Page 4 of 4

Posted: September 3, 2007 5:18 pm
by RinglingRingling
tikiwoman wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
tikiwoman wrote:Wow dissing Kenny and Bon Jovi in one thread :D I usually have to post on Greasy Lake, my Bruce board for this abuse :D

I know Bon Jovi aren't Bruce just as Kenny is not Jimmy but fans of the more "credible" act can still enjoy the light version, that was the point I was trying to make.

Val
but why? I don't smoke Macanudo cigars when I can enjoy a Gurkha Fuerte X; I don't eat tofu if I can get a steak; and I don't drink Landshark if even Olympia is available... :D
Ah, but I love filet mignon but can enjoy a cheeseburger, even if not in paradise. If better is available fine, but other options can be satisfying as well. And sometimes, a cheeseburger is a really good thing :D

Val
cheeseburgers are good... but you have to admit, a flavourless cheeseless burger or a nice, thick, juicy steak... the latter wins every time. :)

Posted: September 3, 2007 8:01 pm
by tikiwoman
RinglingRingling wrote:
SMLCHNG wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote: but why? I don't smoke Macanudo cigars when I can enjoy a Gurkha Fuerte X; I don't eat tofu if I can get a steak; and I don't drink Landshark if even Olympia is available... :D
Maybe cause Val just enjoys what she enjoys, son. :wink:
well, she is from Joisey.. so what can I say? :D
Hm, maybe what exit? :D :D :D

Val

Posted: September 3, 2007 9:25 pm
by HsvParrothead
Crazy Navy Flyer wrote: Well said, it's nice to see some common sense on the subject. I've been a PH since the early 70's in KW, followed JB all along, never been a huge country fan but I gotta say my favorite all time album is "Be as You Are".
Thank you my bubba!
I may not be as colorful as Andrew Dice Clay (inside joke w/Steve... ATL '06, had to be there) but on rare occasion I still feel the need to contribute some worthy insight to this place :lol:

BTW - What in the hell were we all thinking last year by standing under that tent in that heavy lightning?!?!? Oh wait.. we had been drankin'.. nevermind! Grape Bombs will do that to a group! :wink:

Posted: September 3, 2007 10:11 pm
by C-Dawg
HsvParrothead wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:you might think it cheesy but it's Chesney. Nicole and I had a great time at Kenny's concert. Nothing like Buffett to us, nothing to compare. Totally different styles that view the island life/style a different way.
Yup! Totally agree with my brutha from anotha mutha here!

And whether the majority of folks on this site agree with it or not.. he IS the top grossing country act on tour AGAIN this year.. and no, it's not because of his ticket prices (The top avg. price this year goes to Tim & Faith with a face value in the low $90's.. where as KC's avg. is in the mid $60's.. yet, he leads the Summer numbers by a spread of $10.1 million above Tim & Faith in 2nd place.. granted he started in mid-April and Soul2Soul began in early June) so... point being, he's doin' something right!!! He's a younger performer with a younger fan base.. and knows how to target and perform to that demographic.. which is all those screaming women mentioned. You might not realize it, but the target demographic for country radio is females age 25-40. As for the volume, bigger arenas = bigger sound! It's impossible to balance the sound level for all in attendance when your playing the biggest stadiums/arenas in the country!

Guitar skills? I was skeptical of what level of acoustic player he was as well.. because in an acoustic set you really strip away all the glitz, production effects/enhancements and glamor to see the artist in a more natural & truest form. When you set up on a lone stool with just you and an acoustic guitar you can really separate the artist from the wanna be's. When Chesney played down here on the island at Hogs Breath.. I took the time to catch a portion of an all acoustic show and man, he's legit! My co-writer and I were especially critical in our critique when he played our bar the next night with his full band. While his band took a break he did another acoustic set, with us standing 6ft away, where he played a good 8-10 songs (a much longer acoustic set than you get on his regular tour) with just him and his Takamine and neither one of us found anything to truly speak negatively on.. there was no doubt remaining, he's the real deal.

As for the t-shirt cannons... Buffett doesn't own that gimmick.. in fact, a lot of acts do it and have been doing it for years. Just thinking in terms of other country artist, right off the top of my head.. Gretchen Wilson, Dierks Bentley, Big & Rich, Rodney Atkins.. hell, I think Garth even use to do it before he retired from the stage back in 2000.

Side Note: Also, someone mentioned something along the lines of KC having a sub-par voice and not quite measuring up to JB in vocals... son, you need your ears checked! Bubba's NEVER had a "great" voice! He's a Great songwriter, but an average vocalist! I mean, he's not tone deaf but he's definately not one to be considered for his polished vocals. Even when I was the most die hard PH, I never considered him to have great vocal ability. Sorry, but it's just my true opinion. Just my .02

Then again... pay no mind to me.. I'm a lil bias after working at Buffett Ground Zero for waaaaaaaay too long!! :lol: No, Seriously! :o

SIDE NOTE: As for the pirate? That pirate was Shawn Silva.. one of the biggest music video directors out there today. They filmed it while they were down here in The Keys for Kenny's "Keg In The Closet Tour". Cruzan Rum made a good choice when they chose to sponsor the man.. hell of a partnership. Did you ever notice that the original lyrics for "Old Blue Chair" he sings 'Malibu and diet' ... that was before the Cruzan sponsorship and the "Be As You Are" album version!


I just hate seeing these type of threads on here.. it's part of the reason I stopped coming around this site! I never gave Chesney a chance initially because of all the "wannabe" name calling threads I had always seen on here when I first started posting over three years ago. Then in 2005 my buddy Jamie (fellow BNer) starting pushing his music onto me.. and I gave it a chance.. and guess what.. all the parrothead naysayers were dead wrong! He's a hell of an artist! Hell, his music is actually the reason I got back into country music after several years of stepping away from it. When I first started songwriting during the divorce, the stuff I wrote was crap.. the motivation and message were true but the way I was trying to say it wasn't. Because I was trying to be another Buffett. Finally, I had to get true to myself and my roots.. next thing I knew my writing really matured and I found the style to be country.. it's just what naturally flowed when I stopped trying to be somebody I wasn't. Sadly, it took moving to an island to discover I'm a southern hillbilly! :lol: But thank God I did.. because now I'm off that island, on a layover back home for now and moving to Nashville in November!

My point is... if it wasn't sincere and true then KC wouldn't be able to perform and present it to the level that he does each and every night! And if it didn't feel real, then those audiences would NOT buy into it.

Second point is.. THERE IS A WHOLE WORLD OF MUSIC OUT THERE OUTSIDE OF JIMMY.. open your ears and give it a chance for Gods sake! It blows my mind how some people on here will worship singers like Sunny Jim, Jim Morris and the likes.. yet, will label certain others as "wanna be's"... I also dare say that the discrimination factor is often influenced mainly in part by the "wanna be's" level of success (which implies jealousy on certain fans part)!! Just a thought..
Kinda hypocritical dontchathink? :roll:

Bottom line is this.. Music is about expression and connecting with others. It may not always suit your taste and you may not always "agree" per se with the execution.. but the motivation behind it is always the same. To connect with an audience and touch other people lives. So it's best to at least try to respect all forms, styles, genres or artist for the simple fact that they are out there doing that. Granted, all of them may not necessarily connect with each and every one of us.. but there is always someone listening to a lyric and saying, "I feel the same way!" Or maybe they're simply being moved to the beat of the instrumental.. either way, they're connecting.. and that's what it's all about!
Well Put. Couldn't have said it better myself!
C-Dawg

Posted: September 4, 2007 12:27 pm
by Crazy Navy Flyer
HsvParrothead wrote:
Crazy Navy Flyer wrote: Well said, it's nice to see some common sense on the subject. I've been a PH since the early 70's in KW, followed JB all along, never been a huge country fan but I gotta say my favorite all time album is "Be as You Are".
Thank you my bubba!
I may not be as colorful as Andrew Dice Clay (inside joke w/Steve... ATL '06, had to be there) but on rare occasion I still feel the need to contribute some worthy insight to this place :lol:

BTW - What in the hell were we all thinking last year by standing under that tent in that heavy lightning?!?!? Oh wait.. we had been drankin'.. nevermind! Grape Bombs will do that to a group! :wink:
Lightning? What lightning? :lol: :lol: Musta been the white lightning we were drankin' :lol: :lol:

Posted: September 9, 2007 9:01 pm
by horseyparrot
Obviously I love JB. There's my disclaimer.

Saw KC in concert, I had a great time. It was a while ago, but I've always liked him. THe thing I remember most from the concert though, was my one best friend who corrupted my other best friend.....it was the "No Shoes, No shirt, No problems" tour.....and when KC would mention that, my crazy friend would scream "Take it off!!!!" much to my more demure friend's dismay. It was freakin' hilarious. We tried telling her he was bald, but she said he didn't need to take off the hat for what she had in mind. :o She still believes she'll marry him one day.

As far as artists, you can't compare apples and oranges. KC is much more country than JB, and JB is much more island-y. Really, KC just gives hicks like me a way to wear less clothing and seem cooler than we probably are. LOLOL.
Actually, I wouldn't compare KC to a "younger JB" at all. But, that's probably because I've listened to him all along; his old stuff was more country-ish. You don't see JB singing about tractors, and that's only as it should be, too!!!

Val--it's okay, it's just the geography. It would be un-philly-an and un-jersian to not like either bon jovi or the Boss. I don't see how anyone from the surrounding geography can honestly say there isn't at least ONE song by both that they like!!!! :D

Posted: September 9, 2007 9:03 pm
by horseyparrot
Griz--sorry you didn't have a good time at the concert. Sometimes, it doesn't matter how good someone is.....a bad setup or too much volume can ruin any concert. I hate when that happens.

Posted: September 10, 2007 7:21 am
by britparrothead
I like Kenney Chesney, BUT, he is desperate to BE Jimmy BUffett. [smilie=nope.gif] I M H O

Posted: September 10, 2007 4:38 pm
by popcornjack
Not that anyone asked, but......

reading this thread made me think of how much I like professional wrestling. I'll watch it tonight, much more than MNF. Yeah, I know it's fake, and yeah, I know that I'm probably one of, if not the only, a very few number of people here who do like it. You know why that is?

because we are all different people.

I have my opinions, you have yours, everyone else has their own. Some of them may be shared by a lot, some may be shared by a few, some may not be shared at all. You know why?

because we are all different people.

I like Chesney's music, and it's obvious that JB has been an influence on him, just like he has on lots of other people. That's what happens in the music business. Artists influence other artists. Sometime it's out of respect, sometimes it's out of similar tastes, and sometimes (unfortunately) it's out of a desire to make a fast buck.

What really blows my mind, though, is, for a group of people that likes to think their nice and kind and warm and loving and here to help each other (and I think these things to be true) a lot of people spend a lot of time tearing down others. I'm not saying that we all have to be blind cheerleaders for everyone, but it seems there is somewhat of a lack of respect for other people's opinion. It's like my mom always said:

If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

The original poster went to a concert and wanted to relate his experience, for better or worse, and the thread quickly turned. Quite frankly, I have enough in my own life I am working on improving. I don't have time to waste pointing out anyone else's flaws. Something about removing the log from my eye before I take the splinter out of yours....

Chesney

Posted: September 12, 2007 11:30 pm
by jimmyismykrustytheclown
Its a little late

I have seen him twice

This time with Sugarland and Pat Green> I thought he was ok harmless you know do i have the new album yes. And I Like Be as you are and no shoes no shirt no service..

Posted: September 13, 2007 8:43 am
by Hooray Beer!
popcornjack wrote:Not that anyone asked, but......

reading this thread made me think of how much I like professional wrestling. I'll watch it tonight, much more than MNF. Yeah, I know it's fake, and yeah, I know that I'm probably one of, if not the only, a very few number of people here who do like it. You know why that is?

because we are all different people.

I have my opinions, you have yours, everyone else has their own. Some of them may be shared by a lot, some may be shared by a few, some may not be shared at all. You know why?

because we are all different people.

I like Chesney's music, and it's obvious that JB has been an influence on him, just like he has on lots of other people. That's what happens in the music business. Artists influence other artists. Sometime it's out of respect, sometimes it's out of similar tastes, and sometimes (unfortunately) it's out of a desire to make a fast buck.

What really blows my mind, though, is, for a group of people that likes to think their nice and kind and warm and loving and here to help each other (and I think these things to be true) a lot of people spend a lot of time tearing down others. I'm not saying that we all have to be blind cheerleaders for everyone, but it seems there is somewhat of a lack of respect for other people's opinion. It's like my mom always said:

If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

The original poster went to a concert and wanted to relate his experience, for better or worse, and the thread quickly turned. Quite frankly, I have enough in my own life I am working on improving. I don't have time to waste pointing out anyone else's flaws. Something about removing the log from my eye before I take the splinter out of yours....
AMEN