Question about a song

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 7:02 am

I have always thought "Livingston Saturday Night" was about your average bar in Livingston, MT. A thought reinforced because the better version came out on the Rancho Deluxe soundtrack (if I remember right), and with that being shot up south of Livingston...

Recently, a friend told me it was about a Saturday night at Livingston College down in Mississippi and has nothing to do with MT. They cited it being mentioned in "A Pirate Looks at 50", but I have been unable to find it.

Anyone know the page, or if this is a "semi-true story" that could be both MT and MS?

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » January 8, 2008 7:19 am

I'm not the wisest reference for this type of thing, but I mean well

and I never heard anything about the "college" version of that story.

bravedave · Post by **bravedave** » January 8, 2008 9:08 am

Livingston College ... Mississippi

I find no such place

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 11:05 am

Dezdmona · Post by **Dezdmona** » January 8, 2008 11:16 am

In the song database in "Jimmy's Notes" it says:

I think it has a lot to do with what I learned that summer in Montana.

aeroparrot · Post by **aeroparrot** » January 8, 2008 11:19 am

I would think the one about the bar in MT is correct and I would go with that one. This is the first I have heard of the Mississippi connection and not sure if that is correct.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 11:26 am

well, first: I was wrong about the state, it's AL not MS. Livingston College, then Livingston University, now Univ. of West Alabama... and supposedly, it was written when Jimmy was in CO with a cowriter from AL who had gone there. that is what I was told..

I have to say that I was skeptical, especially when the "it was in the APLA50" and I might have remembered that. I looked at the book a bit, but didn't see much about anything other than surfing, to NO and touring, and then the trip to KW with Murph and JJW. But, I was hoping someone here had a more encyclopedic knowledge. Granted... arguing over this is pointless, but it would be nice to be able to smile and know, "yeah, I was right, but I'll let you keep your illusion"

Dezdmona · Post by **Dezdmona** » January 8, 2008 12:16 pm

http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html

Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.

Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.

popcornjack · Post by **popcornjack** » January 8, 2008 12:19 pm

RinglingRingling wrote:well, first: I was wrong about the state, it's AL not MS. Livingston College, then Livingston University, now Univ. of West Alabama... and supposedly, it was written when Jimmy was in CO with a cowriter from AL who had gone there. that is what I was told..

I have to say that I was skeptical, especially when the "it was in the APLA50" and I might have remembered that. I looked at the book a bit, but didn't see much about anything other than surfing, to NO and touring, and then the trip to KW with Murph and JJW. But, I was hoping someone here had a more encyclopedic knowledge. Granted... arguing over this is pointless, but it would be nice to be able to smile and know, "yeah, I was right, but I'll let you keep your illusion"

But you always do that, whether you are or not.

FINSUPinIdaho · Post by **FINSUPinIdaho** » January 8, 2008 12:21 pm

I was in Livingston this summer and it is about Montana. I talked to an old local who remembered when they filmed there, and pointed out the place. I went there and it is now an old chinese restaurant.
I kept thinking "Rivingston Saturday Night"...

Also called RM and Steve played my request (told him where we were about to pull into, and it was Saturday about 8 ish so...) and song just as we were pulling into town. Pretty cool.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 12:30 pm

popcornjack wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:well, first: I was wrong about the state, it's AL not MS. Livingston College, then Livingston University, now Univ. of West Alabama... and supposedly, it was written when Jimmy was in CO with a cowriter from AL who had gone there. that is what I was told..

I have to say that I was skeptical, especially when the "it was in the APLA50" and I might have remembered that. I looked at the book a bit, but didn't see much about anything other than surfing, to NO and touring, and then the trip to KW with Murph and JJW. But, I was hoping someone here had a more encyclopedic knowledge. Granted... arguing over this is pointless, but it would be nice to be able to smile and know, "yeah, I was right, but I'll let you keep your illusion"
But you always do that, whether you are or not.

Jack, I just let you keep your illusions.

popcornjack · Post by **popcornjack** » January 8, 2008 12:32 pm

RinglingRingling wrote:
popcornjack wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:well, first: I was wrong about the state, it's AL not MS. Livingston College, then Livingston University, now Univ. of West Alabama... and supposedly, it was written when Jimmy was in CO with a cowriter from AL who had gone there. that is what I was told..

I have to say that I was skeptical, especially when the "it was in the APLA50" and I might have remembered that. I looked at the book a bit, but didn't see much about anything other than surfing, to NO and touring, and then the trip to KW with Murph and JJW. But, I was hoping someone here had a more encyclopedic knowledge. Granted... arguing over this is pointless, but it would be nice to be able to smile and know, "yeah, I was right, but I'll let you keep your illusion"
But you always do that, whether you are or not.
Jack, I just let you keep your illusions.

jerk

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 12:32 pm

popcornjack wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
popcornjack wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:well, first: I was wrong about the state, it's AL not MS. Livingston College, then Livingston University, now Univ. of West Alabama... and supposedly, it was written when Jimmy was in CO with a cowriter from AL who had gone there. that is what I was told..

I have to say that I was skeptical, especially when the "it was in the APLA50" and I might have remembered that. I looked at the book a bit, but didn't see much about anything other than surfing, to NO and touring, and then the trip to KW with Murph and JJW. But, I was hoping someone here had a more encyclopedic knowledge. Granted... arguing over this is pointless, but it would be nice to be able to smile and know, "yeah, I was right, but I'll let you keep your illusion"
But you always do that, whether you are or not.
Jack, I just let you keep your illusions.
jerk

another one you can keep.

I am just a giving kinda guy.

MKats31 · Post by **MKats31** » January 8, 2008 2:28 pm

hahahahahaha

CapnK · Post by **CapnK** » January 8, 2008 2:46 pm

nothing to do with original topic, but....I just bought a house on a Livingston Lane. whoo-hoo! The Mrs. doesn't appreciate the true beauty of that.

Now if I can only get a house on Caroline St...I'll be set!

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 3:06 pm

CapnK wrote:nothing to do with original topic, but....I just bought a house on a Livingston Lane. whoo-hoo! The Mrs. doesn't appreciate the true beauty of that.

Now if I can only get a house on Caroline St...I'll be set!

just get an old Atari Pong console.. you are set.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 3:09 pm

Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html

Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.

Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.

yep, they have a ranch up the Crazies where McGuane and his wife (Jimmy's other sister) raise horses.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » January 8, 2008 4:07 pm

JustDucky · Post by **JustDucky** » January 9, 2008 3:53 am

The same inspiration Lone Palm was written about - SOMETHING. What or where it was exactly isn't important.

trojan_sixtyone · Post by **trojan_sixtyone** » January 9, 2008 10:17 am

Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html

Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.

Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.

Exactly. I always thought it was about Montana because of "Rancho Deluxe" and the McGuane connection and so forth. The film reflects a lot of the action described in the song, as well.

I always preferred the RD version to the SOASOAS version, mainly because of the line "There's a whorehouse on the edge of town where anybody's able to screw."