Enough is enough

chippewa · Post by **chippewa** » April 23, 2007 3:14 pm

I don't blame the media for reporting the news. I blame our society, in general, for allowing things like this to happen...time and time again. It seems the human race is determined to be it's own worst enemy. And how you fix that, I don't know.......

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » April 23, 2007 3:17 pm

chippewa wrote:I don't blame the media for reporting the news. I blame our society, in general, for allowing things like this to happen...time and time again. It seems the human race is determined to be it's own worst enemy. And how you fix that, I don't know.......

IMHO it's been going on since Aug 1, 1966

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » April 23, 2007 3:20 pm

ph4ever wrote:
chippewa wrote:I don't blame the media for reporting the news. I blame our society, in general, for allowing things like this to happen...time and time again. It seems the human race is determined to be it's own worst enemy. And how you fix that, I don't know.......

IMHO it's been going on since Aug 1, 1966

Was that the day Charles Whitman went up the UT tower?

Caribbean Soul · Post by **Caribbean Soul** » April 23, 2007 3:22 pm

ph4ever wrote:IMHO it's been going on since Aug 1, 1966

Good point ... and while I was too young at the time to take note of just where I was then ... even now I recal that Texas tower incident.

LIPH - Yes.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » April 23, 2007 3:47 pm

LIPH wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
chippewa wrote:I don't blame the media for reporting the news. I blame our society, in general, for allowing things like this to happen...time and time again. It seems the human race is determined to be it's own worst enemy. And how you fix that, I don't know.......

IMHO it's been going on since Aug 1, 1966
Was that the day Charles Whitman went up the UT tower?

yes

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » April 23, 2007 4:13 pm

you can try to call it personal security
you can try to hide behind the Second Amendment (do you honestly think it was designed for a society of millions?)
you can try to blame video games, but it comes down to this:

These kind of atrocities do not occur without HANDGUNS
It's guns that facilitate the loss of multiple lives

You wanna live by the sword, you can expect to die by the sword...

ejr · Post by **ejr** » April 23, 2007 5:12 pm

carolinagirl wrote:I disagree with the media being blamed. The media should not be a moral censor on the news and not report something because it would hurt someone's feelings. If that were the case, nothing would be reported. NBC did not air the entire content of the tapes and said they never would. It is relevant news that the guy sent the tapes to a media outlet and that much reported with a very brief sampling of the tapes. The coverage of the story has not offended me or outraged me because I can turn the TV off when I've seen enough.

I won't remember where I was when I heard about this, I suppose, because I was not as shocked as I was with other major events.

I would agree with all but the last statement, as I will remember first learning the news, and the feelings I had at that moment.

And, as for another's reference to Sago Mines, I will remind you, as I did at the time, that the press did not get the info wrong---the officials (note the word officials) who reported that misinformation to the town, the families, and the media.

I think there is a very fine line here, and, though I was not watching a lot of the coverage, I think NBC was right to show what they did. Anyone can choose to not watch it, but I do think it was appropriate to air it and to discuss the implications of the footage.

The media will go away---slower than they should, but they will. And they will be back--for graduation, and on many anniversaries to come. And though that may seem wrong to some of you, it is a way of making sure we never forget what can and did happen.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » April 23, 2007 7:05 pm

I'LL remember where I was when I heard the news of this act of evil.
I was sitting right here playing on my computer listening to the Rush Limbaugh radio show. He was who I heard it from.
YES, I listen to Rush Limbaugh, so STFU!

I also remember Aug. 1st 1966.
Well, okay, I didn't remember the exact date, but I definately remember when that C.S.er Whitman shot those people in Texas. I would've been 14.
It made an otherwise happy day for me very sad. (That was the day I bought the Beatles song "Yellow Submarine" on 45-I have the dates written down on all records I bought).

AND, maybe not many people remember this because "only" five people died, but in 1991, a foreign national attending college at the University of Iowa (across the street from where I now work) shot several people on the campus, killing five and wounding several others, and leaving one young lady paralyzed for life. It's been 16 years and SO FAR they haven't made a movie about it. Hopefully they won't.

I admit I didn't know where Blacksburg, VA was before last Monday, and, nothing against the town or it's dynamite people, but I wish to God I STILL never heard of the place.

Finally, last night at work I had the dubious distinction of being the one who put the flag in front of my building back up to full staff.
Talk about a CREEPY feeling.

Triathlete-Parakeet2 · Post by **Triathlete-Parakeet2** » April 23, 2007 7:07 pm

IMHO NONE of you can talk because NONE of you live or have lived in our great town. NOne of you know what its like here. I do really despise the media that hide behind their fake frowns and faux concerns. Yesterday and Monday we were in church, trying to heal. People were praying and crying during communion, and about 8 godd**N people with video cameras rushed in and started filming us. Totally insensitive, and the worst part, on the way out, they tried to in terview people. I beleive some pics of our church were in the NYT. Totally unwanted. The Inn @ VT was filled with huge sattleite trucks, about 100, until a out sunday. now their are less, but they are still here. I agree, this is not nearly as bad as 9-11, but that happened in NYC, a huge city. This happened in my town of Bburg, of about 35,000.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » April 23, 2007 7:13 pm

Triathlete-Parakeet2 wrote:about 8 godd**N people with video cameras rushed in and started filming us.

You're right-I WASN'T there, and ya know, that's probably a GOOD thing because had I been there and saw a bunch of insensitive a-holes with video cameras, I would've gotten up and whipped some SERIOUS a$$ right there in the church.

Meanwhile, F.W.I.W., you and your community continue to be in my prayers.

Triathlete-Parakeet2 · Post by **Triathlete-Parakeet2** » April 23, 2007 7:15 pm

Thanks so much for your kindnes, Gary.

Here's one of those pics.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2007/0 ... how_3.html

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » April 23, 2007 7:38 pm

Those pictures stir OUR emotions, but, as you stated, you'd think at an awful time like this those clowns would show a bit more sensitivity.
Sadly, it's all about ratings.

TommyBahama · Post by **TommyBahama** » April 23, 2007 7:47 pm

i went to a differtent church and Mass yesterday.....they had a Korean Priest...and his homely was about the VT killings....but what made it strange was he was making it sound more of a apology and that Koreans weren't like that.........after a while i was shaking my head wondering how this was relevant to what happened....it could of been any nationality and the fact of the matter was 33 innocent people died...will i remember what happened ...always...but will i remember where i was.......i doubt it...........i don't live close to the situation( but i feel for the families).............it wasn't a attack on America were every American was effected!!

Carolinadreamin' · Post by **Carolinadreamin'** » April 23, 2007 8:29 pm

Triathlete-Parakeet2 wrote:IMHO NONE of you can talk because NONE of you live or have lived in our great town. NOne of you know what its like here. I do really despise the media that hide behind their fake frowns and faux concerns. Yesterday and Monday we were in church, trying to heal. People were praying and crying during communion, and about 8 godd**N people with video cameras rushed in and started filming us. Totally insensitive, and the worst part, on the way out, they tried to in terview people. I beleive some pics of our church were in the NYT. Totally unwanted. The Inn @ VT was filled with huge sattleite trucks, about 100, until a out sunday. now their are less, but they are still here. I agree, this is not nearly as bad as 9-11, but that happened in NYC, a huge city. This happened in my town of Bburg, of about 35,000.

My son, Chris, said it seemed better today...he didn't see anyone shoving microphones into faces of the kids

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » April 23, 2007 8:59 pm

since you all know I have never been one to hide, I am not the original poster, besides that person said they had friends.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » April 23, 2007 9:07 pm

Lightning Bolt wrote:you can try to call it personal security
you can try to hide behind the Second Amendment (do you honestly think it was designed for a society of millions?)
you can try to blame video games, but it comes down to this:

These kind of atrocities do not occur without HANDGUNS
It's guns that facilitate the loss of multiple lives

You wanna live by the sword, you can expect to die by the sword...

then we gotta outlaw a bunch of stuff.. I can think of stuff I
can buy at the store and kill lots more pholks
in a shorter time..
knuckleheads will find a way..

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » April 23, 2007 9:09 pm

Triathlete-Parakeet2 wrote:IMHO NONE of you can talk because NONE of you live or have lived in our great town. NOne of you know what its like here. I do really despise the media that hide behind their fake frowns and faux concerns. Yesterday and Monday we were in church, trying to heal. People were praying and crying during communion, and about 8 godd**N people with video cameras rushed in and started filming us. Totally insensitive, and the worst part, on the way out, they tried to in terview people. I beleive some pics of our church were in the NYT. Totally unwanted. The Inn @ VT was filled with huge sattleite trucks, about 100, until a out sunday. now their are less, but they are still here. I agree, this is not nearly as bad as 9-11, but that happened in NYC, a huge city. This happened in my town of Bburg, of about 35,000.

yes but. and no one on BN knows this.. My Highschool was also
hit with a Hostage Situation in the 90's they lost a few pholks there
a teacher whom I knew his daughters.. so I have some Idea
about what went on..

PackPhanGirl · Post by **PackPhanGirl** » April 23, 2007 9:24 pm

MelliJellyBean wrote: I think there have been several signs erected around campus saying 'Media Go Home'. They really need to. Because the healing can't begin until they leave and stop covering this story. I want to know about the victims and remember them, but it sure doesn't help when you see a replay of this guy's face all over the news. That's exactly what he wanted!

Exactly...

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » April 23, 2007 9:27 pm

PackPhanGirl wrote:
MelliJellyBean wrote: I think there have been several signs erected around campus saying 'Media Go Home'. They really need to. Because the healing can't begin until they leave and stop covering this story. I want to know about the victims and remember them, but it sure doesn't help when you see a replay of this guy's face all over the news. That's exactly what he wanted!
Exactly...

read the Date..

http://www.knowgangs.com/school_resourc ... 1999/1.php

and the Local paper did a piece on the Lindhurst shootings
after the VT shooting..

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » April 23, 2007 9:31 pm

Honestly? I probably won't remember the actual date any more than I remember the dates of other horrible events (or heck, even most "good" events

) but I WILL always remember the event, and how far reaching its effects were.

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