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12vmanRick wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

but in most states it's 21 to drink... just an FYI

You can change most to all I believe. Doesn't matter. 18 is the age of majority. Parental rights and responsibilities cease at 18 in the eyes of the law. Like it or not your 19 year old child can do anything they want with their body and possessions and there is nothing you can do about it, unless your are a control freak and they allow you to control and manipulate them.

Skibo wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

but in most states it's 21 to drink... just an FYI

You can change most to all I believe. Doesn't matter. 18 is the age of majority. Parental rights and responsibilities cease at 18 in the eyes of the law. Like it or not your 19 year old child can do anything they want with their body and possessions and there is nothing you can do about it, unless your are a control freak and they allow you to control and manipulate them.

Think of it as a contract: party A performs action x for party B in exchange for actions y & z. party B fails to uphold the terms of the contract. party A ends the contract and takes back the item.

and 18 yos, being legal adults, are bound by contract laws. so....

bravedave wrote:I secretly beam inside when kids call me a big ol' meanie.
(I figure I must be doing something right...)

Me too.
It's even MORE of a thrill when adults call me a mean old bas--rd.

She shoulda spanked him, then sold his car.

I think she totally did the right thing.

RinglingRingling wrote:
19 is still 2 years shy of legally being in possession of alcohol...

But it's old enough to go to war and die for your country. Never did make a lot of sense to me.

RinglingRingling wrote:

Skibo wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

but in most states it's 21 to drink... just an FYI

You can change most to all I believe. Doesn't matter. 18 is the age of majority. Parental rights and responsibilities cease at 18 in the eyes of the law. Like it or not your 19 year old child can do anything they want with their body and possessions and there is nothing you can do about it, unless your are a control freak and they allow you to control and manipulate them.

Think of it as a contract: party A performs action x for party B in exchange for actions y & z. party B fails to uphold the terms of the contract. party A ends the contract and takes back the item.

and 18 yos, being legal adults, are bound by contract laws. so....

You either didn't read the entire article or my post that responded to a similar reply. I'll paste it here. The portion in bold shows that we agree with the contract thing. The portion in red is the pathetic part of her actions.

you don't see my point it seems. I have issues with parents that attempt to manipulate their children after they are considered 'adults' in the eyes of the law. I have no problem with her allowing him to use a car she purchased, I'm even ok with selling it off after he broke the law. It is rediculus that she is making a public spectacle of the entire thing. In about 5-10 years he will come to resent her, if not already for her attempts to control and manipulate him.

My response is neither.

The "kid" is not a kid . . . he is a 19 year old adult.

First of all . . . why is this loser still living at home . . .?

Second of all this adult should be treated like an adult . . . his ass should've been kicked out of the house and that is that . . . let him keep the car and get a job . . . get his own place because he is an f'n 19 year old who should either be living at college, in the military or working with his own place . . . and if the cops catch him with booze then so be it. If he causes an accident then send him to jail . . . but the fact is - he is an adult and he is breaking the law on his own . . . no help from mommy anymore except helping him find the door . . .

Skibo wrote:

STL PARROTHEAD wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

yea, but..... sounds like SHE bought the car, and gave it to him WITH stipulations.............

you don't see my point it seems. I have issues with parents that attempt to manipulate their children after they are considered 'adults' in the eyes of the law. I have no problem with her allowing him to use a car she purchased, I'm even ok with selling it off after he broke the law. It is rediculus that she is making a public spectacle of the entire thing. In about 5-10 years he will come to resent her, if not already for her attempts to control and manipulate him.

The law might see people as adults at 18, however "parenting" doesn't really end just 'cause your kid is 18. The nature of the relationship changes, but there is still parenting to be done.

buffettbride wrote:

Skibo wrote:

STL PARROTHEAD wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

yea, but..... sounds like SHE bought the car, and gave it to him WITH stipulations.............

you don't see my point it seems. I have issues with parents that attempt to manipulate their children after they are considered 'adults' in the eyes of the law. I have no problem with her allowing him to use a car she purchased, I'm even ok with selling it off after he broke the law. It is rediculus that she is making a public spectacle of the entire thing. In about 5-10 years he will come to resent her, if not already for her attempts to control and manipulate him.

The law might see people as adults at 18, however "parenting" doesn't really end just 'cause your kid is 18. The nature of the relationship changes, but there is still parenting to be done.

'specially when we're paying for it.

I lived at home with my folks when I was 19. I'm such a loser.

citcat wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

Skibo wrote:

STL PARROTHEAD wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

yea, but..... sounds like SHE bought the car, and gave it to him WITH stipulations.............

you don't see my point it seems. I have issues with parents that attempt to manipulate their children after they are considered 'adults' in the eyes of the law. I have no problem with her allowing him to use a car she purchased, I'm even ok with selling it off after he broke the law. It is rediculus that she is making a public spectacle of the entire thing. In about 5-10 years he will come to resent her, if not already for her attempts to control and manipulate him.

The law might see people as adults at 18, however "parenting" doesn't really end just 'cause your kid is 18. The nature of the relationship changes, but there is still parenting to be done.

'specially when we're paying for it.

You got it. I'm all about "my house (my car, etc.), my rules."

If said "kid" doesn't like it, he can buy his own car with his own money and drive it to his own apartment with as much booze as he likes.

yeah, she's a honor's grad of the mean mommy school and that's awesome! basically the kid signed a contract and what happens when you break the contract? you pay somehow! a good lesson learned.

That said, in her defense, she probably didn't think the whole freakin world would see the want ad when she placed it.

buffettbride wrote:I lived at home with my folks when I was 19. I'm such a loser.

atleast you know it . . .

can we add a third choice to this poll?

Crappy Mother . . .

a good parent would have made sure this adult wouldn't be such a loser breaking mommy's rules . . .

buffettbride wrote:I lived at home with my folks when I was 19. I'm such a loser.

I lived with my parents until I got married at 23.

buffettbride wrote:

citcat wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

Skibo wrote:

STL PARROTHEAD wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

yea, but..... sounds like SHE bought the car, and gave it to him WITH stipulations.............

you don't see my point it seems. I have issues with parents that attempt to manipulate their children after they are considered 'adults' in the eyes of the law. I have no problem with her allowing him to use a car she purchased, I'm even ok with selling it off after he broke the law. It is rediculus that she is making a public spectacle of the entire thing. In about 5-10 years he will come to resent her, if not already for her attempts to control and manipulate him.

The law might see people as adults at 18, however "parenting" doesn't really end just 'cause your kid is 18. The nature of the relationship changes, but there is still parenting to be done.

'specially when we're paying for it.

You got it. I'm all about "my house (my car, etc.), my rules."

If said "kid" doesn't like it, he can buy his own car with his own money and drive it to his own apartment with as much booze as he likes.

19 is an adult . . .

if you are in school stay at home . . . otherwise find a roommate and get a job . . . or sign up for the military . . .

19!!!!!

freaky4tiki wrote:yeah, she's a honor's grad of the mean mommy school and that's awesome! basically the kid signed a contract and what happens when you break the contract? you pay somehow! a good lesson learned.

That said, in her defense, she probably didn't think the whole freakin world would see the want ad when she placed it.

Magna Cum Mean Mommy

If he's stupid enough to leave booze in his car where his mom can
find it, he's too stupid to drive. If it was a passenger that left it in
there (which sounds like b.s. to me) he should slap around the
"passenger" for losing him his ride. Instead of whining about how
his mommy is treating him. The public humiliation seems a little over
the top, but we don't know this kid. Maybe he needed a wakeup call.

Skibo wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

Skibo wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

but in most states it's 21 to drink... just an FYI

You can change most to all I believe. Doesn't matter. 18 is the age of majority. Parental rights and responsibilities cease at 18 in the eyes of the law. Like it or not your 19 year old child can do anything they want with their body and possessions and there is nothing you can do about it, unless your are a control freak and they allow you to control and manipulate them.

Think of it as a contract: party A performs action x for party B in exchange for actions y & z. party B fails to uphold the terms of the contract. party A ends the contract and takes back the item.

and 18 yos, being legal adults, are bound by contract laws. so....

You either didn't read the entire article or my post that responded to a similar reply. I'll paste it here. The portion in bold shows that we agree with the contract thing. The portion in red is the pathetic part of her actions.

you don't see my point it seems. I have issues with parents that attempt to manipulate their children after they are considered 'adults' in the eyes of the law. I have no problem with her allowing him to use a car she purchased, I'm even ok with selling it off after he broke the law. It is rediculus that she is making a public spectacle of the entire thing. In about 5-10 years he will come to resent her, if not already for her attempts to control and manipulate him.

so from this point on, can we put you down for being against any and all actions on the part of your local, state, or federal government in which shame is used as a deterrant/corrective device?

Skibo wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

but in most states it's 21 to drink... just an FYI

You can change most to all I believe. Doesn't matter. 18 is the age of majority. Parental rights and responsibilities cease at 18 in the eyes of the law. Like it or not your 19 year old child can do anything they want with their body and possessions and there is nothing you can do about it, unless your are a control freak and they allow you to control and manipulate them.

Yea believe me you are preaching to the choir about 18 being a legal adult. I think if you have to go to war at 18 and are an adult you should be able to drink, etc.

12vmanRick wrote:

Skibo wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:

Skibo wrote:Pathetic. The kid is 19, that qualifies as an adult in most states. Somebody needs to grow up and someone else needs to stop interferring in an adults life.

but in most states it's 21 to drink... just an FYI

You can change most to all I believe. Doesn't matter. 18 is the age of majority. Parental rights and responsibilities cease at 18 in the eyes of the law. Like it or not your 19 year old child can do anything they want with their body and possessions and there is nothing you can do about it, unless your are a control freak and they allow you to control and manipulate them.

Yea believe me you are preaching to the choir about 18 being a legal adult. I think if you have to go to war at 18 and are an adult you should be able to drink, etc.

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and own a car . . . and as well as your own mistakes . . . does mommy cut the little b*tch's meat too . . .? ridiculous.