Clemens: Liar or Not?

rumdrinks · Post by **rumdrinks** » February 13, 2008 8:14 pm

First off, what kind of circus of a hearing are they having when Clemens gets to hobnob in Congressmen's offices the day before, chit chatting and signing autographs for those who will be hearing his testimony???

If you read Andy Petite's testimony, he says Clemens told him he did do HGH/steroids. Clemens says Petite "misunderstood" him, he claims he was talking about his wife.

What does McNamee have to gain by lying about Clemens ? He says he injected Knoblauch and Petite and they owned up. So McNamee wasn't lying about them, so why would he lie about Clemens.

While I have been a Clemens fan in the past, I have admit, I think he's the liar here.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » February 13, 2008 8:30 pm

either way.. (I think he did)

How does the Congressman get off calling the trainer a Liar??

poor form.. and in most settings a case for slander..

aeroparrot · Post by **aeroparrot** » February 13, 2008 8:34 pm

It doesn't matter because if he admits that he did it now, he will be held for perjury to Congress and be tried and if convicted, sent to jail. His reputation has already been tarnished.

C-Dawg · Post by **C-Dawg** » February 13, 2008 8:34 pm

I vote liar.....he's just trying to salvage his chance at Cooperstown.....there's just too much evidence against him. Even his supposed best friend Pettitte testified they'd discussed his using 'roids and HGH

I think somewhere, Dan Duquette is sitting back smiling, saying "See, I told you he was done when we didn't resign him to the the Red Sox"

springparrot · Post by **springparrot** » February 13, 2008 8:36 pm

I don't know who is telling the truth, but try living in the Houston area----coverage all day, all the time

aeroparrot · Post by **aeroparrot** » February 13, 2008 8:38 pm

C-Dawg wrote:I vote liar.....he's just trying to salvage his chance at Cooperstown.....there's just too much evidence against him. Even his supposed best friend Pettitte testified they'd discussed his using 'roids and HGH

I think somewhere, Dan Duquette is sitting back smiling, saying "See, I told you he was done when we didn't resign him to the the Red Sox"

I can't believe that I agree with you and say DD looks pretty good right now.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 13, 2008 8:47 pm

1. I don't know who's telling the truth and I don't give a damn

2. Baseball is f'd up

3. While our nation's military is at war (our nation as a whole most certainly does not act like we're at war

) CONGRESS DAMN WELL HAS MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO SPEND MY TAX DOLLARS ON......

<<----- not PO'd at the thread, just at Congress and celebrity sports azzes......

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » February 13, 2008 8:55 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:1. I don't know who's telling the truth and I don't give a damn

2. Baseball is f'd up

3. While our nation's military is at war (our nation as a whole most certainly does not act like we're at war ) CONGRESS DAMN WELL HAS MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO SPEND MY TAX DOLLARS ON......

<<----- not PO'd at the thread, just at Congress and celebrity sports azzes......

Funny.. I never pictured you as a Bob and Tom listener...
(that is their take too)

Post by **SMLCHNG** » February 13, 2008 9:03 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:3. While our nation's military is at war (our nation as a whole most certainly does not act like we're at war ) CONGRESS DAMN WELL HAS MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO SPEND MY TAX DOLLARS ON......

<<----- not PO'd at the thread, just at Congress and celebrity sports azzes......

Agreeing with Jen.. period.

TommyBahama · Post by **TommyBahama** » February 13, 2008 9:03 pm

Petite did Clemens in!!!.....Clemens saying Petite miss heard!!...Come on!!

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » February 13, 2008 9:05 pm

have thought he was a liar, and an attention whore ever since he "retired" the first time. and then came back. and retired again. and came back. and retired....

I am sorry. I am disgusted by the lack of professionalism on the part of the congressional delegation and their staffers who fawned all over a guy delivering testimony before them. you don't seem that when it is Micheal J. Fox looking for increased funding to fight Parkinson's.

I am disgusted by Clemens.. but then I have always figured he was too good to be true.

In the end, it isn't going to matter. He may not go in on the first ballot, but someone will start agitating by his 5th year of eligibility and he will be in.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 13, 2008 9:06 pm

ragtopW wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:1. I don't know who's telling the truth and I don't give a damn

2. Baseball is f'd up

3. While our nation's military is at war (our nation as a whole most certainly does not act like we're at war ) CONGRESS DAMN WELL HAS MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO SPEND MY TAX DOLLARS ON......

<<----- not PO'd at the thread, just at Congress and celebrity sports azzes......
Funny.. I never pictured you as a Bob and Tom listener...
(that is their take too)

I actually don't listen to Bob and Tom, but I guess it's nice to know someone else feels the same way!

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 13, 2008 9:08 pm

RinglingRingling wrote:I am sorry. I am disgusted by the lack of professionalism on the part of the congressional delegation and their staffers who fawned all over a guy delivering testimony before them. you don't seem that when it is Micheal J. Fox looking for increased funding to fight Parkinson's.

Yep.

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » February 13, 2008 9:10 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:1. I don't know who's telling the truth and I don't give a damn

2. Baseball is f'd up

3. While our nation's military is at war (our nation as a whole most certainly does not act like we're at war ) CONGRESS DAMN WELL HAS MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO SPEND MY TAX DOLLARS ON......

<<----- not PO'd at the thread, just at Congress and celebrity sports azzes......
Funny.. I never pictured you as a Bob and Tom listener...
(that is their take too)
I actually don't listen to Bob and Tom, but I guess it's nice to know someone else feels the same way!

I'm with ya, Jen!
While we may not always agree with certain aspects of the war that we're embroiled in,
we can agree that this BS that went on today was right up there with the Clarence Thomas hearings, in measure of ridiculousness

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 13, 2008 9:16 pm

Lightning Bolt wrote:we can agree that this BS that went on today was right up there with the Clarence Thomas hearings, in measure of ridiculousness

Right with ya!

springparrot · Post by **springparrot** » February 13, 2008 11:09 pm

I have been watching part of the rerun of the testimony---GOOD GRIEF

He said, he said, she said, he said, they said.........enough already.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 13, 2008 11:15 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:I am sorry. I am disgusted by the lack of professionalism on the part of the congressional delegation and their staffers who fawned all over a guy delivering testimony before them. you don't seem that when it is Micheal J. Fox looking for increased funding to fight Parkinson's.
Yep.

Lightning Bolt wrote:I'm with ya, Jen!

The three of us are basically in agreement??

I just felt the earth tilt on its axis.....

(Maybe a few Congressmen and celebs will therefore fall on their azzes.....

)

docandjeanie · Post by **docandjeanie** » February 13, 2008 11:34 pm

springparrot wrote:I have been watching part of the rerun of the testimony---GOOD GRIEF
He said, he said, she said, he said, they said.........enough already.

Really, don't know who is lying, don't care at all, my tax dollars are paying for this crap

SeattleParrotHead · Post by **SeattleParrotHead** » February 14, 2008 12:54 am

"You're here under oath, and yet we have lie after lie after lie." said Rep. Dan Burton, an Indiana Republican.

A Republican congressman calling someone a liar?

parrothead3282 · Post by **parrothead3282** » February 14, 2008 1:17 am

Could not care less about this whole situation. As others have said there are much more important matters that our gov't should be looking into. IMO they are both liars! Clemens took them and the trainer has lied about a lot of other things while on the stand. Send both of them away for 6 months (thats all Marion Jones got), get this circus over with, and try to fix something that is going to help the people of this nation more than if a multimillionarie took drugs from his trainer.