This is absolutely disturbing!

[green1]

I don't think this can be blamed on any one person, but society as a whole. . . I believe WE have created this monster.

Our society has created this. But what is wrong with holding parents responsible for the actions of their children, along with the children? Parents are supposed to teach their kids right from wrong. And if they have to work, then they are suppsoed to ensure that their kids are being cared for by responsible adults, but in the end it is the parent's responsibility.

[RinglingRingling]

I think it's interesting how so many of us (myself included, although I didn't post it) wondered about what the kids might be charged with.

Back in the day, the discussion would probably have centered more around how their parents would have had them out in the woodshed for a good whippin' ... no courts involved....

Not saying either discussion is right or wrong, just a sign of the change in the times....

in some ways, it would be nice if it was as easy as "out to the woodshed" and no courts involved.

[pbans]

Another really evil thing out there is Bratz dolls. They are essentially Barbie whores with too much makeup and too little clothing.

at least Barbie has a job.............
I loathe Bratz dolls....Caitlin calls them Gangsta Barbies....

[SchoolGirlHeart]

I think it's interesting how so many of us (myself included, although I didn't post it) wondered about what the kids might be charged with.

Back in the day, the discussion would probably have centered more around how their parents would have had them out in the woodshed for a good whippin' ... no courts involved....

Not saying either discussion is right or wrong, just a sign of the change in the times....

in some ways, it would be nice if it was as easy as "out to the woodshed" and no courts involved.

Amen

[Moonie]

I think it's interesting how so many of us (myself included, although I didn't post it) wondered about what the kids might be charged with.

Back in the day, the discussion would probably have centered more around how their parents would have had them out in the woodshed for a good whippin' ... no courts involved....

Not saying either discussion is right or wrong, just a sign of the change in the times....

because corporal punishment can land the parents in jail/court?

[Brown Eyed Girl]

Another really evil thing out there is Bratz dolls. They are essentially Barbie whores with too much makeup and too little clothing.

I'm with ya there, sista. It is almost impossible to find a dolly for a little girl these days. Raggedy Ann and Andy are pretty much a thing of the past.

[buffettbride]

Another really evil thing out there is Bratz dolls. They are essentially Barbie whores with too much makeup and too little clothing.

at least Barbie has a job.............
I loathe Bratz dolls....Caitlin calls them Gangsta Barbies....

We never let Victoria have them. Once she got one for a gift and we made her take it back to the store and pick something else.

The name alone connotates bad behavior.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

I think it's interesting how so many of us (myself included, although I didn't post it) wondered about what the kids might be charged with.

Back in the day, the discussion would probably have centered more around how their parents would have had them out in the woodshed for a good whippin' ... no courts involved....

Not saying either discussion is right or wrong, just a sign of the change in the times....

because corporal punishment can land the parents in jail/court?

like I said... change in the times.... I'm certainly not an advocate of beating a child, but sometimes a spanking or a switching can sure get their attention.... (although 11-13 y/o's are mostly too old for that...)

and in the old days, that's exactly what would have been likely to happen to some of these kids.... right or wrong, that's what happened back then...

[buffettbride]

Another really evil thing out there is Bratz dolls. They are essentially Barbie whores with too much makeup and too little clothing.

I'm with ya there, sista. It is almost impossible to find a dolly for a little girl these days. Raggedy Ann and Andy are pretty much a thing of the past.

expensive, but...

http://www.americangirl.com

The magazine and Web site don't have advertisements and all the girls are strong role model examples, even in the face of some serious issues.

[buffettbride]

I think it's interesting how so many of us (myself included, although I didn't post it) wondered about what the kids might be charged with.

Back in the day, the discussion would probably have centered more around how their parents would have had them out in the woodshed for a good whippin' ... no courts involved....

Not saying either discussion is right or wrong, just a sign of the change in the times....

because corporal punishment can land the parents in jail/court?

like I said... change in the times.... I'm certainly not an advocate of beating a child, but sometimes a spanking or a switching can sure get their attention.... (although 11-13 y/o's are mostly too old for that...)

and in the old days, that's exactly what would have been likely to happen to some of these kids.... right or wrong, that's what happened back then...

Spanking isn't illegal anywhere. Beating the crap out of your kid is. Although as much as I hate either of them, there's a HUGE difference and usually the law acknowledges that.

[green1]

like I said... change in the times.... I'm certainly not an advocate of beating a child, but sometimes a spanking or a switching can sure get their attention.... (although 11-13 y/o's are mostly too old for that...)

and in the old days, that's exactly what would have been likely to happen to some of these kids.... right or wrong, that's what happened back then...

Beating and spanking are totally different.

[Moonie]

I think it's interesting how so many of us (myself included, although I didn't post it) wondered about what the kids might be charged with.

Back in the day, the discussion would probably have centered more around how their parents would have had them out in the woodshed for a good whippin' ... no courts involved....

Not saying either discussion is right or wrong, just a sign of the change in the times....

because corporal punishment can land the parents in jail/court?

like I said... change in the times.... I'm certainly not an advocate of beating a child, but sometimes a spanking or a switching can sure get their attention.... (although 11-13 y/o's are mostly too old for that...)

and in the old days, that's exactly what would have been likely to happen to some of these kids.... right or wrong, that's what happened back then...

it's what would have happened to me..no doubt about that...

there are way too many parents today that believe it's the school system's responsibility to discipline their children; and when they punish them then they scream you're picking on their kid..

corporal punishment has all but been banned from most Public School Systems..

it's just a big mess...

[SchoolGirlHeart]

Spanking isn't illegal anywhere. Beating the crap out of your kid is. Although as much as I hate either of them, there's a HUGE difference and usually the law acknowledges that.

Beating and spanking are totally different.

yep. exactly my point.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

there are way too many parents today that believe it's the school system's responsibility to discipline their children; and when they punish them then they scream you're picking on their kid...

My dad finally quite teaching when a kid yelled "f*** you" in his face and when he called the parents they said, "that's your problem, not ours." He said there was a day when the kid would have been likely to come in black and blue the next day....

[buffettbride]

Spanking isn't illegal anywhere. Beating the crap out of your kid is. Although as much as I hate either of them, there's a HUGE difference and usually the law acknowledges that.

Beating and spanking are totally different.

yep. exactly my point.

In all reality, it's the kids who get the crap beat out of them who are gonna be having sex in a classroom, likely not the ones who have been traditionally spanked.


omg, i think i just said that

I just happen to think a respectful (of others and oneself) child can be raised without spanking or hitting of any kind, period. But that's just me, and it's worked pretty well so far.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

My kids are far from perfect, like most kids. When a teacher called about my son's misbehavior in class ;ast year, she seemed surprised that I was angry with my son rather than her!

[Moonie]

there are way too many parents today that believe it's the school system's responsibility to discipline their children; and when they punish them then they scream you're picking on their kid...

My dad finally quite teaching when a kid yelled "f*** you" in his face and when he called the parents they said, "that's your problem, not ours." He said there was a day when the kid would have been likely to come in black and blue the next day....

there were some major problem brothers at the HS in OK...they got kicked off the bus...per usual...

the next morning the boys, mom and dad..were out when the bus went by and all of them mooned the bus..

I think the oldest son is in prison now...imagine that..

[buffettbride]

there are way too many parents today that believe it's the school system's responsibility to discipline their children; and when they punish them then they scream you're picking on their kid...

My dad finally quite teaching when a kid yelled "f*** you" in his face and when he called the parents they said, "that's your problem, not ours." He said there was a day when the kid would have been likely to come in black and blue the next day....

There's just no consequences anymore. I think it should be reasonable to expect if a child behaves that way toward the teacher then they are suspended. Now it's warnings, and paperwork, calls to home, and nothing that really drives home the message. The schools can't because of the risk of legal action and many parents just won't recognize that their child is doing something wrong.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

Spanking isn't illegal anywhere. Beating the crap out of your kid is. Although as much as I hate either of them, there's a HUGE difference and usually the law acknowledges that.

Beating and spanking are totally different.

yep. exactly my point.

In all reality, it's the kids who get the crap beat out of them who are gonna be having sex in a classroom, likely not the ones who have been traditionally spanked.


omg, i think i just said that

I just happen to think a respectful (of others and oneself) child can be raised without spanking or hitting of any kind, period. But that's just me, and it's worked pretty well so far.

Yep, I agree that kids who are beaten are likely to be the ones in trouble.

And I mostly agree about spanking... I think it depends on the child.... I very, very rarely spanked. Other methods usually worked better. But once in a very great while a smack on a four-year-old bottom got the desired results. My kids are waaaay to old to spank now.... they're bigger than I am..... and it hurts them more to take away computer time....

[Moonie]

Spanking isn't illegal anywhere. Beating the crap out of your kid is. Although as much as I hate either of them, there's a HUGE difference and usually the law acknowledges that.

Beating and spanking are totally different.

yep. exactly my point.

In all reality, it's the kids who get the crap beat out of them who are gonna be having sex in a classroom, likely not the ones who have been traditionally spanked.


omg, i think i just said that

I just happen to think a respectful (of others and oneself) child can be raised without spanking or hitting of any kind, period. But that's just me, and it's worked pretty well so far.

Yep, I agree that kids who are beaten are likely to be the ones in trouble.

And I mostly agree about spanking... I think it depends on the child.... I very, very rarely spanked. Other methods usually worked better. But once in a very great while a smack on a four-year-old bottom got the desired results. My kids are waaaay to old to spank now.... they're bigger than I am..... and it hurts them more to take away computer time....

I don't recall ever spanking mine after they were 3, maybe 4 years old...

we lived out from town .....taking the keys to their car...even threatening, got their attention...too many of their friends didn't have cars...

both of mine did, insured and ready to go before they turned 16...