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This is absolutely disturbing!

Posted: April 4, 2007 1:25 pm
by Tiki Bar
...especially since I have a 5th grader. :( :(

Louisiana 5th Graders Have Sex in Class

After posting a lookout when the teacher left a classroom unattended for about 15 minutes on March 27, four fifth grade students in Spearsville, La., had sex with each other in front of their classmates. The Associated Press reports that the students, two 11-year-old girls, a 12-year-old boy and a 13-year-old boy, have been charged with obscenity, a felony. The 11-year-old boy who served as the alleged lookout has been charged with being an accessory.

Authorities only found out about the incident at the school that houses students from kindergarten to 12th grade because a student who was in the class told a high school student about it the next day. That high school student then told a teacher, who in turn notified school officials and the sheriff's office. "After 44 years of doing this work, nothing shocks me anymore," Union Parish Sheriff Bob Buckley told AP. "But this comes pretty close."

The fifth-grade class was supposed to have been supervised at that time by a high school teacher, but that teacher instead went to an assembly for the older students, leaving the class of 15 fifth graders unattended. "When no teacher showed up, the four began to have sex in the classroom with the other elementary students in the classroom with them," Buckley told AP. The students, who have not been identified because of their ages, were arrested and will be arraigned in juvenile court. They have been released to the custody of their parents. Buckley said it was unclear what penalties the children could face.

Posted: April 4, 2007 1:55 pm
by lovin_jimmy
oh hell no! :o :o

did i read that right? a 13 yr old 5th grader.

.....still shaking head..... i would soooo loose it on some people

Re: This is absolutely disturbing!

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:01 pm
by rednekkPH
article wrote:...The students, who have not been identified because of their ages...
Actually, they were not identified because they all had the same last name.

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:07 pm
by kitty
my first reaction was to the 13yo in 5th grade??!!! :o

Sick world we live in...blame a lot of it in television! :evil:

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:13 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
kitty wrote:my first reaction was to the 13yo in 5th grade??!!! :o
he could easily have lost a school year to the aftermath of the hurricane, and if he was already a year behind at that point for some reason, there you have it....

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:22 pm
by RinglingRingling
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
kitty wrote:my first reaction was to the 13yo in 5th grade??!!! :o
he could easily have lost a school year to the aftermath of the hurricane, and if he was already a year behind at that point for some reason, there you have it....
just for reference, Spearsville is up on the Arkansas line NNW of Monroe off I-20.

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:26 pm
by green1
kitty wrote:Sick world we live in...blame a lot of it in television! :evil:
I blame the parents. Why not release the names of the parents of the children and the kids. Nothing will happen to them in court. They will get a slap on the wrist as a first time offense, or that it will hurt the little egos. Please, shame is a viable deterrent, release the names of the kids and parents (it's not like the aren't known already) and let the community ridicule them.

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:27 pm
by Tiki Torches
Isn't 13 years of age about right for the average age for losing one's virginity? Now, losing it in a classroom is another matter entirely. Well, except for maybe in Spears country.

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:37 pm
by RinglingRingling
Tiki Torches wrote:Isn't 13 years of age about right for the average age for losing one's virginity? Now, losing it in a classroom is another matter entirely. Well, except for maybe in Spears country.
she supposedly waited a lot longer...

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:41 pm
by Dally
Tiki Torches wrote:Isn't 13 years of age about right for the average age for losing one's virginity? Now, losing it in a classroom is another matter entirely. Well, except for maybe in Spears country.
you're joking, right?

Re: This is absolutely disturbing!

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:42 pm
by LIPH
Tiki Bar wrote:Buckley said it was unclear what penalties the children could face.
At the very least the boys should be charged with statutory rape. I don't know the law in Louisiana but I don't think the age of consent is 11.

Re: This is absolutely disturbing!

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:44 pm
by rednekkPH
LIPH wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:Buckley said it was unclear what penalties the children could face.
At the very least the boys should be charged with statutory rape. I don't know the law in Louisiana but I don't think the age of consent is 11.
I was always under the impression that one had to be over 18 to be charged with that, no?

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:47 pm
by kitty
Dally wrote:
Tiki Torches wrote:Isn't 13 years of age about right for the average age for losing one's virginity? Now, losing it in a classroom is another matter entirely. Well, except for maybe in Spears country.
you're joking, right?
I hope so! I have a 13 yo!! :o

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:47 pm
by LIPH
I'm not a criminal lawyer, I was just throwing something out there.

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:48 pm
by Skibo
I am also disturbed that a teacher would be willing to abandon a classroom of 15 students and leave them unattended. What was the teacher thinking?

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:49 pm
by AlbatrossFlyer
1) this happened in my 5th grade class except it was the playground so it ain't the "times"

2) considering the offers of sex the 4th grade aged son of friend gets subjected to on a regular basis by the girls in his class, the girls just might NOT be the VICTIM here.....

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:49 pm
by rednekkPH
LIPH wrote:I'm not a criminal lawyer, I was just throwing something out there.
Honestly, I have no idea, that was just the impression I was under.

Re: This is absolutely disturbing!

Posted: April 4, 2007 2:49 pm
by RinglingRingling
rednekkPH wrote:
LIPH wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:Buckley said it was unclear what penalties the children could face.
At the very least the boys should be charged with statutory rape. I don't know the law in Louisiana but I don't think the age of consent is 11.
I was always under the impression that one had to be over 18 to be charged with that, no?
depends on the state. Tho, one would think the relative closeness in ages, (2 year span) and all participants under the age of 18 would make it difficult for that one to stick against the boys. Saddest part of all this, after the fact that it happened in the first place, is that with the felony charge the story describes means that they all could be facing being put on the Registry of Sex Offenders.

Re: This is absolutely disturbing!

Posted: April 4, 2007 3:01 pm
by Brown Eyed Girl
LIPH wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:Buckley said it was unclear what penalties the children could face.
At the very least the boys should be charged with statutory rape. I don't know the law in Louisiana but I don't think the age of consent is 11.
17 for Lousiana, 16 for most states. Some are 18.

Here are the LA specifics:

LOUISIANA 17

Louisiana law allows prosecutors to seek the death penalty for people
convicted of having consensual sex with a person under 12 years old. The
Louisiana state Supreme Court declared the law constitutional in 1999
because of a 1977 U.S. Supreme Court ruling addressing the rape of an adult,
not a child. The U.S. Supreme Court in 1977 banned the death penalty for
raping adult women, but the justices did not say whether it could be applied
to child rapists. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the 1999 Louisiana
case, allowing the death penalty law to stand.

Posted: April 4, 2007 3:03 pm
by pbans
rednekkPH wrote:
LIPH wrote:I'm not a criminal lawyer, I was just throwing something out there.
Honestly, I have no idea, that was just the impression I was under.
I was curious, so I looked it up....age of consent in LA is 17....
Sexual intercourse with a child under the age of 13 is illegal regardless of the age of the defendant. There are some age difference formulas, but those are only figured on victims 14 and over.

This is a good article that has all of the state laws and reporting requirements.....

http://opa.osophs.dhhs.gov/titlex/statu ... _lewin.pdf

It will be an interesting case to watch......bizarre...and yes, a little disturbing