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Alpine Valley No More??

Posted: January 11, 2008 12:31 pm
by KSquared
Please tell me this is not true!! Heard today that there will be no more concerts at Alpine due to the construction of some very expensive condos in the area. Rumour has it that prior to building, the condo people petitioned that there be no more summer concerts and it was approved. Tried calling Alpine and only got an answering machine so I don't know if this is true. Am hoping that someone out there will be able to dispel this nasty rumor!

Re: Alpine Valley No More??

Posted: January 11, 2008 12:37 pm
by drunkpirate66
KSquared wrote:Please tell me this is not true!! Heard today that there will be no more concerts at Alpine due to the construction of some very expensive condos in the area. Rumour has it that prior to building, the condo people petitioned that there be no more summer concerts and it was approved. Tried calling Alpine and only got an answering machine so I don't know if this is true. Am hoping that someone out there will be able to dispel this nasty rumor!

that would stink.

Posted: January 11, 2008 12:38 pm
by CaptainP
This rumor has been spread every year since about 1990.

I'll believe it when it happens.

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:07 pm
by mjeischen
I'm not familiar with the annual rumor related to ALpine BUT Alpine is a Live Nation venue and Live Nation has been assessing properties and their value.

Tinley Park and Indy are mentioned to be for sale as the land is worth more overall than the revenue brought in from struggling summer touring seasons.

Tinley has seen a tremendous drop in performances with newer and smaller venues opening, so I would believe the theory of the property being worth more.

I think this would have been released as news though before now. To my understanding venues/cities are likely determined its merely a matter of dates.

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:16 pm
by mjeischen
THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:23 pm
by RinglingRingling
mjeischen wrote:THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .
stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:28 pm
by CaptainP
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .
stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:34 pm
by RinglingRingling
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .
stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.
also true.. but not yet discounted..

(and if a couple jump, it's more tickets.. :D)

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:51 pm
by mjeischen
Well . . . I won't go to Wrigley again. That was a novelty.

If he cancels Alpine for Wrigley - i obviously won't get to Alpine.

Looks like I'll go on the road and visit Jimmy somewhere new . . . .

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:52 pm
by RinglingRingling
mjeischen wrote:Well . . . I won't go to Wrigley again. That was a novelty.

If he cancels Alpine for Wrigley - i obviously won't get to Alpine.

Looks like I'll go on the road and visit Jimmy somewhere new . . . .
Boise?

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:53 pm
by mjeischen
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:Well . . . I won't go to Wrigley again. That was a novelty.

If he cancels Alpine for Wrigley - i obviously won't get to Alpine.

Looks like I'll go on the road and visit Jimmy somewhere new . . . .
Boise?
It would be the only good reason ever known to go there . . .

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:53 pm
by drunkpirate66
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .
stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.
also true.. but not yet discounted..

(and if a couple jump, it's more tickets.. :D)
I doubt that one police officer (which was the source) telling someone that he heard something about some rock show at some point this summer means much.

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:54 pm
by RinglingRingling
drunkpirate66 wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .
stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.
also true.. but not yet discounted..

(and if a couple jump, it's more tickets.. :D)
I doubt that one police officer (which was the source) telling someone that he heard something about some rock show at some point this summer means much.
CPD has a bit more weight than your average cop shop...

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:55 pm
by CaptainP
RinglingRingling wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .
stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.
also true.. but not yet discounted..

(and if a couple jump, it's more tickets.. :D)
I doubt that one police officer (which was the source) telling someone that he heard something about some rock show at some point this summer means much.
CPD has a bit more weight than your average cop shop...
That's because there are so many donuts available in Chicago...

Posted: January 11, 2008 1:55 pm
by RinglingRingling
mjeischen wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:Well . . . I won't go to Wrigley again. That was a novelty.

If he cancels Alpine for Wrigley - i obviously won't get to Alpine.

Looks like I'll go on the road and visit Jimmy somewhere new . . . .
Boise?
It would be the only good reason ever known to go there . . .
and with that, MJ silently moved from the "good presents" to the "coal" list in Santa's book..

Posted: January 11, 2008 2:28 pm
by Tropic_Al
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote: stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.
also true.. but not yet discounted..

(and if a couple jump, it's more tickets.. :D)
I doubt that one police officer (which was the source) telling someone that he heard something about some rock show at some point this summer means much.
CPD has a bit more weight than your average cop shop...
That's because there are so many donuts available in Chicago...
Those aren't donuts, they're POWER RINGS..... :-?

Posted: January 11, 2008 2:53 pm
by RinglingRingling
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
drunkpirate66 wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote: stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.
also true.. but not yet discounted..

(and if a couple jump, it's more tickets.. :D)
I doubt that one police officer (which was the source) telling someone that he heard something about some rock show at some point this summer means much.
CPD has a bit more weight than your average cop shop...
That's because there are so many donuts available in Chicago...
and Italian Beef stands.

Posted: January 11, 2008 3:09 pm
by ConchRepublican
mjeischen wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:Well . . . I won't go to Wrigley again. That was a novelty.

If he cancels Alpine for Wrigley - i obviously won't get to Alpine.

Looks like I'll go on the road and visit Jimmy somewhere new . . . .
Boise?
It would be the only good reason ever known to go there . . .
I read a travel review in a doctors office a couple of years ago which listed Boise as a hidden gem. Nice downtown scene with good restaurants in an American Graffitti kinda way with an up and coming music scene.

It was considered nice, different, top weekend getaway for left coasters . . .

Posted: January 11, 2008 9:13 pm
by ragtopW
ConchRepublican wrote:
mjeischen wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:Well . . . I won't go to Wrigley again. That was a novelty.

If he cancels Alpine for Wrigley - i obviously won't get to Alpine.

Looks like I'll go on the road and visit Jimmy somewhere new . . . .
Boise?
It would be the only good reason ever known to go there . . .
I read a travel review in a doctors office a couple of years ago which listed Boise as a hidden gem. Nice downtown scene with good restaurants in an American Graffitti kinda way with an up and coming music scene.

It was considered nice, different, top weekend getaway for left coasters . . .
that's it.. I come down for the Weekend....

11 years ago.. :lol: :lol:

Posted: January 11, 2008 9:20 pm
by ragtopW
drunkpirate66 wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
mjeischen wrote:THIS IS OFFICIALLY A NON-ISSUE FOR THIS YEAR . . .

Alpine has a Myspace page and they listed job postings on the page on Jan. 3rd, 2008.

Everyone may back away from the ledge now . . .
stay put. there is the rumoured Wrigley date, which would probably result in another cancellation of Alpine like 2005
That "rumor" is pretty flimsy.
also true.. but not yet discounted..

(and if a couple jump, it's more tickets.. :D)
I doubt that one police officer (which was the source) telling someone that he heard something about some rock show at some point this summer means much.
this has been discussed..
but in the times I have ever had anything to do with a concert
Here (pretty much) was the extent of the "cops being in on planning"

Promoter.. hi we are going to have a concert on XX day..
Nice officer.. OK for a crowd the size that you are talking about
you need xx official police for yy people. and xx rent a cops for
every many yy people
Oh yeah call the Fire Marshal to see how may tickets you can sell for
the size of area you are talking about..


Promoter.. thanks. Bye!!


yes this is the simple version. but in mose cases that is the extent
of. "Police Planning"
they then are told the Date of the show and who is on the Bill
I have worked (and tailgated) where I have heard one officer
ask another. "So who is on tonight?" more than once. :lol: