2007/2008 MLB Hot Stove

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » December 6, 2007 11:23 am

I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » December 6, 2007 11:26 am

LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."

The rumor us the Mets want Willis.

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » December 6, 2007 11:29 am

LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."

so in the last three years the Tigers trade away 3 of the top 25 best young pitchers in baseball and will end up with nothing to show for it in 2008 but a fat slow 3rd basemen and an over the hill DH who can barely stay healthy.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 6, 2007 12:01 pm

drunkpirate66 wrote:
LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."
so in the last three years the Tigers trade away 3 of the top 25 best young pitchers in baseball and will end up with nothing to show for it in 2008 but a fat slow 3rd basemen and an over the hill DH who can barely stay healthy.

Jon, you are the only person in the world who thinks Cabrera is a "fat slow 3rd baseman". Most people think he's pretty darn good.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 6, 2007 12:02 pm

BottleofRum wrote:
And Scott Boras takes another hit, he claimed that there were several 4 year offers for Jones but he was looking for a 5 year deal, then he signs a 2 year deal.

I think they realize that because of his bad year this season, his earning capacity was down. They are counting on a couple of good years, then they will ask for A-Rod money.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 6, 2007 12:04 pm

ConchRepublican wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:Giants are mulling an offer from Toronto....Alex Rios for Tim Lincecum.
How recent is that? I had heard Rios for Lincecum and Matt Cain.
I think Metsblog had it as Rios for Lincecum or Cain.

Apparantly the Giants want to keep Cain more than Lincecum
Looks like the Reds want Rios, too. May be considering throwing Homer Bailey to the Jays

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 6, 2007 12:04 pm

Hideki Matsui to the Giants?

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » December 6, 2007 12:06 pm

BottleofRum wrote:
LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."
The rumor us the Mets want Willis.

He'd be cheaper than Santana, he's younger and it would add another bat to the lineup on the days he pitches.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 6, 2007 12:14 pm

LIPH wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."
The rumor us the Mets want Willis.
He'd be cheaper than Santana, he's younger and it would add another bat to the lineup on the days he pitches.

At least they wouldn't be forced to take a "slow, fat third baseman" as part of the deal, like Detroit was. Bet the Tigers are wondering how they'll ever dump that guy.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 6, 2007 12:23 pm

Nationals have signed Aaron "freakin" Boone

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » December 6, 2007 12:25 pm

CaptainP wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."
so in the last three years the Tigers trade away 3 of the top 25 best young pitchers in baseball and will end up with nothing to show for it in 2008 but a fat slow 3rd basemen and an over the hill DH who can barely stay healthy.
Jon, you are the only person in the world who thinks Cabrera is a "fat slow 3rd baseman". Most people think he's pretty darn good.

no everyone knows that he is fat and slow. those are facts. he is also pretty good. that is a fact, too.

also a fact . . . can't have enough starting pitching. Detroit had 3 of the best. Now they don't. That is stupid; that is a fact.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » December 6, 2007 12:27 pm

drunkpirate66 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."
so in the last three years the Tigers trade away 3 of the top 25 best young pitchers in baseball and will end up with nothing to show for it in 2008 but a fat slow 3rd basemen and an over the hill DH who can barely stay healthy.
Jon, you are the only person in the world who thinks Cabrera is a "fat slow 3rd baseman". Most people think he's pretty darn good.
no everyone knows that he is fat and slow. those are facts. he is also pretty good. that is a fact, too.

also a fact . . . can't have enough starting pitching. Detroit had 3 of the best. Now they don't. That is stupid; that is a fact.

You're a poopyhead. That's a fact.

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » December 6, 2007 12:29 pm

CaptainP wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."
so in the last three years the Tigers trade away 3 of the top 25 best young pitchers in baseball and will end up with nothing to show for it in 2008 but a fat slow 3rd basemen and an over the hill DH who can barely stay healthy.
Jon, you are the only person in the world who thinks Cabrera is a "fat slow 3rd baseman". Most people think he's pretty darn good.
no everyone knows that he is fat and slow. those are facts. he is also pretty good. that is a fact, too.

also a fact . . . can't have enough starting pitching. Detroit had 3 of the best. Now they don't. That is stupid; that is a fact.
You're a poopyhead. That's a fact.

I would like to see stats and a source on that . . . before I agree or disagree . . .

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » December 6, 2007 1:10 pm

CaptainP wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
LIPH wrote:I was watching the news this morning while I was getting ready to leave for the train station. They showed an interview with Jim Leyland at the winter meetings and his cell phone rang while he was talking. His ringtone is "Sweet Caroline." You'd think he'd have some classic Motown instead of a Red Sox song.

BTW, the NY Daily News is reporting the Tigers may be thinking of trading Willis already because of "payroll limitations."
so in the last three years the Tigers trade away 3 of the top 25 best young pitchers in baseball and will end up with nothing to show for it in 2008 but a fat slow 3rd basemen and an over the hill DH who can barely stay healthy.
Jon, you are the only person in the world who thinks Cabrera is a "fat slow 3rd baseman". Most people think he's pretty darn good.

It is pretty well knows that Cabrera is not a very good defensive third-baseman. I wouldn't be suprised to see him playing first in the not so distant future.

Hoosier PH · Post by **Hoosier PH** » December 6, 2007 2:21 pm

CaptainP wrote:
ConchRepublican wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:Giants are mulling an offer from Toronto....Alex Rios for Tim Lincecum.
How recent is that? I had heard Rios for Lincecum and Matt Cain.

Looks like the Reds want Rios, too. May be considering throwing Homer Bailey to the Jays

P, Where did you hear this? I just cant see the Reds trading pitching to get hitting, much less another outfielder. The Reds desperately need pitching.

ConchRepublican · Post by **ConchRepublican** » December 6, 2007 2:31 pm

KBME in Houston is reporting that the Astros are close to acquiring SS Miguel Tejada from the Orioles for SS Adam Everett, 2B Chris Burke and a pitcher.

Hoosier PH · Post by **Hoosier PH** » December 6, 2007 2:47 pm

Hoosier PH wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
ConchRepublican wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:Giants are mulling an offer from Toronto....Alex Rios for Tim Lincecum.
How recent is that? I had heard Rios for Lincecum and Matt Cain.

Looks like the Reds want Rios, too. May be considering throwing Homer Bailey to the Jays
P, Where did you hear this? I just cant see the Reds trading pitching to get hitting, much less another outfielder. The Reds desperately need pitching.

Nevermind I found it. That move would make no sense for the Reds.

chippewa · Post by **chippewa** » December 6, 2007 2:56 pm

Saw that clip with Leyland's phone playing "Sweet Caroline" too. I thought today's headline would be Sox-Tigers Swap Managers

SuperTrooper · Post by **SuperTrooper** » December 6, 2007 3:16 pm

Yankees are shopping Hideki Matsui to the Giants. Trying to pry lefty Noah Lowry from SF. Decent NL ERA (3.92) but WHIP is 1.551, pitching in MLBs worst offensive division. SO to BB ratio is 1:1. Not a good match for the AL East.

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » December 6, 2007 3:36 pm

SuperTrooper wrote:Yankees are shopping Hideki Matsui to the Giants. Trying to pry lefty Noah Lowry from SF. Decent NL ERA (3.92) but WHIP is 1.551, pitching in MLBs worst offensive division. SO to BB ratio is 1:1. Not a good match for the AL East.

Do you have a link?

I think Matsui has a no-trade clause but you would think he would waive it to go to SF.

I wonder if this means they will go for another OF like Aaron Rowand.