Prince Harry Stays Home - Iraq Too Dangerous

[creeky]

I politely and respectfully disagree. From what I have read (which holds about as much water in my opinion as Henry saying he wants to go - maybe that was honest, maybe not) he would have been protected within roughly a half mile radius and would not have been active field. If I am wrong then I am wrong. He could have been a great contributor within his role. If the danger level was assessed at being that high then I suppose people in charge made the decision they felt necessary. Again, I repsectfully disagree with it.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are incorrect when you say he would not have been "active field." If he's in Iraq, he's a target. It's virtually impossible to stop a dedicated suicide bomber. We have to get lucky every single day. They only have to get lucky once. There is no "safe" place in Iraq.

Kinda like trying to find a dry spot in the middle of a rain shower .. aint gonna happen ...... they were sending him to Basra (sp) ... dont believe that is all that safe ...

[Elrod]

But I do have to ask: have you ever served?

Why do you have to ask?

reminds me of someone on the dark side

Only 1 month and 6 days until you visit the snake?

My gosh! That's not very long!

[drunkpirate66]

I politely and respectfully disagree. From what I have read (which holds about as much water in my opinion as Henry saying he wants to go - maybe that was honest, maybe not) he would have been protected within roughly a half mile radius and would not have been active field. If I am wrong then I am wrong. He could have been a great contributor within his role. If the danger level was assessed at being that high then I suppose people in charge made the decision they felt necessary. Again, I repsectfully disagree with it.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are incorrect when you say he would not have been "active field." If he's in Iraq, he's a target. It's virtually impossible to stop a dedicated suicide bomber. We have to get lucky every single day. They only have to get lucky once. There is no "safe" place in Iraq.

When I first learned that there was potential for Harry to be deployed into Iraq I felt that he would go with some sort of more protected job and environment set up. My faith in the insurgents is minimal (dedicated, yes, but certainly not entirely tactical in thought) and I didn't feel that even though they talked loud about attacking or targeting Harry that they could actaully do it. They wouldn't necessarily know where he is to begin with let alone actually getting to him with one of their 1982 beat up Datsun Bombing Units . . . not sending him is almost (almost) like giving in. Besides, if the insurgents are stupid enough to annouce where they are going to attack (ie, where Harry is) then let them . . . and then kill them.

Side note - 25 years SGA! Wow! Impressed. Congratulations and thank you.

[ph4ever]

But I do have to ask: have you ever served?

Why do you have to ask?

reminds me of someone on the dark side

Only 1 month and 6 days until you visit the snake?

My gosh! That's not very long!

no it isn't

[drunkpirate66]

I politely and respectfully disagree. From what I have read (which holds about as much water in my opinion as Henry saying he wants to go - maybe that was honest, maybe not) he would have been protected within roughly a half mile radius and would not have been active field. If I am wrong then I am wrong. He could have been a great contributor within his role. If the danger level was assessed at being that high then I suppose people in charge made the decision they felt necessary. Again, I repsectfully disagree with it.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are incorrect when you say he would not have been "active field." If he's in Iraq, he's a target. It's virtually impossible to stop a dedicated suicide bomber. We have to get lucky every single day. They only have to get lucky once. There is no "safe" place in Iraq.

Kinda like trying to find a dry spot in the middle of a rain shower .. aint gonna happen ...... they were sending him to Basra (sp) ... dont believe that is all that safe ...

I agree. None of the troops are safe in Iraq. If I were still full time I would not sleep too soundly over there. I feel for all the troops and their families . . . even the more privledged.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

When I first learned that there was potential for Harry to be deployed into Iraq I felt that he would go with some sort of more protected job and environment set up. My faith in the insurgents is minimal (dedicated, yes, but certainly not entirely tactical in thought) and I didn't feel that even though they talked loud about attacking or targeting Harry that they could actaully do it. They wouldn't necessarily know where he is to begin with let alone actually getting to him with one of their 1982 beat up Datsun Bombing Units . . . not sending him is almost (almost) like giving in. Besides, if the insurgents are stupid enough to annouce where they are going to attack (ie, where Harry is) then let them . . . and then kill them.

Side note - 25 years SGA! Wow! Impressed. Congratulations and thank you.

Unfortunately, you're not giving the insurgents the credit they deserve. They're not stupid simpletons.... They've managed to kill a couple of dozen Americans in the last few weeks.

The people making the go/no-go decision on Prince Harry had far more information than any of us here, and they felt the situation was too dangerous if he were present.

It's not easy to find them and kill them before they get us. If it were, most of the Americans sitting in Iraq would have been home months ago.....

[SchoolGirlHeart]

Side note - 25 years SGA! Wow! Impressed. Congratulations and thank you.

Thank you.

[PHAW Webmistress]

My 2 cents:

If my keet has to go back I sure as hell wouldn't want that kind of high profile person (royalty or not!) anywhere near my son - his life would be in danger WITHOUT a bullseye! Do I think it's fair for the other sons and daughters (and Aunts, Uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, etc.) there? No-but I'd like to keep the "regular" folk as safe as we can so they CAN come home!

And before its asked - nope - I've never been in the military I'm just surrounded by them and I'm only speaking as a Mom of a soldier.

[ph4ever]

My 2 cents: What does it matter if someone is military or not? Is it that only military are entitled to opinions about this or any war?

[SchoolGirlHeart]

My 2 cents:

If my keet has to go back I sure as hell wouldn't want that kind of high profile person (royalty or not!) anywhere near my son - his life would be in danger WITHOUT a bullseye! Do I think it's fair for the other sons and daughters (and Aunts, Uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, etc.) there? No-but I'd like to keep the "regular" folk as safe as we can so they CAN come home!

And before its asked - nope - I've never been in the military I'm just surrounded by them and I'm only speaking as a Mom of a soldier.

A US Senator has a son in Iraq. The Senator refuses to answer any questions or make any comments on the subject, to protect his son and his son's unit.

[drunkpirate66]

My 2 cents:

If my keet has to go back I sure as hell wouldn't want that kind of high profile person (royalty or not!) anywhere near my son - his life would be in danger WITHOUT a bullseye! Do I think it's fair for the other sons and daughters (and Aunts, Uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, etc.) there? No-but I'd like to keep the "regular" folk as safe as we can so they CAN come home!

And before its asked - nope - I've never been in the military I'm just surrounded by them and I'm only speaking as a Mom of a soldier.

Tell yours thank you for their service. I understand your thought and mindset.

[creeky]

My 2 cents: What does it matter if someone is military or not? Is it that only military are entitled to opinions about this or any war?

2c is not legal tender in my country - so any 2c posts dont count

(and fwiw .... I agree with you)

[PHAW Webmistress]

My 2 cents: What does it matter if someone is military or not? Is it that only military are entitled to opinions about this or any war?

DaughterC - if your referring to my post I'm sorry that wasn't my intent - I was trying to "qualify" my statement - guess I shouldn't post when irritated huh?

[SchoolGirlHeart]

My 2 cents: What does it matter if someone is military or not? Is it that only military are entitled to opinions about this or any war?

Everyone's opinion counts, IMHO, but it sure sounded like dp66 had a different take on it....

[drunkpirate66]

When I first learned that there was potential for Harry to be deployed into Iraq I felt that he would go with some sort of more protected job and environment set up. My faith in the insurgents is minimal (dedicated, yes, but certainly not entirely tactical in thought) and I didn't feel that even though they talked loud about attacking or targeting Harry that they could actaully do it. They wouldn't necessarily know where he is to begin with let alone actually getting to him with one of their 1982 beat up Datsun Bombing Units . . . not sending him is almost (almost) like giving in. Besides, if the insurgents are stupid enough to annouce where they are going to attack (ie, where Harry is) then let them . . . and then kill them.

Side note - 25 years SGA! Wow! Impressed. Congratulations and thank you.

Unfortunately, you're not giving the insurgents the credit they deserve. They're not stupid simpletons.... They've managed to kill a couple of dozen Americans in the last few weeks.

The people making the go/no-go decision on Prince Harry had far more information than any of us here, and they felt the situation was too dangerous if he were present.

It's not easy to find them and kill them before they get us. If it were, most of the Americans sitting in Iraq would have been home months ago.....

I agree with all that except for the giving credit to the insurgents. The only credit I give them is, for complete head scratching lack of a better word, their dedication to kill themselves for whateve cause they think they are honoring. They do have that going for them and it is a tough battle because of it. How do you fight that what welcomes death? As far as any other type of credit I can't think of any. I aknowledge that they are not stupid . . . other than the killing themsleves in beat up Datsun's with C4 or whatever taped to the back seat . . . but they are, to me, just a bunch of school yard bullies with an agenda. I suppose that until we find a way to stop them (other than the obvious fixing their school systems and chlidren's television to not preach hate to non Muslims) they have our attention.

[ph4ever]

No Mom I'm not referring to your post but the initial questioning is what bothers me. Some former military act like if they are the only ones that are "entitled" to given an opinion. They wave their own banner as if they are more special than those that didn't serve.

We've had a past member that did that and it always turned my stomach. This member in particular acted as if he were the only one that supported our troops

and fwit - I've deleted 5 posts on this subject cause I'm irritated too

[drunkpirate66]

My 2 cents: What does it matter if someone is military or not? Is it that only military are entitled to opinions about this or any war?

Everyone's opinion counts, IMHO, but it sure sounded like dp66 had a different take on it....

No. That is inaccurate. 100% not true. I wouldn't spend time on these discussion boards if I didnot want to learn what other people think and discuss the fun topics as well as the more serious. It does not make any difference what your job is - I enjoy reading other's thoughts.

My asking if SGA was military was a question. Nothing more. It seemed as if she had detailed thoughts on the matter . . . if I were making a derogatory comment about those who have not served, like was implied, I would say something like, "well may be if you had served . . ."

[creeky]

No Mom I'm not referring to your post but the initial questioning is what bothers me. Some former military act like if they are the only ones that are "entitled" to given an opinion. They wave their own banner as if they are more special than those that didn't serve.

We've had a past member that did that and it always turned my stomach. This member in particular acted as if he were the only one that supported our troops

and fwit - I've deleted 5 posts on this subject cause I'm irritated too

I served ... and I dont think I am any more entitled ... in fact here in Australia - its totally ignored .....

For this subject- the Queen is our head of STate - Harry is her grandson - that is where I get all irritated when people post about it .....

[12vmanRick]

this dude must have French blood in him

[SchoolGirlHeart]

and fwit - I've deleted 5 posts on this subject cause I'm irritated too

3 here.....