL!
Frozen Finz,
Cougs
Jimmy, this time you are wrong!
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Couganata wrote:Quiet and Shy...
I couldn't agree more! Yes the discussion title I put up did contain both my personal view in that I am not opposed to the hunt as well as that there was a mistake in facts Jimmy mentioned.
I actually enjoy these types of threads, because as you mentioned you really get to discuss some great stuff! Sure, once in a while people get heated or don't understand where the other person is coming from but that is all part of a discussion.
This is what is wonderful with these forms and the freedom we have to write them.
I don't post on a lot of issues on here because, they are often boring. But I really like when there is stuff to think about and have peoples reactions, which often leads to great debates and discussions.
Other than this, I really enjoyed the post about Reggae Billy Hill which was so good and had so many great respones we got a response on behalf of the artist!
NOW TELL ME THAT WASN"T COOL!
Frozen Finz,
Cougs
I dont want to debate you but I think youre wrong.
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YEEP.
I guess what I think is so "wrong" about the whole situation is not him being against the seal hunt, but being in bed with the H$U$.
If they had their way, we wouldn't be allowed to own pets. This is documented, and many in H$U$ have left the organization because of the intense corruption.
If people only knew how terrible an organization the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is.
They don't care about animals. All they care about is the Almighty Dollar. If they had their way it'd be illegal to eat eggs, honey, dairy or wear silk and wool. Yes, I said that. I believe/know so. No, I am not exaggerating.
Do I hate the HSUS? Yes. They are against farmers, and rural people, against personal freedoms.
It's fine to be against the seal hunt. Do some research on what kind of people make-up the HSUS before you go diving into their pool of sewage.
If they had their way, we wouldn't be allowed to own pets. This is documented, and many in H$U$ have left the organization because of the intense corruption.
If people only knew how terrible an organization the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is.
They don't care about animals. All they care about is the Almighty Dollar. If they had their way it'd be illegal to eat eggs, honey, dairy or wear silk and wool. Yes, I said that. I believe/know so. No, I am not exaggerating.
Do I hate the HSUS? Yes. They are against farmers, and rural people, against personal freedoms.
It's fine to be against the seal hunt. Do some research on what kind of people make-up the HSUS before you go diving into their pool of sewage.
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ToplessRideFL wrote:Tiki already did.phjrsaunt wrote:Yes, we HAVE already talked about this. I don't think the iniator of this thread was aware of that fact. Perhaps somebody could help me find the original thread to point him to?
Hmmmm.....hypocrisy!
Now I ask, which is more unappealing- Asking a question in a forum that has already been asked? or to exacerbate the situation by contentiously, continually, and repeatedly) calling it out?
Ms.Terd
PS- Is it a rule now, that all threads must be eventually hijacked?
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Fri Jan 26, 6:55 AM
By By Constant Brand
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BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - The European Union's executive commission rejected appeals Friday for an EU-wide ban on the import of seal fur products to force the closure of Canada's annual seal hunt.
The EU head office said a 1983 EU law which imposes limited bans on the import of fur taken from young seal pups "provides adequate response" to concerns presented by the European Parliament.
The EU assembly voted last year demanding the European Commission introduce a total ban on seal products in protest of what EU lawmakers called cruel and inhumane hunting tactics used to kill seal pups for their skins, notably in Canada.
In an official response sent to the legislators, the commission said reports it had seen on inhumane hunting methods were "partly contradictory."
However, it said the EU would take "all necessary steps to ascertain the use of humane hunting standards for seals, and if deemed appropriate, propose ... to take action," in wake of "the high level of public concerns" over the issue.
The Commission said the population of seals in Canada's Arctic and Atlantic regions "has grown significantly" in the last three decades from just under two million to around six million harp seals alone, adding the seals were not listed as endangered species.
Legislators said however that the inaction by the EU was hypocritical as it seeks to impose a separate ban on all imports of dog and cat fur into the 27-nation bloc.
"Commercial seal hunting is a brutal and cruel practice, targeting seal pups only a few weeks old," said Carl Schlyter, a Swedish Green party member of the EU parliament, who visited the annual seal hunt off Canada's eastern coast last year.
He said Europe remains the largest market for seal fur, "so introducing an EU ban on seal products would be a crucial step toward ending this barbaric cull."
However, Canada says the biggest market for its seal products remains Norway, which is not a member of the EU. Schlyter said current rules were insufficient in preventing the import of fur taken from seal pups.
Current EU rules impose a ban on seal products derived from newborn harp seals less than 12 days old and young hooded seals less than one year old.
Environmental and animal rights groups argue the rules allow hunters to go after the pups once they reach an age just over the ban limit.
The European Parliament's appeal and moves by several EU nations like Belgium to introduce national bans caused widespread anger in Canada. Canadian Fisheries Minister, Loyola Hearn, told Belgian politicians last year to think about Canadian soldiers who died in Europe during the first World War before slamming the door shut on Canadian seal products.
Belgian legislators however, voted unanimously on Thursday to back a national ban on the import of all seal products into the country, becoming the first EU country to do so. Germany, Italy and the Netherlands are also currently working on similar bans.
Canadian officials have defended the hunt saying it is vital to the survival of aboriginal peoples in the Arctic and provided an economic lifeline for a region desperate for jobs and growth.
The seal hunt also employs around 6,000 Atlantic Canadians per year.
By By Constant Brand
ADVERTISEMENT
BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - The European Union's executive commission rejected appeals Friday for an EU-wide ban on the import of seal fur products to force the closure of Canada's annual seal hunt.
The EU head office said a 1983 EU law which imposes limited bans on the import of fur taken from young seal pups "provides adequate response" to concerns presented by the European Parliament.
The EU assembly voted last year demanding the European Commission introduce a total ban on seal products in protest of what EU lawmakers called cruel and inhumane hunting tactics used to kill seal pups for their skins, notably in Canada.
In an official response sent to the legislators, the commission said reports it had seen on inhumane hunting methods were "partly contradictory."
However, it said the EU would take "all necessary steps to ascertain the use of humane hunting standards for seals, and if deemed appropriate, propose ... to take action," in wake of "the high level of public concerns" over the issue.
The Commission said the population of seals in Canada's Arctic and Atlantic regions "has grown significantly" in the last three decades from just under two million to around six million harp seals alone, adding the seals were not listed as endangered species.
Legislators said however that the inaction by the EU was hypocritical as it seeks to impose a separate ban on all imports of dog and cat fur into the 27-nation bloc.
"Commercial seal hunting is a brutal and cruel practice, targeting seal pups only a few weeks old," said Carl Schlyter, a Swedish Green party member of the EU parliament, who visited the annual seal hunt off Canada's eastern coast last year.
He said Europe remains the largest market for seal fur, "so introducing an EU ban on seal products would be a crucial step toward ending this barbaric cull."
However, Canada says the biggest market for its seal products remains Norway, which is not a member of the EU. Schlyter said current rules were insufficient in preventing the import of fur taken from seal pups.
Current EU rules impose a ban on seal products derived from newborn harp seals less than 12 days old and young hooded seals less than one year old.
Environmental and animal rights groups argue the rules allow hunters to go after the pups once they reach an age just over the ban limit.
The European Parliament's appeal and moves by several EU nations like Belgium to introduce national bans caused widespread anger in Canada. Canadian Fisheries Minister, Loyola Hearn, told Belgian politicians last year to think about Canadian soldiers who died in Europe during the first World War before slamming the door shut on Canadian seal products.
Belgian legislators however, voted unanimously on Thursday to back a national ban on the import of all seal products into the country, becoming the first EU country to do so. Germany, Italy and the Netherlands are also currently working on similar bans.
Canadian officials have defended the hunt saying it is vital to the survival of aboriginal peoples in the Arctic and provided an economic lifeline for a region desperate for jobs and growth.
The seal hunt also employs around 6,000 Atlantic Canadians per year.