RinglingRingling wrote:
saw that too. The news stories talked about the method used at this mine, and why most companies in this country refuse to use that method (it creates situations like this more easily than other methods).
Had not heard anything about the owner tho, tho he has been getting a lot of face-time in front of the cameras.
There has been a lot of controversy over him the last few days.....same kinds of things swirling around in the media. I don't like him....just his demeanor.
Early on, my natural inclination was to give him the benefit of a doubt considering the situation, but the more he talks, the worse it gets. I am now thinking there is something he may be hiding. That industry has so much regulation, it is almost impossible for him to get away with anything illegal without accomplices from both the govt regulation and the union. Is this a union mine? Why has the UMW been silent? I have a very bad feeling about this whole situation.
Early on, there were reports that the mine had dozens of safety violations.
And, every geologist I have heard has refuted his claims of seismic activity in the area.
I haven't been following this closely, but I read an article that said the shift or whatever caused the collapse registered something like a 1.6 or 1.8 on the Richter Scale. Obviously, you can't normally feel that, but wouldn't that be considered seismic activity?
no. not if it came from inside the mine perimeter.. and they had similar activity at the same time as the cave-in yesterday. It's the mountain shifting it's weight to find equilibrium with the removal of support due to the mining technique.
exactly. The mine is not stable for anyone to go in there now. Unfortunately, it seems this mine, might end up being a tomb.
This Murray guy is shady and once the investigation begins, he WILL be caught.
Just read today that now they're saying that A) They may give up on trying to find them and B) They're getting reading to resume operations in other parts of the mine.
Classy.
Take me for what I am, a star newly emerging.
I accept the new found man, and I set the twilight reeling.
popcornjack wrote:Just read today that now they're saying that A) They may give up on trying to find them and B) They're getting reading to resume operations in other parts of the mine.
Classy.
yeah, I wondered about that....too dangerous to search, but not too dangerous to mine......I KNOW it's probably different areas, but it just doesn't sit well with me.
Paige in Utah
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Breathe in, breathe out, move on"
pbans wrote:Please continue to keep these pholks in your thoughts and prayers.....looking even more grim these days.
Did find out that HippieJen has some very personal connections to miners that were lost......so remember her specifically, too!
from the most recent email I got from her:
"I would like to continue to ask that we all keep our thoughts with the families of the trapped miners and families of the rescue miners who have lost loved ones or are dealing with injuries. These men are heroes and as a community we need to come together to help them heal. If you have any thoughts or suggestions regarding how our club can help, let me know. I was contacted by the Salt Lake Parrot Head club concerning this tragedy; they wanted to know what they could do to help. As we all know, Zion’s bank is accepting donations on behalf of the families, but parrot heads throughout Utah want to know what they can do. Many of us simply do not know, we are all still trying to comprehend it all."
pbans wrote:Please continue to keep these pholks in your thoughts and prayers.....looking even more grim these days.
Did find out that HippieJen has some very personal connections to miners that were lost......so remember her specifically, too!
from the most recent email I got from her:
"I would like to continue to ask that we all keep our thoughts with the families of the trapped miners and families of the rescue miners who have lost loved ones or are dealing with injuries. These men are heroes and as a community we need to come together to help them heal. If you have any thoughts or suggestions regarding how our club can help, let me know. I was contacted by the Salt Lake Parrot Head club concerning this tragedy; they wanted to know what they could do to help. As we all know, Zion’s bank is accepting donations on behalf of the families, but parrot heads throughout Utah want to know what they can do. Many of us simply do not know, we are all still trying to comprehend it all."
Wasatch Mtn PHC is in the very beginning stages of putting something together.....I'll post anything more that I hear.....
Paige in Utah
"Don't try to shake it, just nod your head
Breathe in, breathe out, move on"
popcornjack wrote:Just read today that now they're saying that A) They may give up on trying to find them and B) They're getting reading to resume operations in other parts of the mine.
Classy.
yeah, I wondered about that....too dangerous to search, but not too dangerous to mine......I KNOW it's probably different areas, but it just doesn't sit well with me.
and if they continue to use the same technique, it's within the realm of possibility that it will happen again without a full review of safety precautions.
and yet they are complaining that the report on the situation was done by career fed investigators. sounds like the Feds' findings put the weight of the disaster on the mine owner and his practices, not sure why the folks mentioned in the article as dissatisfied are?
