vagabonded wrote:I don't understand why so many people are being so aggressive and nasty.
Like you said, you haven't been here very long.
Do you mean that in seriousness? I tried to bite my tounge at this whole situation but seriously, what kind of premise does this set for other people who ask for support making difficult situations in their lives? I can promise that as long as I'm here I will not attack someone for realizing down the line that they made a decision that didn't agree with their lifestyle.
NanaBabe wrote:Coconuts, ya know what ya NEED to do? Don't let others opinions sway your decision or get to you. I am shocked at the judgemental attitude in here!!!!
There is nothing wrong with making an at-the-time-correct decision, then finding out that the decision wasn't the right one after all. I suppose none of you have ever gotten a divorce??????
And to equate not wanting dogs with the inability to be a good parent???? Don't any of you have children and realize just how incredibly different that love is from any other love you have ever felt in your entire life??????
I am truly and absolutely mortified at the hatred shown to someone who was obviously trying to find the right way to handle a tough moral dilemma. I certainly know where NOT to ask for moral support! Thanks for the advance warning before I get too comfortable in here.
I'd like to address two of your statements - I have a son and I have a dog. My son was raised with dogs as family members. Not pets - but family members. There is a difference in the love however the love of both is extremely intense - my pets are in essence my kids because I took that responsibility and made them a part of my family. It's really safe to say that if anyone messes with my pets or my kid they'll have hell to pay.
As far as moral support - you can't expect anyone to completely back you in moral decisions now can you? That's a fairy tale world that does not exist here or anywhere. I have received excellent support here when needed - I also got back stabbed, blasted, belittled - you name it. You've got to take the bad with the good because it's everywhere. Some places the bad is more prevalent than here.
She asked for advice here, not to be judged. I think the belittling probably made her already twisted emotions even worse. I think of belittling as a form of emotional abuse and best left out of my life.
Some will go and some will stay. It doesn't matter anyway ......
NanaBabe wrote:Coconuts, ya know what ya NEED to do? Don't let others opinions sway your decision or get to you. I am shocked at the judgemental attitude in here!!!!
There is nothing wrong with making an at-the-time-correct decision, then finding out that the decision wasn't the right one after all. I suppose none of you have ever gotten a divorce??????
And to equate not wanting dogs with the inability to be a good parent???? Don't any of you have children and realize just how incredibly different that love is from any other love you have ever felt in your entire life??????
I am truly and absolutely mortified at the hatred shown to someone who was obviously trying to find the right way to handle a tough moral dilemma. I certainly know where NOT to ask for moral support! Thanks for the advance warning before I get too comfortable in here.
I'd like to address two of your statements - I have a son and I have a dog. My son was raised with dogs as family members. Not pets - but family members. There is a difference in the love however the love of both is extremely intense - my pets are in essence my kids because I took that responsibility and made them a part of my family. It's really safe to say that if anyone messes with my pets or my kid they'll have hell to pay.
As far as moral support - you can't expect anyone to completely back you in moral decisions now can you? That's a fairy tale world that does not exist here or anywhere. I have received excellent support here when needed - I also got back stabbed, blasted, belittled - you name it. You've got to take the bad with the good because it's everywhere. Some places the bad is more prevalent than here.
Doesnt make it right or comforting anywhere though...
no but it's a fact of life
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
I am involved in a similiar situations with my in-laws. They got an Irish Setter pup for Christmas. We tried to tell them having a pup wasn't going to be easy when you are in your seventies and travel a lot. They didn't listen so now Winston needs a home. Since we have two adorable little teacup chihuahuas and nine cats. We aren't able to take a big dog. And as a vet tech, I KNOW I don't deal well with pups. My patience doesn't lend itself to puppies or to the two legged variety. If it was as easy for human females to get spayed as it is for dogs and cats, I'd have done it years ago. I worked at the local shelter for almost two years, please make that a LAST resort. We were low kill, but it still added up each year. No bashing or anything. We all make mistakes. There is a forever home out there for these guys.
NanaBabe wrote:Coconuts, ya know what ya NEED to do? Don't let others opinions sway your decision or get to you. I am shocked at the judgemental attitude in here!!!!
There is nothing wrong with making an at-the-time-correct decision, then finding out that the decision wasn't the right one after all. I suppose none of you have ever gotten a divorce??????
And to equate not wanting dogs with the inability to be a good parent???? Don't any of you have children and realize just how incredibly different that love is from any other love you have ever felt in your entire life??????
I am truly and absolutely mortified at the hatred shown to someone who was obviously trying to find the right way to handle a tough moral dilemma. I certainly know where NOT to ask for moral support! Thanks for the advance warning before I get too comfortable in here.
I'd like to address two of your statements - I have a son and I have a dog. My son was raised with dogs as family members. Not pets - but family members. There is a difference in the love however the love of both is extremely intense - my pets are in essence my kids because I took that responsibility and made them a part of my family. It's really safe to say that if anyone messes with my pets or my kid they'll have hell to pay.
As far as moral support - you can't expect anyone to completely back you in moral decisions now can you? That's a fairy tale world that does not exist here or anywhere. I have received excellent support here when needed - I also got back stabbed, blasted, belittled - you name it. You've got to take the bad with the good because it's everywhere. Some places the bad is more prevalent than here.
Doesnt make it right or comforting anywhere though...
no but it's a fact of life
Doesnt have to be... the only person you can control is yourself though so if everyone does their part... remember the golden rule? Maybe itll catch on.
NanaBabe wrote:Coconuts, ya know what ya NEED to do? Don't let others opinions sway your decision or get to you. I am shocked at the judgemental attitude in here!!!!
There is nothing wrong with making an at-the-time-correct decision, then finding out that the decision wasn't the right one after all. I suppose none of you have ever gotten a divorce??????
And to equate not wanting dogs with the inability to be a good parent???? Don't any of you have children and realize just how incredibly different that love is from any other love you have ever felt in your entire life??????
I am truly and absolutely mortified at the hatred shown to someone who was obviously trying to find the right way to handle a tough moral dilemma. I certainly know where NOT to ask for moral support! Thanks for the advance warning before I get too comfortable in here.
I'd like to address two of your statements - I have a son and I have a dog. My son was raised with dogs as family members. Not pets - but family members. There is a difference in the love however the love of both is extremely intense - my pets are in essence my kids because I took that responsibility and made them a part of my family. It's really safe to say that if anyone messes with my pets or my kid they'll have hell to pay.
As far as moral support - you can't expect anyone to completely back you in moral decisions now can you? That's a fairy tale world that does not exist here or anywhere. I have received excellent support here when needed - I also got back stabbed, blasted, belittled - you name it. You've got to take the bad with the good because it's everywhere. Some places the bad is more prevalent than here.
She asked for advice here, not to be judged. I think the belittling probably made her already twisted emotions even worse. I think of belittling as a form of emotional abuse and best left out of my life.
but not everyone belittled her (and I do agree that it probably made her feel worse) - there's good and bad everywhere is all I'm saying.
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
FWIW, my dog came from a home not unlike yours. His previous owner married a man with two kids, two dogs and a smallish house. There was just no place for Sam in her home when this change took place. So he came to live with us. Do I feel animosity to his previous owner? Absolutely not. Did she make a bad decision in adopting Sam (from the pound -- as a puppy)? No. Did she make a bad decision in marrying a guy who could not support a third dog? No.
Sam came out just fine and your dogs will too. Keep that in mind as you go about your business. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
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NanaBabe wrote:Coconuts, ya know what ya NEED to do? Don't let others opinions sway your decision or get to you. I am shocked at the judgemental attitude in here!!!!
There is nothing wrong with making an at-the-time-correct decision, then finding out that the decision wasn't the right one after all. I suppose none of you have ever gotten a divorce??????
And to equate not wanting dogs with the inability to be a good parent???? Don't any of you have children and realize just how incredibly different that love is from any other love you have ever felt in your entire life??????
I am truly and absolutely mortified at the hatred shown to someone who was obviously trying to find the right way to handle a tough moral dilemma. I certainly know where NOT to ask for moral support! Thanks for the advance warning before I get too comfortable in here.
I'd like to address two of your statements - I have a son and I have a dog. My son was raised with dogs as family members. Not pets - but family members. There is a difference in the love however the love of both is extremely intense - my pets are in essence my kids because I took that responsibility and made them a part of my family. It's really safe to say that if anyone messes with my pets or my kid they'll have hell to pay.
As far as moral support - you can't expect anyone to completely back you in moral decisions now can you? That's a fairy tale world that does not exist here or anywhere. I have received excellent support here when needed - I also got back stabbed, blasted, belittled - you name it. You've got to take the bad with the good because it's everywhere. Some places the bad is more prevalent than here.
Doesnt make it right or comforting anywhere though...
no but it's a fact of life
Doesnt have to be... the only person you can control is yourself though so if everyone does their part... remember the golden rule? Maybe itll catch on.
that's still unrealistic - as humans for some of us it's just our nature to be jerks. We have lessons to learn from our interaction with them - they do serve a purpose.
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
NanaBabe wrote:psssst Dave ... we got through, oh about 1111 pages without this fact of life ever raising it's head, didn't we?
1112 pages.
[Gets off high horse]
Nuff bickering already... bring on the boat drinks!!!
Dave, your Native American name should be glasswaymorethanhalffull. Wear it proudly, young grasshopper, it will carry you far in life, with that beautiful smile accompanying you on the entire ride.
Some will go and some will stay. It doesn't matter anyway ......
NanaBabe wrote:Coconuts, ya know what ya NEED to do? Don't let others opinions sway your decision or get to you. I am shocked at the judgemental attitude in here!!!!
There is nothing wrong with making an at-the-time-correct decision, then finding out that the decision wasn't the right one after all. I suppose none of you have ever gotten a divorce??????
And to equate not wanting dogs with the inability to be a good parent???? Don't any of you have children and realize just how incredibly different that love is from any other love you have ever felt in your entire life??????
I am truly and absolutely mortified at the hatred shown to someone who was obviously trying to find the right way to handle a tough moral dilemma. I certainly know where NOT to ask for moral support! Thanks for the advance warning before I get too comfortable in here.
I'd like to address two of your statements - I have a son and I have a dog. My son was raised with dogs as family members. Not pets - but family members. There is a difference in the love however the love of both is extremely intense - my pets are in essence my kids because I took that responsibility and made them a part of my family. It's really safe to say that if anyone messes with my pets or my kid they'll have hell to pay.
As far as moral support - you can't expect anyone to completely back you in moral decisions now can you? That's a fairy tale world that does not exist here or anywhere. I have received excellent support here when needed - I also got back stabbed, blasted, belittled - you name it. You've got to take the bad with the good because it's everywhere. Some places the bad is more prevalent than here.
Doesnt make it right or comforting anywhere though...
no but it's a fact of life
Doesnt have to be... the only person you can control is yourself though so if everyone does their part... remember the golden rule? Maybe itll catch on.
that's still unrealistic - as humans for some of us it's just our nature to be jerks. We have lessons to learn from our interaction with them - they do serve a purpose.
but that brings up a totally different subject... is it human nature to be a jerk or does the environment around us inspire that....
NanaBabe wrote:psssst Dave ... we got through, oh about 1111 pages without this fact of life ever raising it's head, didn't we?
1112 pages.
[Gets off high horse]
Nuff bickering already... bring on the boat drinks!!!
Dave, your Native American name should be glasswaymorethanhalffull. Wear it proudly, young grasshopper, it will carry you far in life, with that beautiful smile accompanying you on the entire ride.
thank ya thank ya nana.
jimmy said it best... "Be young, be foolish, but be happy"
I've spent over 2 decades working with throwaway kids as well as throwaway pets...so yeah, it touched a nerve.
My concern is that if Coco and Thom are really THAT unhappy with the dogs they won't take the time that may be needed to find them a good home or rescue group. When you don't want something you want it gone out of your life ASAP...no matter what that *thing* may be, that's just a fact of life. They might not have done their homework before getting the pups, but they can now and make sure the pups get to a good home, no matter how much more time it may take.
And Coco, if you can't find anyone you feel comfortable with, please contact this organization...they'll help you out. http://bestfriends.org/
ph4ever wrote:that's still unrealistic - as humans for some of us it's just our nature to be jerks.
Why were you looking at me when you said this, Miss Constance?
I wasn't looking at you but thru you to the other side
Damn, and I knew better than to sit next to Frank.
My real advice? Call your local shelter and ask them if you can pre-pay for the adoption cost. You can also tell them that you want the dogs back if they are not adopted out. Personally, I don't know how anyone can give up a dog, but this may be a way to pass them on to a good home.
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