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popcornjack wrote:I posted a reply, mostly because I like the sound of my own voice but I agree with Lightning Bolt. Ain't anything I haven't heard before, including here.

How do you hear what you type?

I've personally had direct problems with Jimmy Buffett and his corporate crappy antics (more specifically, his lawyers, and they were on the losing end), but that's neither here nor there. I love the music and the shows, so I spend my money accordingly.

What is absolutely laughable about this moronic post is...welll...everything!!! There are probably 5 bazillion musicians/groups/etc. that I don't listen to or care about at all. So what am I supposed to do? Examine each one and come up with reasons to justify not liking them?? Maybe start going in depth about what's wrong with 'The Backstreet Boys,' for instance? Nope. I just simply don't listen to them. I mean, who cares if someone likes them? Should that p*** me off or something?

Seems that this keyboard thumping idiot simply hates Buffett and is looking for attention in his fractured world. I can't help but wonder what kind of rage he feels when his mom plays her Lawrence Welk albums. Does he go into a tirade about why that music sucks?? Haha.

Oh, and I find his list of 'worst' songs laughable for a very simple reason. Our country alone has, what, 300 million people in it now? Every single individual has different tastes from the next. There are so many songs from many artists that I love that other people completely dismiss...and vice versa. Out of this idiot's list, I enjoy some and skip others, but I can guarantee there are a ton of people who love most or all of them. Each one of those songs has many, many takers, guaranteed. Different strokes and all.

As an aside, though, I find it funny this jerko includes 'The Handiest Frenchman In The Caribbean.' That song is really part of a soundtrack, for lack of a better term. Part of a lavish musical and less than a minute long. It's not like it was released as a single or anything. God, that just makes me giggle at his stupidity.

That's my 2 cents. Oh, I forgot to mention, Buffett's music is empirically good. Know why? He has untold legions of fans, therefore there's gotta be something good there. Oh, wait, that was the type of thing being said in Germany during the 30's and early 40's. Never mind.

Love me, Love MY Buffett....

No , not really...but I DO see points here. Good and bad. ANd for what it's worth, I love Jimmy for what he is...a funny little man who can tell a story to music. (Oh, and his tequila!)

jimolliemom wrote:Love me, Love MY Buffett....

No , not really...but I DO see points here. Good and bad. ANd for what it's worth, I love Jimmy for what he is...a funny little man who can tell a story to music. (Oh, and his tequila!)

I think that "love" might be a bit strong for how I feel about his tequila.

How about "willing to hook up with on a short-term basis if the price is right?"

ParrotHead Elm wrote: Oh, wait, that was the type of thing being said in Germany during the 30's and early 40's. Never mind.

HAIL JIMMY!!!

Honestly though I love Jimmy and his music but does that mean I have to buy everything he pushes? No, if you're gullible to enough to purchase everything you fav singer/actor/athlete is selling then you're not your own person. Like I said I love Jimmy's music, his tequilla is decent so I get that when I can but I'll never put down money on Landshark (got lucky someone bought one at a concert for me so I've never paid for one) or spend $400 on a chair for my patio. Just a personal thing, but everyone who is famous is trying to cash in on their name and this guy would to if given the chance.

TropicalTroubador wrote:There's a very good reason why Heinz has 57 varieties and Baskin-Robbins has 31 flavors: Everybody likes something different. And that's okay.

Yep.

I like what I like and if we don't agree? Fine.

I've seen Jimmy 14 times since 1996 - and that's enough for me. It's been a great ride. I actually enjoy the likes of Sunny Jim, et all, these days.

Posted: December 11, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: Counter attack

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"Sunday, December 9, 2007
Can the Bald Still Beachcomb?
It’s a shame how original concepts and ideas get diluted over time. How either the originator or the imitators turn a passion into a theme. Turning something creative into something laughable. That’s how I feel about the music of Jimmy Buffett, among other baby-boomer performers. Buffett was once a seaside poet. A beach bumpkin. A southern philosopher. Today he is just a character. Playing the same tired songs and producing new music that has the depth of a shallow grave. In fact, Buffett has only put out a few things worth listen to since I’ve had the ability to appreciate music. Maybe I want more for my money? I don’t want to buy something simply because it’s on sale. Without question, there are swarms of people that do. Swarms that put on their plastic props and their pseudo-tropical costumes and dig every song Buffett can muster. Is it a concert or a convention? It’s suppose to be entertainment. And entertainment is not art. At least, not always. And art is not always entertainment. I believe some people will never know the difference between the two. The same people that think McDonald’s sells cheeseburgers. It feels good to let loose, and Buffett’s shows certainly provide an arena for that. But letting loose and creating a faux view of paradise are two different things. I guess, I really became disagreeable with Buffett when I heard him hawk his Landshark lager as part of a song during a live performance. He didn’t add a new verse instead he added a sales pitch. Buffett isn’t an artist anymore. He is a salesman. Similar to several of the lame-ass baby-boomers of the world. Tryin’ to sell us their diluted things. Hoping we will invest in their plastic paradise. That seems to be the baby-boomer way--no substance. Resting on their laurels. Well, that’s not good enough for me. I’m not buying into the watered-down, middle-aged hacks’ bull. It’s time for the baby-boomers to take a back seat and rest their tired dissipation. We don’t need entertainment for the sake of entertainment. I’m tired of reruns. The same old is the same old no matter what box it’s in."


Well I guess that about covers it. Some good points for sure. Maybe there's just something about a guy who really can't sing that well that pulls us into the party. Because that's really all the concerts are. Like you, I prefer the earlier music from the heart, like the Jane songs. I was in Margaritaville a year or so ago to buy a tee shirt (I do like those for the beach.) Anyway, there's a lady in line right in front of me at the counter. The cashier asks if she can help her and the lady asked her where the children's versions of Jimmy's songs were. Something came over me and I told her that I thought all his songs were children's songs. She and the cashier both laughed. The lady said, "I know but without the bad words." Maybe that says something about the newer stuff. There's nothing wrong with that though. You either enjoy it or you don't.

Tampa Joe wrote:This is my first post here so I may not even be qualified to respond but I'll try. I never gave his music a second thought until my wife became interested about a year ago. Then a few months ago I bought two tickets on e-bay to the Nov 3rd show, her 50th birthday and his last show of the season. We flew down to Tampa and visited the Margaritaville cafe in Orlando where she spent several hundred dollars on Jimmy merchandise, had lunch in the Margaritaville cafe, had a conversation with JD the Sirius radio dj before driving to the fairgrounds for the concert. In short we were fully immersed and indoctrinated into the enormous money making machine that is Jimmy Buffett.
Then we arrived at the concert site, 4 hours before showtime, thinking we would be very early...as many of you know, trying to explain a Jimmy Buffett tailgate party without having ever been there is near impossible. But it is here that the true meaning of what his music is about becomes evident. We spent the next 3 hours meeting hundreds of people in various states of dress and undress with their portable tiki bars complete with beach sand transported in some cases hundreds of miles, purposely to help create this unique atmosphere of good times and good friends. We were hooked.
Jimmy Buffett will be the first to admit, and he did that very night, that he is as surprised as any of his detractors, as to the enormity and fealty of his following. You're left with the impression that this is a man who falls to his knee every night and thanks the man above for his unbelievable good fortune, and who takes none of it for granted. Maybe that above what most judge as mediocre talent, is what endears us most to him.

Believe me you are just as qualified to speak your mind on a issue here as the one who writes thousands of posts. that is quite possibly the biggest misconception on this buffett news website is that the more posts someone writes here as in thousands or tens of thousands posts. lol some how makes them have more knowledge than others on buffett related issues. nothing could be further from the truth. most people simply read the posts or news and that is it. don't let the namecallers or the people who post thousands of posts here brow beat you. you are just as smart. and qualified. to speak.

TropicalTroubador wrote:

jimolliemom wrote:Love me, Love MY Buffett....

No , not really...but I DO see points here. Good and bad. ANd for what it's worth, I love Jimmy for what he is...a funny little man who can tell a story to music. (Oh, and his tequila!)

I think that "love" might be a bit strong for how I feel about his tequila.

How about "willing to hook up with on a short-term basis if the price is right?"

I don't think "like" even covers it for me.

Welcome, Tampa Joe.....well said !!!

That blogger is jealous of Jimmy's money, his fun life, OUR fun lives, the baby boomers' busy productive lives, not 'getting' it, etc. Just let him go .....bless his heart.

Meaningless blog before link from BN - 12 hits
Meaningless blog after link on BN - 340 hits

Useless blogger thanks you for visiting.

heh heh. I didn't go to his link, just read it on the first post here.
He11 hath no fury like a pizzed-off BN'r.

SMLCHNG wrote:

TropicalTroubador wrote:There's a very good reason why Heinz has 57 varieties and Baskin-Robbins has 31 flavors: Everybody likes something different. And that's okay.

Yep.

I like what I like and if we don't agree? Fine.

I've seen Jimmy 14 times since 1996 - and that's enough for me. It's been a great ride. I actually enjoy the likes of Sunny Jim, et all, these days.

Sunny Jim is way cool. Very nice man, with some very enjoyable music, and extremely supportive to newer songwriters in the genre like myself.

SharkOnLand wrote:

popcornjack wrote:I posted a reply, mostly because I like the sound of my own voice but I agree with Lightning Bolt. Ain't anything I haven't heard before, including here.

How do you hear what you type?

I talk to myself.

popcornjack wrote:

SharkOnLand wrote:

popcornjack wrote:I posted a reply, mostly because I like the sound of my own voice but I agree with Lightning Bolt. Ain't anything I haven't heard before, including here.

How do you hear what you type?

I talk to myself.

are you sure it's you talking and not "the voices"?

jimolliemom wrote:Love me, Love MY Buffett....

No , not really...but I DO see points here. Good and bad. ANd for what it's worth, I love Jimmy for what he is...a funny little man who can tell a story to music. (Oh, and his tequila!)

...and his oh so cute little black glasses!!!!!!!!

Since my site was kindly visited "at random" by members of this forum...I thought I'd listen in on the discussion to see what all hoopla was about.

And I'm somewhere below the spotlight
Somewhere below the ground
You dig deep enough you might find me
Find me, and you've found my sound--Brahma Fear

In Response To Counter Attack (Who attacked in the first place?):

Dear Parrothead Nation,

I applaud most of you for realizing the real spirit of my post. I’ve appreciated JB’s music since I was a kid. Even though I wasn’t even born when his first major label record came out. He’s a true original. Maybe I just expect more. Even these days. And honestly, I do think he’s become predictable. I’m certainly not jealous of Buffett’s money. I’ve lived in Florida my whole life, and have taken advantage of my fair share of snowbirds lookin’ for paradise. But I’ve never shown them a plastic paradise. I guess there will always be people like Tampa Joe that prefer to do as described,“…visited the Margaritaville cafe in Orlando where she spent several hundred dollars on Jimmy merchandise, had lunch in the Margaritaville café…”, rather than spend the same money to seek out the original “Cheeseburger in Paradise” just down the road, or better yet, visit an actual island. But that’s fine…everyone is different Some people's paradises are outside of an amusement park, and some create their own amusement parks. I admit, I once stopped at that Margaritaville Café in Orlando walking from Universal Studios to my hotel…I prefer the cheaper drinks at Bob Marley’s. Indeed, it’s all about personal preference…not thinkin’ like the flock. Regardless, I’m not condemning anyone. Well, maybe. How many plastic collector’s cups can one person own? Ask yourself, “Is it about the daiquiri?” or “Is it about the cup the drink comes in?” Anyway, I’m certainly not against having fun, or against other people having fun, or Buffett on the whole…I’m just thinkin’ out loud. I’m thinking of all these enthusiastic people gathering to watch one man that’s no longer in the crowds…and for the most part… out of reach. Maybe I think more praise should go to the creative Buffett fans…rather than to just Buffett himself. True Parrotheads understand “difference of opinion”--that’s as close to Margaritaville as one can get. That’s what creativity is all about! Hearing genuine thoughts like popcornjack’s is a breathe of fresh Caribbean air. After all, it’s what makes you feel good in this life that matters. Life is just a tire swing, and if you swing high enough, you can see over the fence. Thanks Parrotheads! Thank You! You’re pleasantly enthusiastic people--the people my parents warned me about!

Where to get the original Cheeseburger in Paradise (so close to my house, I may go tomorrow):

http://www.cabbagekey.com/

More than bald beachcombing (I did change “Worst Buffett songs to read “Buffett Songs Written in an Obvious Hurry”):

h[url]ttp://southofdisorder.blogspot.com/[/url]

From Worst to Best:

My 9 Favorite Buffett Songs Not In The "Big 9"

1.The Captain and the Kid
2. Brahma Fear
3. Wino and I Know
4. Mañana
5. Boat Drinks
6. Migration
7. The Weather is Here, Wish You Were Beautiful
8. I Love The Now
9. I Have Found Me a Home

Oh, I must thank someone…

Thank You Pierre…You Just Might Be: “The Handiest Frenchman in the Honolulu”. Posted on my blog by Pierre: “Go bury yourself in a hole. You're a pathetic collection of dysentery amoeba undeservedly contained in a human shell.”--And I’m the supposed miscreant? You would think living on an island, one would not be so angry? Maybe Pierre lost his beach ball? Or his bounce?
Now I'm not one to deal in gossip
But was he that big of fool?
To do a belly buster high dive
And miss the entire pool?
Yes I think he was…watch the bounce in the board Pierre.

Well, Merry Christmas to all, and yes, I know it's JB's Birthday.

Welcome to BN Bakin Rapscallion! I think you might just fit in here...... You know..."if we weren't all crazy...we would go insane!"

Buffett has a unique ability to draw in people from multiple generations and I think some original followers have a problem with that fact. Jimmy simply realizes that times change and he adapts his music in a way which either pokes fun at how this society is turning, or draws an emotional connection with it (Breathe in, Breathe Out, Move On).

I am 20 years old and I cannot give a valid opinion on Buffett in the 70's. I do agree that I think his quality of work was better, but I think many people simply think so because they are the original phlock. If Jimmy never adapted to the times unlike many other performers, he would have his 1970's following and them alone.

I am extremely grateful that this man found his way into my life. There all negatives about everyone, and we can find flaws in change which dissapoint us. But I will never forget how Jimmy Buffett made me feel at 11 years old. Yes! 11! I was splashing in a pool at the time of one of my first Florida vacations ever. It was a beautiful, balmy Floridian day and the sun was about to set behind the palms which lined poolside. The resort had a live Buffett tribute band, which I had no idea at the time who this man was, but I have never experienced a feeling similar to the way that music made me feel that day. It is unexplainable. It wasn't your typical 'Margaritaville', they played old, they played new, and it all appealed to me.

My point, we have all felt something similar to this and we must hold on to our OWN meaning of paradise. For some it may be about the party, for others serenity, and another the past. This is what links us all together. Some where there's that passion within us, and that is what shouldn't change throughout all else that may..

God bless, finns up.

I wish Cabbage Key was the inspiration for the "cheeseburger" song...I also live in PARADISE....North Captiva Island to be exact...right below Cabbage Key...and yes, Jimmy has been there and played there...Jimmy has said that the inspiration came from a visit to Tortola, after a long rough sailing adventure. I have sat with with his good friend from St. Barts, Marius, owner of the bar Le Select, at Select many times and can confirm this fact, in fact, Select uses the name "Cheeseburger in Paradise" in exchange for a lifetime free bar tab. Jimmy bought a home last year in Gustavia on St. Barts and in fact, I think I saw his Caravan on the ramp at the airport this morning.....see ya, time to play!!