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Oooh!! Bunnies! I've got some!

LIPH wrote:To put it bluntly, who give a $hit about his political views?

Actually, I do, just as i care about his environmental views, his musical views, and any others he cares to reveal...they are all part of understanding this very interesting and complex man.

And while I understand why he doesnt launch into political diatribes at concerts, I dont object at all to the occasional mention of issues he cares deeply about.....even if i dont agree with him on one or another....I'd much rather listen to and consider his views than to those of most other public figures, though I'd guess he is somewhat more politically conservative than I.

And...he has been very cautious about 'promoting' his views for many years, no doubt out of consideration for his fans...I think at this advanced point in his career, if he is so inclined, he should just let it all hang out...say what he thinks....I'd say he has earned that right by now. And each of us is perfectly free to consider or ignore those views.

say what you mean...mean what you say...

Oh, wrong thread!!

We recently went to a Stevie Wonder concert...thinking to myself on the way to the concert...wow, this is going to be great. Stevie Wonder! Looking back on when I was a little nappy headed boy...Isn't she lovely...etc...etc. He was 20 minutes late getting to the concert...his daughter performed first, he went into a rant of "I believe this and I believe that about the war, and on and on with his liberal views...the audience got quiet and people began to leave, Raliegh is a very conservative city...we actually left an hour into the show, paid $100 for tickets too, but I will be darned if I am going to pay that kind of money to hear his political stance. I came to hear the music . He didn't finish a song, he would start and get the audience to participate and then just bailed out of it. Pretty religious too. I know he is getting up there in age, but I was very disappointed he used his concert to as a soap box for his political views. Don't push it on me. I am old enough to make my own decisions.

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Mary Queen of Shots wrote:We recently went to a Stevie Wonder concert...thinking to myself on the way to the concert...wow, this is going to be great. Stevie Wonder! Looking back on when I was a little nappy headed boy...Isn't she lovely...etc...etc. He was 20 minutes late getting to the concert...his daughter performed first, he went into a rant of "I believe this and I believe that about the war, and on and on with his liberal views...the audience got quiet and people began to leave, Raliegh is a very conservative city...we actually left an hour into the show, paid $100 for tickets too, but I will be darned if I am going to pay that kind of money to hear his political stance. I came to hear the music . He didn't finish a song, he would start and get the audience to participate and then just bailed out of it. Pretty religious too. I know he is getting up there in age, but I was very disappointed he used his concert to as a soap box for his political views. Don't push it on me. I am old enough to make my own decisions.

Catch&Release wrote:Garry makes the statement that out of "a black, a hispanic and a b****" Dodd is the only "regular American" and you're inferring that I am the divisive one in this thread? His post sounded like a redneck's description of several of the candidates. Based on what he posted it 100% sounded like Garry's analysis of 2 of the 4 candidates he mentioned, O'Bama and Richardson, is that they should be dismissed as candidates because of their being "A BLACK" and "A Hispanic". That's not a prejudiced way of looking at the issue?

What part of I'M CAUCUSING FOR OBAMA didn't you understand?

Plus, describing Hillary Clinton as "a b****" - who's being divisive?

You can give her a belly rub if YOU want to. I'll stand by my "SHE'S A B*TCH" statement.

Catch&Release wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Catch&Release wrote:Garry,

With comments like that, it's no wonder that Iowa is "flyover country".
Sounds like unless someone is a "regular American" (whatever that is) they're subject to lynching in the Hawkeye State.

I'm sure Garry doesn't need any help defending himself, but that's some leap in logic to take his post and twist it into advocating lynching.

edit: I notice you deleted the post telling Garry and Skibo to run on the KKK ticket. Funny how people on the right are the ones always being vilified for being divisive.

Larry,

Garry makes the statement that out of "a black, a hispanic and a b****" Dodd is the only "regular American" and you're inferring that I am the divisive one in this thread? His post sounded like a redneck's description of several of the candidates. Based on what he posted it 100% sounded like Garry's analysis of 2 of the 4 candidates he mentioned, O'Bama and Richardson, is that they should be dismissed as candidates because of their being "A BLACK" and "A Hispanic". That's not a prejudiced way of looking at the issue?

Plus, describing Hillary Clinton as "a b****" - who's being divisive?

Garry's closed minded attitudes and lack of thought in describing Presidential candidtates exemplify why, other than its spot in the sun during the caucus, Iowa is "flyover" country. Who would want to spend time in such a closed minded place if Garry is the State spokesman.

Garry wasn't the one who used the term "lynching" in his post. Garry wasn't the one who said 2 posters should consider running on the KKK ticket in 2012. Yes, you're the one being divisive here. Garry was voicing his opinion, he wasn't attacking anyone here because of their opinion. You were the one who did that.

I don't know you from a hole in the wall, I've known Garry for almost 7 years. I've met him several times, hung out with him, tailgated with him. Does he lean to the right? Sure he does. Is he outspoken about how he feels on issues? Yes he is. Is he a racist? Hell no. I think you owe both Garry and Skibo an apology for the KKK comment.

Down around Biloxi wrote:Well as one of those so called news people in your great state let me first remind you that we weren't the people that had to move the caucus's up to the 3rd of Jan. Just so you could have the honor of being first to decided who will be our next president, or maybe it was the fact that you all didn't want to lose a ton of money that the press brings into to your great state. This being my fifth caucus I would be totally happy to start off some where down south. To give you all an idea this morning at six o'clock it was one degree (without the wind chill factor)as we headed out for our shoot. With all that a side let be the first to thank you for totally screwing my Christmas and New Years. After spending a week and a half here in Iowa I managed to arrive home on Christmas Eve only to leave on the 26th, I'm still here and it looks like I may make it home on Friday. Oh and one other thing you folks need to learn how to drive, never in my life have I've seen so many cars and trucks in ditches. I've personally driven over a thousand miles in this state, and when I leave this business I'm planning on opening a tow truck operation!

YEP!
You're right on the money!
I decided after the last presidential election that all future Hawkeye Cawk-eyes would be held the first week of January JUST SO I could screw your Christmas up. It was completely MY doing. I want those political twerps here SO badly that I went way out of MY way just to be able to have THEM and YOU here at the same time. I have absolutely nothing better to do during the holidays than to try to screw it up for YOU.
I'm really sorry you don't like the weather here either. But, contrary to popular belief, I'm not exactly having multiple orgasms over the -17 degree wind chills either. My prayers for global warming have been going unanswered for 56 years and 1 week now.
But perhaps the wise words from some of the political twerps who are gracing us with their presence AND THE NEWSPEOPLE (who are free to get the f--k out of here anytime) will warm things up a little.

Thanks, Larry.

SKIBO a racist???

Just because he's supporting HUCKABEE?
Now THAT'S almost funny. Almost.

"Lean to the right?"

I thought Gary fell all over the right a LONG time ago.... and in his wildest dreams he fell RIGHT on top of Ann Coulter.

I've seen him list a little, I've never seen him fall down.

LIPH wrote:I've seen him list a little, I've never seen him fall down.

Me neither.

Blame it on the Corona.

And Ann Coulter. (She's a teriffic lady, but WAY too liberal for my liking).

Wino you know wrote:Blame it on the Corona.

And Ann Coulter. (She's a teriffic lady, but WAY too liberal for my liking).

Huffington?

LIPH wrote:I don't know you from a hole in the wall, I've known Garry for almost 7 years. I've met him several times, hung out with him, tailgated with him. Does he lean to the right? Sure he does. Is he outspoken about how he feels on issues? Yes he is. Is he a racist? Hell no. I think you owe both Garry and Skibo an apology for the KKK comment.

Please no apology for me. I find it amusing that the liberals are the first to accuse republicans of being racist. Democrats quickly forget which party ended slavery. They also seem to forget which party passed the civil rights legislation of the 1960's. They also forget that it was the southern democrats that founded the KKK. They tend to ignore Robert Byrd's involvement in the KKK. They fought hard in an attempt to keep an honorable black man off the Supreme Court with lies. Through out history republican presidents have had more diverse staffs than the democrat presidents.

Some other tidbits.
-Every single African-American in Congress, House and Senate, until 1935 was a Republican.
-The first black governor in Louisiana was a republican (1872)
-Republicans led the fight for women’s voting rights -- and the Democrats, as a party, opposed civil rights for women. All of the leading suffragists -- including Susan B. Anthony, Lucretia Mott, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton -- were Republicans. In fact, Susan B. Anthony bragged, after leaving the voting booth, that she had voted for “the Republican ticket -- straight.”
-An early Republican leader, Salmon P. Chase, earned the nickname “Attorney General of Fugitive Slaves” for defending runaway slaves.
-Republican civil rights advocates also used the courts to advance a colorblind vision of America. Thus, it was Republican Justice Harlan who dissented from the “separate but equal” ruling of Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), declaring that “our Constitution is colorblind.” This became the rallying cry of the NAACP in its later battles to undo the segregation imposed on the South by the Democratic Party.
-During the 1920s, the Ku Klux Klan arose again as a national force. Republican presidents Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge denounced KKK violence and supported a federal anti-lynch law, which passed the Republican House before repeatedly dying in the Democrat-controlled Senate.
-Continuing through the 1930s and 1940s, when Franklin Roosevelt refused to have pictures taken with blacks, the Republican Party called for desegregation of the military, antilynching laws, and the right to vote. Furthermore, while FDR sent Japanese Americans to internment camps, a conservative newspaper chain denounced this violation of civil rights, as did the influential black conservative George Schuyler.

Black and native American history are two of my greatest interests. You can call me racist if you wish, but if you look at my background, my charitable contributions, my history as an employer and my wife, you would have a very difficult time making that racist tag stick.

Take some time sometime and try to help improve the life of someone that doesn't have it as good as you, not by the hit and run method of just throwing money at them, but mentor a disadvantaged child, offer employment to someone that isn't from your pearly white neighborhood, purchase products made by minority owned enterprises. Some of your bitterness might go away.

Wino you know wrote:

Down around Biloxi wrote:Well as one of those so called news people in your great state let me first remind you that we weren't the people that had to move the caucus's up to the 3rd of Jan. Just so you could have the honor of being first to decided who will be our next president, or maybe it was the fact that you all didn't want to lose a ton of money that the press brings into to your great state. This being my fifth caucus I would be totally happy to start off some where down south. To give you all an idea this morning at six o'clock it was one degree (without the wind chill factor)as we headed out for our shoot. With all that a side let be the first to thank you for totally screwing my Christmas and New Years. After spending a week and a half here in Iowa I managed to arrive home on Christmas Eve only to leave on the 26th, I'm still here and it looks like I may make it home on Friday. Oh and one other thing you folks need to learn how to drive, never in my life have I've seen so many cars and trucks in ditches. I've personally driven over a thousand miles in this state, and when I leave this business I'm planning on opening a tow truck operation!

YEP!
You're right on the money!
I decided after the last presidential election that all future Hawkeye Cawk-eyes would be held the first week of January JUST SO I could screw your Christmas up. It was completely MY doing. I want those political twerps here SO badly that I went way out of MY way just to be able to have THEM and YOU here at the same time. I have absolutely nothing better to do during the holidays than to try to screw it up for YOU.
I'm really sorry you don't like the weather here either. But, contrary to popular belief, I'm not exactly having multiple orgasms over the -17 degree wind chills either. My prayers for global warming have been going unanswered for 56 years and 1 week now.
But perhaps the wise words from some of the political twerps who are gracing us with their presence AND THE NEWSPEOPLE (who are free to get the f--k out of here anytime) will warm things up a little.

Ouch boy you really told me off...Unlike my friend Wino you Know, most people of Iowa take the electing a president fairly seriously. They take the time out of their day and visit most if not all the candidates. They are well educated and do their homework before they vote. I would have to assume that Wino has no interest in attending the caucus's, which would be just fine with me since the country is in enough trouble as it is without his help.

I'll say this ONE MORE TIME, and, since you're in the news business, I'll assume you can read AND comprehend.

I'M CAUCUSING FOR OBAMA!

oops.... I thought this thread was about JB's political views...... I must have been mistaken..... but then, JB mostly keeps his views pretty quiet.....






see, threads like this are why politics is generally a bad idea on non-political boards.... just my 2 cents.... that and a dollar might get you a small cofffee... back to the MSC....

Mary Queen of Shots wrote:We recently went to a Stevie Wonder concert...thinking to myself on the way to the concert...wow, this is going to be great. Stevie Wonder! Looking back on when I was a little nappy headed boy...Isn't she lovely...etc...etc. He was 20 minutes late getting to the concert...his daughter performed first, he went into a rant of "I believe this and I believe that about the war, and on and on with his liberal views...the audience got quiet and people began to leave, Raliegh is a very conservative city...we actually left an hour into the show, paid $100 for tickets too, but I will be darned if I am going to pay that kind of money to hear his political stance. I came to hear the music . He didn't finish a song, he would start and get the audience to participate and then just bailed out of it. Pretty religious too. I know he is getting up there in age, but I was very disappointed he used his concert to as a soap box for his political views. Don't push it on me. I am old enough to make my own decisions.

Not THAT big of a Stevie Wonder fan, and I did know he was playing here in Raleigh, but declined on the tickets...

Any other good things you can share about the show??? Especially thinking about the music...