Global Warming - MUST READ!

jbfins · Post by **jbfins** » December 30, 2007 9:04 am

I just finished a book called "Cool It - The Skeptical Environmnetalist's Guide to Global Warming" by Bjorn Lomborg.

If you want to be informed about the current climate crisis, then you must read this book. It is only 164 pages long, and extremely easy to read. The arguments are clearly and logically presented.

johnson2113 · Post by **johnson2113** » December 30, 2007 7:54 pm

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » December 30, 2007 8:45 pm

no one is going to change the way they live . . . I have met so many people who claim to be "environmental" but they still take unnecessary flights for vacations and shower 10 times a week and keep their homes at 72 degrees and drive non hybrid cars or not car pool . . . sure the book is great . . . but it just doesn't matter. People won't change. And they won't have to for a long time so nothing will be different.

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » December 30, 2007 9:57 pm

In three years, I predict the chicken littles will be claiming the next ice age is coming.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » December 30, 2007 10:15 pm

Every night I pray for global warming.

V-town Fin Truck · Post by **V-town Fin Truck** » December 30, 2007 11:15 pm

I don't remember where I read it, but someone once said "I don't know which is more arrogant- thinking that we could change this, or thinking that we could cause it". Referring to global warming, and the general state of the planet.

I have a couple efficient lightbulbs. But the fin truck gets 8 miles per gallon on a good day.

jbfins · Post by **jbfins** » December 31, 2007 6:50 am

Read the darn book. Trust me, it is not the same thing as Al Gore's movie.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » December 31, 2007 6:57 am

drunkpirate66 wrote:they still take unnecessary flights for vacations

The plane flights I made the past few years MAY be unnecessary, but, from what I understand, Amtrak doesn't go to Honolulu for some reason.

and keep their homes at 72 degrees

NO WAY!!!
I keep mine at 78.
You don't want me to freeze to death, do you?
well, maybe you do

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » December 31, 2007 11:26 am

drunkpirate66 wrote:no one is going to change the way they live . . . I have met so many people who claim to be "environmental" but they still take unnecessary flights for vacations and shower 10 times a week and keep their homes at 72 degrees and drive non hybrid cars or not car pool . . . sure the book is great . . . but it just doesn't matter. People won't change. And they won't have to for a long time so nothing will be different.

you have to start out small...as in recycling what you can...

there are those that claim to be green and never recycle even aluminum cans...

change can't and won't happen overnight....you can't save the world in 24 hrs...

hells bells, some people still litter.

haven't we all seen people throw their trash from fast food joints out the window....

Garry, it WAS 78 degs. outside here, just this week, actully about 81, ....but I'll tell you in the summer, gotta have that a/c when it's 98 degs. and 110 humidity...

AlbatrossFlyer · Post by **AlbatrossFlyer** » December 31, 2007 11:49 am

Skibo wrote:In three years, I predict the chicken littles will be claiming the next ice age is coming.

please refer to the article in the 1975 Scientific American magazine....

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » December 31, 2007 12:05 pm

Speaking of Sci Am...Why is there no mention of this PENDING CRISIS?

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » December 31, 2007 12:12 pm

Moonie wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:no one is going to change the way they live . . . I have met so many people who claim to be "environmental" but they still take unnecessary flights for vacations and shower 10 times a week and keep their homes at 72 degrees and drive non hybrid cars or not car pool . . . sure the book is great . . . but it just doesn't matter. People won't change. And they won't have to for a long time so nothing will be different.
you have to start out small...as in recycling what you can...

there are those that claim to be green and never recycle even aluminum cans...

change can't and won't happen overnight....you can't save the world in 24 hrs...

hells bells, some people still litter.

haven't we all seen people throw their trash from fast food joints out the window....

Garry, it WAS 78 degs. outside here, just this week, actully about 81, ....but I'll tell you in the summer, gotta have that a/c when it's 98 degs. and 110 humidity...

Oh please . . . live how you want. I do. I don't care if you keep your home at 88 degrees and cyt down trees for fun . . .

The point is . . . I have never met anyone who claims to be an environmentalist (and I am not one . . . not even close . . . ) who is actually an environmentalist . . . I know there are a few out there but I have never met one . . . and it really annoys me when people claim to be "all about the environment" but still fly for nothing more than to get away from the cold . . . or use big oil/ gas chugging trucks who don't need them for work . . . or have big boats with big motors but claim they are environmentalists . . . as long as you don't claim to be one . . . live however you want!

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » December 31, 2007 12:23 pm

drunkpirate66 wrote:
Moonie wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:no one is going to change the way they live . . . I have met so many people who claim to be "environmental" but they still take unnecessary flights for vacations and shower 10 times a week and keep their homes at 72 degrees and drive non hybrid cars or not car pool . . . sure the book is great . . . but it just doesn't matter. People won't change. And they won't have to for a long time so nothing will be different.
you have to start out small...as in recycling what you can...

there are those that claim to be green and never recycle even aluminum cans...

change can't and won't happen overnight....you can't save the world in 24 hrs...

hells bells, some people still litter.

haven't we all seen people throw their trash from fast food joints out the window....

Garry, it WAS 78 degs. outside here, just this week, actully about 81, ....but I'll tell you in the summer, gotta have that a/c when it's 98 degs. and 110 humidity...
Oh please . . . live how you want. I do. I don't care if you keep your home at 88 degrees and cyt down trees for fun . . .

The point is . . . I have never met anyone who claims to be an environmentalist (and I am not one . . . not even close . . . ) who is actually an environmentalist . . . I know there are a few out there but I have never met one . . . and it really annoys me when people claim to be "all about the environment" but still fly for nothing more than to get away from the cold . . . or use big oil/ gas chugging trucks who don't need them for work . . . or have big boats with big motors but claim they are environmentalists . . . as long as you don't claim to be one . . . live however you want!

AAaaahahahahahah gotta little angst in you life, there dp66...

'cause you haven't met one...means they don't exist, perhaps...

although, I, personally, do not:

fly for nothing more than to get away from the cold . . . or use big oil/ gas chugging trucks who don't need them for work . . . or have big boats with big motors

don't drive a hybrid simply because what I have is paid for and at the present time can't afford a newer one.

you do not have to claim to be an environmentalist to be environmentally conscious

The Lost Manatee · Post by **The Lost Manatee** » December 31, 2007 2:55 pm

I would like to say Thank you for JBFins suggestion to read this book. It is a very good read and certainly raises some very different viewpoints and is nothing like what I expected. It has more to do with preparing for changes based on what the potential impacts are then trying to reduce our individual carbon footprints and reducing greenhouse gases. The author puts forth the idea that we are wasting time, money and resources trying to do something that even if we manage to do, will only delay things by 5 or 10 years, instead he is advocating that we figure out how to mitigate or reduce the impact of climate change on those who will be impacted.

I have to say that it is thought provoking and certainly approaches climate change from a fresh perspective.

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » December 31, 2007 4:25 pm

I bet it was written by Al Gore who invented the internet too

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » December 31, 2007 4:26 pm

oh and is everything you read the truth just because it got printed? hmmm

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » December 31, 2007 8:43 pm

Moonie wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
Moonie wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:no one is going to change the way they live . . . I have met so many people who claim to be "environmental" but they still take unnecessary flights for vacations and shower 10 times a week and keep their homes at 72 degrees and drive non hybrid cars or not car pool . . . sure the book is great . . . but it just doesn't matter. People won't change. And they won't have to for a long time so nothing will be different.
you have to start out small...as in recycling what you can...

there are those that claim to be green and never recycle even aluminum cans...

change can't and won't happen overnight....you can't save the world in 24 hrs...

hells bells, some people still litter.

haven't we all seen people throw their trash from fast food joints out the window....

Garry, it WAS 78 degs. outside here, just this week, actully about 81, ....but I'll tell you in the summer, gotta have that a/c when it's 98 degs. and 110 humidity...
Oh please . . . live how you want. I do. I don't care if you keep your home at 88 degrees and cyt down trees for fun . . .

The point is . . . I have never met anyone who claims to be an environmentalist (and I am not one . . . not even close . . . ) who is actually an environmentalist . . . I know there are a few out there but I have never met one . . . and it really annoys me when people claim to be "all about the environment" but still fly for nothing more than to get away from the cold . . . or use big oil/ gas chugging trucks who don't need them for work . . . or have big boats with big motors but claim they are environmentalists . . . as long as you don't claim to be one . . . live however you want!

AAaaahahahahahah gotta little angst in you life, there dp66...

'cause you haven't met one...means they don't exist, perhaps...

although, I, personally, do not:

fly for nothing more than to get away from the cold . . . or use big oil/ gas chugging trucks who don't need them for work . . . or have big boats with big motors

don't drive a hybrid simply because what I have is paid for and at the present time can't afford a newer one.

you do not have to claim to be an environmentalist to be environmentally conscious

I know the exist. Just haven't met one. Lots of hypocrits who claim to be . . .

and no real angst . . . although I need me some lovin . . . but that is a story for a different day . . . lousy cold island with no one on it!

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » December 31, 2007 9:10 pm

I saw an environmentalist in a restaurant on Friday.
It's amazing how they're able to blend in with all the NORMAL people.
I wonder how they do that.

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » December 31, 2007 9:12 pm

Wino you know wrote:I saw an environmentalist in a restaurant on Friday.
It's amazing how they're able to blend in with all the NORMAL people.
I wonder how they do that.

make up.

Post by **SMLCHNG** » December 31, 2007 9:22 pm

drunkpirate66 wrote:
Wino you know wrote:I saw an environmentalist in a restaurant on Friday.
It's amazing how they're able to blend in with all the NORMAL people.
I wonder how they do that.
make up.

And wigs.