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To Catch A Predator... on NBC!

Been on TV for a while, a great thing they do and great TV. A new episode aired the other night and repeats were on MCNBC tonight. Is there greater TV than this show?

Besides the fact I think Chris Hansen will one day be stabbed on TV- is great TV!

thanks...

ragtopW wrote:thanks...

No problem, as long as i don't see a guy in a Santa suit then...well i guess we are OK!

BottleofRum wrote:

ragtopW wrote:thanks...

No problem, as long as i don't see a guy in a Santa suit then...well i guess we are OK!

no way.. I like women.. but not...... lil girls..

ragtopW wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:

ragtopW wrote:thanks...

No problem, as long as i don't see a guy in a Santa suit then...well i guess we are OK!

no way.. I like women.. but not...... lil girls..

What is sad is the excuses these guys give..

I would love to be the guy who questions these guys..

ragtopW wrote:What is sad is the excuses these guys give..

I still say Chris Hansen will get stabbed or shot soon. I


can't believe people still get busted.

But the excuses are great.....

While there are predators out there attacking children, one should be concerned in how NBC NEWS fudges numbers and fuels hysteria. The show makes it look like there are predators at every turn. Aren't family members more likely to rape their children then these clowns getting horny on a chat?
I'm just saying this show may be doing good, in some sense, but keep in mind the methods used. The goal for Dateline is to make money and do it off the audiences' emotions.


Below is attributed to
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:gwT ... cd=1&gl=us


While the many men captured on film supposedly showing up to meet teens for sex is disturbing, questions have been raised about Perverted Justice’s methods and accuracy. (For example, the predators are often found in unmoderated chatrooms frequented by those looking for casual sex—hardly places where most children spend their time.) Nor is it surprising that out of over a hundred million Internet users, a fraction of a percentage might be caught in such a sting.
Because there is little hard data on how widespread the problem of Internet predators is, journalists often resort to sensationalism, cobbling a few anecdotes and interviews together into a trend while glossing over data suggesting that the problem may not be as widespread as they claim. But good journalism requires that personal stories—no matter how emotional and compelling—must be balanced with facts and context. Much of the news coverage about sexual predation is not so much wrong as incomplete, lacking perspective.

moog wrote:While there are predators out there attacking children, one should be also concerned in how NBC NEWS fudges numbers and fuels hysteria. The show makes it look like there are predators at every turn. Aren't family members more likely to rape their children then these clowns getting horny on a chat?
I'm just saying this show may be doing good, in some sense, but keep in mind the methods used. The goal for Dateline is to make money and do it off the audiences' emotions.


Below is attributed to
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:gwT ... cd=1&gl=us


While the many men captured on film supposedly showing up to meet teens for sex is disturbing, questions have been raised about Perverted Justice’s methods and accuracy. (For example, the predators are often found in unmoderated chatrooms frequented by those looking for casual sex—hardly places where most children spend their time.) Nor is it surprising that out of over a hundred million Internet users, a fraction of a percentage might be caught in such a sting.
Because there is little hard data on how widespread the problem of Internet predators is, journalists often resort to sensationalism, cobbling a few anecdotes and interviews together into a trend while glossing over data suggesting that the problem may not be as widespread as they claim. But good journalism requires that personal stories—no matter how emotional and compelling—must be balanced with facts and context. Much of the news coverage about sexual predation is not so much wrong as incomplete, lacking perspective.

sorry, Moog. I wish, that were true..... the 'net has become as much as babysitter as video games...

some parents have no clue where their just barely teenagers visit online. until the past murders of children were liked to myspace, few parents worried about what private information they were supplying online.

most were shocked beyond words when they discovered what personal information their teen had given the world to see.

Look at the number of abductions and murders, just this past summer.

I'd call it epidemic.

Give me the numbers of these abductions and murders from strangers over the last 20 years as a result of these chatrooms, not what the news reports. Is there an increase as a result of the net? Or is it just in our face more because the channels have 24 hours to fill? I don't know, but on the other hand I'm not making any claims. Dateline is.

I'm questioning the methods and data NBC news is using.
Which chatroom is Dateline using? Are any children in these particular chatrooms where they snag these predators? Dateline is part of the news division, and that's what should be added to their "investigations". NBC is blurring the entertainment division and the news division.

Again, most likely a child will be attacked by someone they know then meeting someone on a chat. Yes, some children will fall into the false security of a stranger that makes the child think the chatter is an adult that will understand the teen. But I think most teens over 13 or 14 are not as stupid or weak.

Here's a link to some stats that I was able to find......

US DOJ Stats

Even they state that it's a pretty small study......

I don't know about stats, but there is a ton of information available from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children

I had the privilege of going to some training on internet predators and online issues about five years ago.....it's an amazing organization.

Have to admit it is funny watching how these people react when "exposed".

pbans wrote:Here's a link to some stats that I was able to find......

US DOJ Stats

Response to that survey was done here: http://www.csicop.org/si/2006-05/panic.html Below attributed to this link. But even I shouldn't take this author's word. I should research the report myself and not rely on the media. A good research paper provides the sources and data used so the reader can check the numbers for thyself.

According to a May 3, 2006, ABC News report, “One in five children is now approached by online predators.” This alarming statistic is commonly cited in news stories about prevalence of Internet predators, but the factoid is simply wrong. The “one in five statistic” can be traced back to a 2001 Department of Justice study issued by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (“The Youth Internet Safety Survey”) that asked 1,501 American teens between 10 and 17 about their online experiences. Anyone bothering to actually read the report will find a very different picture. Among the study’s conclusions: “Almost one in five (19 percent) . . . received an unwanted sexual solicitation in the past year.” (A “sexual solicitation” is defined as a “request to engage in sexual activities or sexual talk or give personal sexual information that were unwanted or, whether wanted or not, made by an adult.” Using this definition, one teen asking another teen if her or she is a virgin—or got lucky with a recent date—could be considered “sexual solicitation.”) Not a single one of the reported solicitations led to any actual sexual contact or assault. Furthermore, almost half of the “sexual solicitations” came not from “predators” or adults but from other teens—in many cases the equivalent of teen flirting. When the study examined the type of Internet “solicitation” parents are most concerned about (e.g., someone who asked to meet the teen somewhere, called the teen on the telephone, or sent gifts), the number drops from “one in five” to just 3 percent.

moog wrote:Give me the numbers of these abductions and murders from strangers over the last 20 years as a result of these chatrooms, not what the news reports. Is there an increase as a result of the net? Or is it just in our face more because the channels have 24 hours to fill? I don't know, but on the other hand I'm not making any claims. Dateline is.

I'm questioning the methods and data NBC news is using.
Which chatroom is Dateline using? Are any children in these particular chatrooms where they snag these predators? Dateline is part of the news division, and that's what should be added to their "investigations". NBC is blurring the entertainment division and the news division.

Again, most likely a child will be attacked by someone they know then meeting someone on a chat. Yes, some children will fall into the false security of a stranger that makes the child think the chatter is an adult that will understand the teen. But I think most teens over 13 or 14 are not as stupid or weak.

I think they were using a Yahoo chat room; doubt they've been around for 20 years...:dunno:

some 13 and 14 yr. olds are about as naive as you get.

when an adult shows up at a childs home, male or female, after making a contact through an online chat room, after being informed said child by the same child that he/she is well below legal age....with an ample supply of condoms, alcohol and drugs, thinking they are going to alone with said child...

it might look like entrapment to some.

they should be trapped...........and shot.

Moog makes some good points here.

I am bothered by NBC exploiting these sick people for ratings. These people are very sick and need to be stopped but NBC doing some investigative "entrapment" is not the solution. I did watch the show once, it was like watching the movie Groundhog day.

If they really want to make it interesting, they should get real kids, and give the dad a gun when the predator shows up at the house.

There are problems with the way NBC is doing it though:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/ ... -Sting.php

Has anyone checked the registered sex offender database for their location lately?

Yes there are sickos out there - perverts. Always have been. As parents it's our JOB to do what we can to protect our children and as Moonie stated too many parents just aren't aware of their child's internet use.

There are some cases that could have been avoided had the parents been more involved. But also in the same case there are sickos out there like Terapon Adhahn that will just snatch a kid up off the street.

Sigh. This topic hits somewhat close to home for me. Turns out a religious official who married my wife and I was caught. It was aired a year or two ago. It was quite sad to see this man go through this on TV. I don't remember if he was convicted or not but he did lose his job (or resigned before he was fired).

While I don't deny what these people do is bad (ok, reprehensible), it makes me sad that this guy had to go through such a public humilation. Of course you could argue he put himself in the position to be caught. I just don't know if this stuff is TV appropriate. Then again, happy, feel good stories don't seem to sell as well, do they?