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Posted: January 5, 2008 6:29 pm
by flipflopgirl
Lightning Bolt wrote:drunkpirate66 wrote:LIPH wrote:drunkpirate66 wrote:why can't someone just be a f*ck up?
It's the Oprahization of society. Nobody takes responsibility for their actions anymore, the first thing they do is look for someone or something to blame.
People need the Dennis Leary, "Shut the f*ck" type of therapy. "There's therapy for ya, mowing the lawn and crying . . . 'Hey the Leary kid is in therapy again but their yard looks great . . ."
Oprah has made a fortune telling people what they want to hear. No one is bad no one is a f*ck up . . . it is society or whatever . . . so lame.
And people buy it.
just like they buy into Tony Robbins or
The Secret
btw, I'll be driving 150 miles through the driving rain to be part of the candlelight vigil
that is being held outside of her rubber room...er... hospital suite
..not


Posted: January 5, 2008 6:40 pm
by Tequila Revenge
docandjeanie wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:OceanCityGirl wrote:What saddens me is that nobody wants the kids. I can't believe that if the father really wanted them he couldn't have had them permanently by now. The only visitation she should be allowed is at a neutral site under supervision. I would think that the only chance she has to get better is for her kids. So if they are taken away and she has to visit them in a glass room with an aide present she might see how bad things are and do the hard work.
And if she doesn't at least the kids are protected.
There are times when she's done things that seem like she knows the kids need to be taken from her. She doesn't have the heart to just give them up so she hopes somebody takes them.
Like maybe the Grandparents?
It's sad, her mother is no better. She's caught in the Media glare as well, to think she was writing a "how to be a good parent book" please, are they kidding me. (this was scrapped when the younger sister turned up pregnant) She's pregnant, britney is obviously drugged out beyond help.
Someone else needs to get control of those kids. If Federline, or his people are, then so be it, you don't hear about anything goofy going on with him. Crazy, eh?
Agree. Couldn't find the "tounge firmly embeded in cheek," smiley face

Very sad story and a pretty sad reflection of our society.
Posted: January 5, 2008 6:46 pm
by ragtopW
docandjeanie wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:OceanCityGirl wrote:What saddens me is that nobody wants the kids. I can't believe that if the father really wanted them he couldn't have had them permanently by now. The only visitation she should be allowed is at a neutral site under supervision. I would think that the only chance she has to get better is for her kids. So if they are taken away and she has to visit them in a glass room with an aide present she might see how bad things are and do the hard work.
And if she doesn't at least the kids are protected.
There are times when she's done things that seem like she knows the kids need to be taken from her. She doesn't have the heart to just give them up so she hopes somebody takes them.
Like maybe the Grandparents?
It's sad, her mother is no better. She's caught in the Media glare as well, to think she was writing a "how to be a good parent book" please, are they kidding me. (this was scrapped when the younger sister turned up pregnant) She's pregnant, britney is obviously drugged out beyond help.
Someone else needs to get control of those kids. If Federline, or his people are, then so be it, you don't hear about anything goofy going on with him. Crazy, eh?
Mom sold the Story about lil sis getting pregnant for a cool mil..

Posted: January 5, 2008 6:52 pm
by drunkpirate66
ragtopW wrote:docandjeanie wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:OceanCityGirl wrote:What saddens me is that nobody wants the kids. I can't believe that if the father really wanted them he couldn't have had them permanently by now. The only visitation she should be allowed is at a neutral site under supervision. I would think that the only chance she has to get better is for her kids. So if they are taken away and she has to visit them in a glass room with an aide present she might see how bad things are and do the hard work.
And if she doesn't at least the kids are protected.
There are times when she's done things that seem like she knows the kids need to be taken from her. She doesn't have the heart to just give them up so she hopes somebody takes them.
Like maybe the Grandparents?
It's sad, her mother is no better. She's caught in the Media glare as well, to think she was writing a "how to be a good parent book" please, are they kidding me. (this was scrapped when the younger sister turned up pregnant) She's pregnant, britney is obviously drugged out beyond help.
Someone else needs to get control of those kids. If Federline, or his people are, then so be it, you don't hear about anything goofy going on with him. Crazy, eh?
Mom sold the Story about lil sis getting pregnant for a cool mil..

White trash.
Posted: January 5, 2008 7:05 pm
by docandjeanie
drunkpirate66 wrote:ragtopW wrote:docandjeanie wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:OceanCityGirl wrote:What saddens me is that nobody wants the kids. I can't believe that if the father really wanted them he couldn't have had them permanently by now. The only visitation she should be allowed is at a neutral site under supervision. I would think that the only chance she has to get better is for her kids. So if they are taken away and she has to visit them in a glass room with an aide present she might see how bad things are and do the hard work.
And if she doesn't at least the kids are protected.
There are times when she's done things that seem like she knows the kids need to be taken from her. She doesn't have the heart to just give them up so she hopes somebody takes them.
Like maybe the Grandparents?
It's sad, her mother is no better. She's caught in the Media glare as well, to think she was writing a "how to be a good parent book" please, are they kidding me. (this was scrapped when the younger sister turned up pregnant) She's pregnant, britney is obviously drugged out beyond help.
Someone else needs to get control of those kids. If Federline, or his people are, then so be it, you don't hear about anything goofy going on with him. Crazy, eh?
Mom sold the Story about lil sis getting pregnant for a cool mil..

White trash.

Posted: January 5, 2008 7:07 pm
by creeky
My bet is she is suffering some sort of mental illness - like bipolar ..... it is not that far fetched of an idea ....
regardless - please remember kids need parents -and I hope she is able to sort herself out so the kids dont go through what I had to.
Posted: January 5, 2008 7:28 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
drunkpirate66 wrote:Wonder how people . . . class acts . . . like Jimmy Buffett mange to do it (and others . . . of course . . . many others . . .).
Two things, I think. First, they keep their kids out of the limelight. You see very, very few pictures of JB's kids (except for Savannah Jane, recently, but she's an adult now). Second, they clearly act like PARENTS. Every kid screws up sooner or later, and if parents don't deal with it, it spirals out of control. That hasn't happened with JB's kids. Good parenting, plain and simple.
Another celebrity who I think has done a good job is Tom Selleck. His daughter (who you *rarely* see in the media) is an accomplished equestrian who (last I heard) was headed for Olympic trials. Selleck used to be involved with an organization called something like "Character Counts." Coincidence? I think not.....
At the opposite end of the Idjit Spectrum is the Spears girls' mother, who used their celebrity to further her own illusions of grandeur. Sick.....

Posted: January 5, 2008 7:40 pm
by drunkpirate66
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:drunkpirate66 wrote:Wonder how people . . . class acts . . . like Jimmy Buffett mange to do it (and others . . . of course . . . many others . . .).
Two things, I think. First, they keep their kids out of the limelight. You see very, very few pictures of JB's kids (except for Savannah Jane, recently, but she's an adult now). Second, they clearly act like PARENTS. Every kid screws up sooner or later, and if parents don't deal with it, it spirals out of control. That hasn't happened with JB's kids. Good parenting, plain and simple.
Another celebrity who I think has done a good job is Tom Selleck. His daughter (who you *rarely* see in the media) is an accomplished equestrian who (last I heard) was headed for Olympic trials. Selleck used to be involved with an organization called something like "Character Counts." Coincidence? I think not.....
At the opposite end of the Idjit Spectrum is the Spears girls' mother, who used their celebrity to further her own illusions of grandeur. Sick.....

9 out of 10 celebrities . . . or even more than that are good parents. Normal people with more money than the rest of us.
Take the Clintons . . . I am not a big Clinton supporter but look at how Chelsea turned out! Amazing. Now look at the W. daughters . . .hmmmm?
It is what it is . . . but there is just no excuse for Britney . . . screw the mental illness bs . . . she is just someone who is consistently f'ing up and is consistently given more chances to do right . . . enough. Forget her. Jail. Only answer . . . she needs to be made an example of so the youth of America can see what happens when you break the law.
Posted: January 5, 2008 7:41 pm
by drunkpirate66
docandjeanie wrote:drunkpirate66 wrote:ragtopW wrote:docandjeanie wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:OceanCityGirl wrote:What saddens me is that nobody wants the kids. I can't believe that if the father really wanted them he couldn't have had them permanently by now. The only visitation she should be allowed is at a neutral site under supervision. I would think that the only chance she has to get better is for her kids. So if they are taken away and she has to visit them in a glass room with an aide present she might see how bad things are and do the hard work.
And if she doesn't at least the kids are protected.
There are times when she's done things that seem like she knows the kids need to be taken from her. She doesn't have the heart to just give them up so she hopes somebody takes them.
Like maybe the Grandparents?
It's sad, her mother is no better. She's caught in the Media glare as well, to think she was writing a "how to be a good parent book" please, are they kidding me. (this was scrapped when the younger sister turned up pregnant) She's pregnant, britney is obviously drugged out beyond help.
Someone else needs to get control of those kids. If Federline, or his people are, then so be it, you don't hear about anything goofy going on with him. Crazy, eh?
Mom sold the Story about lil sis getting pregnant for a cool mil..

White trash.

yeah . . . I am so far off . . .
Posted: January 5, 2008 8:09 pm
by flyboy55
LIPH wrote:drunkpirate66 wrote:why can't someone just be a f*ck up?
It's the Oprahization of society. Nobody takes responsibility for their actions anymore, the first thing they do is look for someone or something to blame.
I blame
The Mouse.
Posted: January 5, 2008 8:15 pm
by flyboy55
drunkpirate66 wrote:aeroparrot wrote:drunkpirate66 wrote:why can't someone just be a f*ck up? seriously. the media or whoever are not to blame. Britney is. She has no problems other than arrogance and an obvious need for attention. She could move somewhere quiet where there is no media and no drugs. She could have a 25,000 square foot mansion on a quiet island with a 20 foot tall fence and guards and still have tens if not hundreded of millions left over . . . but no! she chooses - CHOOSES to live where she does and DRINK and DO DRUGS in the middle of the media capital of the world . . . she is an ass and a f*ck up and she needs to have consequences . . . she did this to herself and no one, but Britney, is to blame.
It's the nature of the entertainment industry, especially with singers and actors. If they're not in the news, they feel like they won't get a break so they go with no news is bad news attitude.
Wonder how people . . . class acts . . . like Jimmy Buffett
manage to do it (and others . . . of course . . . many others . . .).
Heck! What Jimmy got "busted" for prescription drugs in France he took the time to respect the people who made him rich and famous and wrote a short note explaining what happened. He didn't have to do it. But he did.
I resolved long ago that no matter how rich and famous I became, I'd keep my personal life personal and definitely keep my kids out of the limelight and so far this has worked for us.
Posted: January 5, 2008 9:26 pm
by Wino you know
Clinton
News
Network
is reporting that useless waste of human debris has been
RELEASED from the hospital.
What she NEEDS is a permanent place in the RUBBER ROOM.
Posted: January 5, 2008 9:33 pm
by freaky4tiki
i think spears really enjoys all this attention. she's one derranged individual. words cannot describe her irresponsibility as a parent.
Posted: January 5, 2008 9:45 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
One of the most useful things that could happen here is for the media to STFU. Take this nonsense OFF the front page. Helicopters over the house? You gotta be kidding. She needs to be locked up in treatment somewhere where there's no media and she's nobody special. Then *maybe* she'll have a chance to straighten out her screwed up life....
Posted: January 5, 2008 9:48 pm
by docandjeanie
drunkpirate66 wrote:
yeah . . . I am so far off . . .
not you, the mother (nice to know you are sensitve

)
Posted: January 5, 2008 9:50 pm
by ragtopW
Well.... all is well.... Dr. Phil visited her before her release

Posted: January 5, 2008 9:51 pm
by drunkpirate66
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:One of the most useful things that could happen here is for the media to STFU. Take this nonsense OFF the front page. Helicopters over the house? You gotta be kidding. She needs to be locked up in treatment somewhere where there's no media and she's nobody special. Then *maybe* she'll have a chance to straighten out her screwed up life....
Or . . . because there is no chance in hell that she actually has a real mental illness and that she is just a drugged out f*ck up she COULD, like I mentioned, spend part of half billion dollar fortune for a home not near LA where she could actually get some quiet time (ya know . . . big walls . . . on an island . . . ) . . . but NO . . . she loves the sounds of those Helicopters and seeing her name in print.
Posted: January 5, 2008 9:54 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
drunkpirate66 wrote:SchoolGirlHeart wrote:One of the most useful things that could happen here is for the media to STFU. Take this nonsense OFF the front page. Helicopters over the house? You gotta be kidding. She needs to be locked up in treatment somewhere where there's no media and she's nobody special. Then *maybe* she'll have a chance to straighten out her screwed up life....
Or . . . because there is
no chance in hell that she actually has a real mental illness and that she is just a drugged out f*ck up she COULD, like I mentioned, spend part of half billion dollar fortune for a home not near LA where she could actually get some quiet time (ya know . . . big walls . . . on an island . . . ) . . . but NO . . . she loves the sounds of those Helicopters and seeing her name in print.
there is no way in hell she's going to get her life back on track without professional help....
but I do agree with you that she needs to get out of LA and away from the limelight
Posted: January 5, 2008 10:22 pm
by sonofabeach
reminds me of a joke a sportscaster said the other day.
Something along the lines of:
The Patriots went 16-0? Big Deal!
Even Britney's little sister went 16-0 
Posted: January 5, 2008 10:23 pm
by ragtopW
sonofabeach wrote:
reminds me of a joke a sportscaster said the other day.
Something along the lines of:
The Patriots went 16-0? Big Deal!
Even Britney's little sister went 16-0 
Damb it!!!! I got Cookie on my Monitor now....
