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Before this becomes another Yankee-Red Sox thread, I am simply relaying an article I saw and this was on "Mike and Mike in the Morning" today too. Yanks lost that series so whether the sock was truly bloody or not isn't a big deal to me but just think it's funny and worth pointing out. There would be no value in Thorne ( who admittinlgy is a broadcaster for a division rival) saying to go Ask Mirabelli if it wasn't said or that atleast thorne thought it was said. Now that Mirabelli is back on the Sox ( it didn't say if it was a conversation when he was on them the first time or not or when he was out west) of course he is going to deny it if he did say it...anyway, here it is...



Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling's reputation was the target of an attempted hit from, of all places, the Orioles' television broadcasting booth. Gary Thorne, who does play-by-play of Orioles games on the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network (MASN) and has a solid national reputation, having done lots of work for ESPN, brought up the saga of Schilling's bloody sock during last night's telecast, according to the BOSTON GLOBE.

Thorne said on the air, while the Orioles were batting in the fifth, that he'd been told by Sox catcher Doug Mirabelli that was not blood, but paint, on the sock Schilling wore during Game 6 of the 2004 American League Championship Series against the Yankees. It was done for the public relations effect, Thorne said.

"The great story we were talking about the other night was that famous red stocking that he wore when they finally won, the blood on his stocking," Thorne said to broadcast partner Jim Palmer, the Hall of Fame pitcher, in a conversation that had begun with a discussion of Schilling's blog.

"Nah," Thorne said. "It was painted. Doug Mirabelli confessed up to it after. It was all for PR. Two-ball, two-strike count."

Palmer: "Yeah, that was the 2004 World Series [sic]." Thorne: "Yeah."

During a break two innings later, Thorne confirmed that's what he said, and that Mirabelli had told him so in a conversation "a couple of years ago."

"Go ask him [Mirabelli]," Thorne said.

Mirabelli was shocked, then angry, when relayed Thorne's comments.

"What? Are you kidding me? He's [expletive] lying. A straight lie," Mirabelli said. "I never said that. I know it was blood. Everybody knows it was blood."

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chippewa wrote:It's in the Hall of Fame. One simple test, and this can be wrapped up by dinner tonight, instead of dragging on for six weeks.
Yeah that's what Mike and Mike were saying...
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Re: Schilling's bloody sock called into question?

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job41475 wrote:Before this becomes another Yankee-Red Sox thread, I am simply relaying an article I saw and this was on "Mike and Mike in the Morning" today too. Yanks lost that series so whether the sock was truly bloody or not isn't a big deal to me but just think it's funny and worth pointing out. There would be no value in Thorne ( who admittinlgy is a broadcaster for a division rival) saying to go Ask Mirabelli if it wasn't said or that atleast thorne thought it was said. Now that Mirabelli is back on the Sox ( it didn't say if it was a conversation when he was on them the first time or not or when he was out west) of course he is going to deny it if he did say it...anyway, here it is...



Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling's reputation was the target of an attempted hit from, of all places, the Orioles' television broadcasting booth. Gary Thorne, who does play-by-play of Orioles games on the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network (MASN) and has a solid national reputation, having done lots of work for ESPN, brought up the saga of Schilling's bloody sock during last night's telecast, according to the BOSTON GLOBE.

Thorne said on the air, while the Orioles were batting in the fifth, that he'd been told by Sox catcher Doug Mirabelli that was not blood, but paint, on the sock Schilling wore during Game 6 of the 2004 American League Championship Series against the Yankees. It was done for the public relations effect, Thorne said.

"The great story we were talking about the other night was that famous red stocking that he wore when they finally won, the blood on his stocking," Thorne said to broadcast partner Jim Palmer, the Hall of Fame pitcher, in a conversation that had begun with a discussion of Schilling's blog.

"Nah," Thorne said. "It was painted. Doug Mirabelli confessed up to it after. It was all for PR. Two-ball, two-strike count."

Palmer: "Yeah, that was the 2004 World Series [sic]." Thorne: "Yeah."

During a break two innings later, Thorne confirmed that's what he said, and that Mirabelli had told him so in a conversation "a couple of years ago."

"Go ask him [Mirabelli]," Thorne said.

Mirabelli was shocked, then angry, when relayed Thorne's comments.

"What? Are you kidding me? He's [expletive] lying. A straight lie," Mirabelli said. "I never said that. I know it was blood. Everybody knows it was blood."


Dude, I am one of the biggest Sox fans out there. I was in the front row when Buffett broke the curse and I acutually believe he did . . . but that sock on Schilling was a joke. Come on . . . did anyone actaully believe he was playing on a bloody foot? First of all it is not allowed . . . second of all it is just completely ridiculous.
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What is the importance of blood being on a sock?
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buffettbride wrote:What is the importance of blood being on a sock?
Made it look like Schilling was such a HERO, pitching through unbelievable pain and trauma. Not enough drama in a World Series game, so they had to add more. The camera zeroed in on it several times each inning. In fairness to Schilling, he did have some sort of injury there. They sutured it up a couple of days before, I think he was just irritating the stitches.

I have this small scab on the inside of my ankle for years. Just when it almost heals, I bump it and I'm back to square one. It stings for about 5 seconds, then I'm over it. :roll:
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chippewa wrote:
buffettbride wrote:What is the importance of blood being on a sock?
Made it look like Schilling was such a HERO, pitching through unbelievable pain and trauma. Not enough drama in a World Series game, so they had to add more. The camera zeroed in on it several times each inning. In fairness to Schilling, he did have some sort of injury there. They sutured it up a couple of days before, I think he was just irritating the stitches.

I have this small scab on the inside of my ankle for years. Just when it almost heals, I bump it and I'm back to square one. It stings for about 5 seconds, then I'm over it. :roll:
see, if the Free Press had gotten wind of this last fall... :)
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chippewa wrote:
buffettbride wrote:What is the importance of blood being on a sock?
Made it look like Schilling was such a HERO, pitching through unbelievable pain and trauma. Not enough drama in a World Series game, so they had to add more. The camera zeroed in on it several times each inning. In fairness to Schilling, he did have some sort of injury there. They sutured it up a couple of days before, I think he was just irritating the stitches.

I have this small scab on the inside of my ankle for years. Just when it almost heals, I bump it and I'm back to square one. It stings for about 5 seconds, then I'm over it. :roll:
So baseball isn't exciting enough that people are stirring up stories about bloody socks?

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buffettbride wrote:
chippewa wrote:
buffettbride wrote:What is the importance of blood being on a sock?
Made it look like Schilling was such a HERO, pitching through unbelievable pain and trauma. Not enough drama in a World Series game, so they had to add more. The camera zeroed in on it several times each inning. In fairness to Schilling, he did have some sort of injury there. They sutured it up a couple of days before, I think he was just irritating the stitches.

I have this small scab on the inside of my ankle for years. Just when it almost heals, I bump it and I'm back to square one. It stings for about 5 seconds, then I'm over it. :roll:
So baseball isn't exciting enough that people are stirring up stories about bloody socks?

Sick CSI: Miami on their asses and we'll have this all sorted out.
I like the Red Sox, I love the World Series, but that game had me screaming "Enough already!" at the TV. I'm sure somehow Tim McCarver was involved. :lol:
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buffettbride wrote:What is the importance of blood being on a sock?

He was injured so it appered as a "Natural" type moment I guess. The validity of the stain has been called into question before but I just find it pretty funny. I am not a Schilling fan ( besides his Yankee beatdowns on both the Sox and DBacks) I have met him and just didn't get a great vibe from him personally so yes I guess I am biased but in this case I don't know if it's fake or not so I'll stay out of that...
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buffettbride wrote:
chippewa wrote:
buffettbride wrote:What is the importance of blood being on a sock?
Made it look like Schilling was such a HERO, pitching through unbelievable pain and trauma. Not enough drama in a World Series game, so they had to add more. The camera zeroed in on it several times each inning. In fairness to Schilling, he did have some sort of injury there. They sutured it up a couple of days before, I think he was just irritating the stitches.

I have this small scab on the inside of my ankle for years. Just when it almost heals, I bump it and I'm back to square one. It stings for about 5 seconds, then I'm over it. :roll:
So baseball isn't exciting enough that people are stirring up stories about bloody socks?

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Re: Schilling's bloody sock called into question?

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job41475 wrote: Now that Mirabelli is back on the Sox ( it didn't say if it was a conversation when he was on them the first time or not or when he was out west) of course he is going to deny it if he did say it...anyway, here it is...

During a break two innings later, Thorne confirmed that's what he said, and that Mirabelli had told him so in a conversation "a couple of years ago."
To set the time line. Thorne said Mirabelli said this to him a couple years ago. It was only a year ago (spring 2006) he was with the Padres. So presumably he was still with the Sox when this was said.

Schilling pitched two times with the bloody sock, game 6 of the ALCS against the Yankees and also during the World Series against the Card's. During the World Series game he also wrote K ALS (as in Strike Out ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease) on his shoe as he knew the cameras would be focused on it.


Lastly, why would Thorne wait a couple years to make this public?
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First, I am not a huge Schilling fan. I think he is a good pitcher and glad he is on the Red Sox but he is a self promoting loud mouth who's favorite topic to talk about is himself. There are 2 "I's" in Schilling, how appropriate.

Second, Doug Mirabelli has a reputation as being a complete A-Hole so I wouldn't be surprised if he did say that, weather he said it as a joke or was speaking the truth, who knows.

Third, from what I remember the "bloody sock" he wore during the Yankees game is gone, Schilling said he tossed the sock in the trash and has not seen it since, the "bloody sock" he wore in game 2 of the World Series is in the HOF.

Lastly, I don't think anyone is doubting that the fact he was able to pitch and pitch well in ALCS game 6 and WS game 2 with a sutured ankle was remarkable especially considering he has a 9 inch scar from the surgery he needed to have on that ankle at the end of the 2004 season. If he added fake blood to the sock in either one of those games then he has some serious issues.


But quite frankly, I really don't care if it was paint or blood, I just care about the end results. :D
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I hope they discover that it really is blood......but not Schillings. Conspiracy! :lol:
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The blood stain from the bloody sock that was sent to the HOF after game 2 of the WS turned brown/black according to a rep from the HOF indicating it would have been blood and not paint...but who really cares. It's the 2007 season, there's too much baseball ahead to look behind.
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BostonFins wrote:The blood stain from the bloody sock that was sent to the HOF after game 2 of the WS turned brown/black according to a rep from the HOF indicating it would have been blood and not paint...but who really cares. It's the 2007 season, there's too much baseball ahead to look behind.
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I still say there was as second shooter on that grassy knoll :lol:
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chippewa wrote:I hope they discover that it really is blood......but not Schillings. Conspiracy! :lol:
they'll use it to convict Bonds of 'roid use.. :D
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BostonFins wrote:The blood stain from the bloody sock that was sent to the HOF after game 2 of the WS turned brown/black according to a rep from the HOF indicating it would have been blood and not paint...but who really cares. It's the 2007 season, there's too much baseball ahead to look behind.

I agree. Just thought it was a funny story though....
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I don't think we heard the last of this. Gary Thorne is a very well respected announcer, I get the felling tonight we will here more.

For what it's worth, I get the feeling this type of injury would bleed.
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chippewa wrote:I hope they discover that it really is blood......but not Schillings. Conspiracy! :lol:
didn't Imus say it was Anna Nichol's ??? I dunno..
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