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Posted: January 9, 2008 10:37 am
by OystersandBeer
trojan_sixtyone wrote:Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html
Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.
Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.
Exactly. I always thought it was about Montana because of "Rancho Deluxe" and the McGuane connection and so forth. The film reflects a lot of the action described in the song, as well.
I always preferred the RD version to the SOASOAS version, mainly because of the line "There's a whorehouse on the edge of town where anybody's able to screw."
I agree. Something about that line that gets to the truth. I hate that Buffett had to compromise for the mainstream. But, wouldn't we all?
Posted: January 9, 2008 10:42 am
by RinglingRingling
OystersandBeer wrote:trojan_sixtyone wrote:Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html
Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.
Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.
Exactly. I always thought it was about Montana because of "Rancho Deluxe" and the McGuane connection and so forth. The film reflects a lot of the action described in the song, as well.
I always preferred the RD version to the SOASOAS version, mainly because of the line "There's a whorehouse on the edge of town where anybody's able to screw."
I agree. Something about that line that gets to the truth. I hate that Buffett had to compromise for the mainstream. But, wouldn't we all?
another reason I have always thought it was MT. There were still brothels operating (albeit illegally but unraided) in Butte and Livingston up to the 60s, and one up I-90 in Wallace, ID (where you're not a stranger, just friend not yet met) thru the 80s
Posted: January 9, 2008 12:10 pm
by Cincy'sOwnDrunk
Cosidering the song was on the soundtrack for a movie that takes place in Montana and is presumedly the original version (since the movie came before SOASOAS) I would have to say that is is about Montana. However, it is posible that the remake is about the college since there's certainly a difference in some of the lyrics.
Posted: January 9, 2008 12:16 pm
by trojan_sixtyone
OystersandBeer wrote:trojan_sixtyone wrote:Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html
Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.
Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.
Exactly. I always thought it was about Montana because of "Rancho Deluxe" and the McGuane connection and so forth. The film reflects a lot of the action described in the song, as well.
I always preferred the RD version to the SOASOAS version, mainly because of the line "There's a whorehouse on the edge of town where anybody's able to screw."
I agree. Something about that line that gets to the truth. I hate that Buffett had to compromise for the mainstream. But, wouldn't we all?
I don't want to change this thread into a discussion of mainstream, but I think Jimmy's change was just as much the result of maturing and seeing the world in a different way as I do a marketing ploy. Jimmy represents the Baby Boomer generation: cynical and wreckless in youth, laid back and more traditional in older age.
What is different is that Jimmy's career has lasted so long we've been able to follow the changes and notice the difference in him, whereas most artists aren't around long enough for that kind of thing to get noticed.
Posted: January 9, 2008 12:27 pm
by RinglingRingling
time to be polite and smile inwardly...
http://margaritaville.com/index.php?pag ... rch_boxset
LIVINGSTON SATURDAY NIGHT One day my old friend and now brother-in-law Thomas McGuane came over to my house in Key West and gave me a movie script he had written. He asked me to read it and said he recommended that I write the music. The script was entitled "Rancho Deluxe," and the rest is history. Yes, I am in the movie: in the bar scene, along with Tom and the late Warren Oats. I think it has a lot to do with what I learned that summer in Montana.
Posted: January 9, 2008 3:44 pm
by Cincy'sOwnDrunk
trojan_sixtyone wrote:OystersandBeer wrote:trojan_sixtyone wrote:Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html
Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.
Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.
Exactly. I always thought it was about Montana because of "Rancho Deluxe" and the McGuane connection and so forth. The film reflects a lot of the action described in the song, as well.
I always preferred the RD version to the SOASOAS version, mainly because of the line "There's a whorehouse on the edge of town where anybody's able to screw."
I agree. Something about that line that gets to the truth. I hate that Buffett had to compromise for the mainstream. But, wouldn't we all?
I don't want to change this thread into a discussion of mainstream, but I think Jimmy's change was just as much the result of maturing and seeing the world in a different way as I do a marketing ploy. Jimmy represents the Baby Boomer generation: cynical and wreckless in youth, laid back and more traditional in older age.
What is different is that Jimmy's career has lasted so long we've been able to follow the changes and notice the difference in him, whereas most artists aren't around long enough for that kind of thing to get noticed.
Do you think he matured THAT much from 1975 to 1978?
Posted: January 9, 2008 3:50 pm
by RinglingRingling
Cincy'sOwnDrunk wrote:trojan_sixtyone wrote:OystersandBeer wrote:trojan_sixtyone wrote:Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html
Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.
Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.
Exactly. I always thought it was about Montana because of "Rancho Deluxe" and the McGuane connection and so forth. The film reflects a lot of the action described in the song, as well.
I always preferred the RD version to the SOASOAS version, mainly because of the line "There's a whorehouse on the edge of town where anybody's able to screw."
I agree. Something about that line that gets to the truth. I hate that Buffett had to compromise for the mainstream. But, wouldn't we all?
I don't want to change this thread into a discussion of mainstream, but I think Jimmy's change was just as much the result of maturing and seeing the world in a different way as I do a marketing ploy. Jimmy represents the Baby Boomer generation: cynical and wreckless in youth, laid back and more traditional in older age.
What is different is that Jimmy's career has lasted so long we've been able to follow the changes and notice the difference in him, whereas most artists aren't around long enough for that kind of thing to get noticed.
Do you think he matured THAT much from 1975 to 1978?
it was a hard couple years there... and he had his nose broke in Spago when he puked on the bar.. that would get my attention
Posted: January 9, 2008 4:00 pm
by trojan_sixtyone
Cincy'sOwnDrunk wrote:trojan_sixtyone wrote:OystersandBeer wrote:trojan_sixtyone wrote:Dezdmona wrote:http://www.ultimatemontana.com/newslett ... 10801.html
Come Monday is another song that mentions Montana.
Buffett's brother-in-law, author Thomas McGuane, lived in Montana in the early 70's and Buffett apparently spent a considerable amount of time there before heading to KW.
Exactly. I always thought it was about Montana because of "Rancho Deluxe" and the McGuane connection and so forth. The film reflects a lot of the action described in the song, as well.
I always preferred the RD version to the SOASOAS version, mainly because of the line "There's a whorehouse on the edge of town where anybody's able to screw."
I agree. Something about that line that gets to the truth. I hate that Buffett had to compromise for the mainstream. But, wouldn't we all?
I don't want to change this thread into a discussion of mainstream, but I think Jimmy's change was just as much the result of maturing and seeing the world in a different way as I do a marketing ploy. Jimmy represents the Baby Boomer generation: cynical and wreckless in youth, laid back and more traditional in older age.
What is different is that Jimmy's career has lasted so long we've been able to follow the changes and notice the difference in him, whereas most artists aren't around long enough for that kind of thing to get noticed.
Do you think he matured THAT much from 1975 to 1978?
I'm talking about the period from "Down to Earth" until now, not between '75 and '78. Just a general thought about criticism of Jimmy commercializing himself and what not. Something I'd bee thinking about lately.
Posted: January 12, 2008 2:19 pm
by Mary Queen of Shots
Hey, we just watched this movie for the first time last Saturday...it wasn't too bad.

Posted: January 12, 2008 2:34 pm
by Tequila Revenge
First clue for me
"You got your Tony Lama's on your
jeans pressed tight,
You take a few tokes, make you feel all right,"
The only folks I know that iron thier jeans are cowboys.
BTW, wonder why of all the "Buffett Writers" everyone reads, usually from Florida and Key West, Tom isn't very popular. I've really enjoyed every book of his I've read.
Posted: January 12, 2008 4:09 pm
by RinglingRingling
Tequila Revenge wrote:First clue for me
"You got your Tony Lama's on your
jeans pressed tight,
You take a few tokes, make you feel all right,"
The only folks I know that iron thier jeans are cowboys.
BTW, wonder why of all the "Buffett Writers" everyone reads, usually from Florida and Key West, Tom isn't very popular. I've really enjoyed every book of his I've read.
I don't know too many MS college students who wear Lamas either...
Posted: January 12, 2008 6:19 pm
by ph4ever
So, it's not about Livingston, Texas?

Posted: January 12, 2008 9:38 pm
by Tequila Revenge
RinglingRingling wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:First clue for me
"You got your Tony Lama's on your
jeans pressed tight,
You take a few tokes, make you feel all right,"
The only folks I know that iron thier jeans are cowboys.
BTW, wonder why of all the "Buffett Writers" everyone reads, usually from Florida and Key West, Tom isn't very popular. I've really enjoyed every book of his I've read.
I don't know too many MS college students who wear Lamas either...
BRILLANT!!!
actually I wasn't sure about ropers in MS 
Posted: January 13, 2008 10:54 am
by Missing B'dos
Livingston MT is one of the gateways to Yellowstone, and also the world travelled slightly crazy writer Tim Cahill lives there. Elk, rafting, all that.