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cowboyjunkie wrote:Here's my view from inside the industry:

The restaurant industry as a whole is about to contract and weaker concepts like CiP will not be around. There are several factors shrinking the margins to the point that only the best run, strongest places can survive. The cost of oil is having a huge impact on the price of goods, especially when you factor in shipping. The right wing attack on immigration seems to be dying down but that would cripple the service industry further. Hourly wage laws, particularly in California, are also wreaking havoc with cash flow. For example, restaurants in San Francisco pay over $9 per hour for each waiter plus another $1+ per hour to the city for a local health tax. They are also required to have formal break periods and the employees get paid sick days if their roommate is out sick. With that plan, most waiters worth their salt can out earn most of the management team. Not to mention places like NYC requiring Trans Fat Free oil and calorie listings on menus which are expensive changes. All these additional costs are making it almost impossible to operate at a profit. As a liberal, I'm excited about these changes but the industry will be greatly changed.

In the last year in Hawaii, I've seen all the TGI Fridays, Jackie Chan's, and a Hooters close their doors. This has been a windfall of talent for my operation and we're, so far, lucky to be seeing a rise in sales. The shift to fast casual dining (think Chipolte or Noodles & Co.) concepts makes sense if you're opening a restaurant. Putting your stores in foreign markets like Dubai also makes a lot of sense right now.

I'm hungry now...

As an outsider I am suspecting you're correct... and it will get worse.

Has anybody else noticed chain restaurants closing down?
Two of our local Bennigan's have closed.

freaky4tiki wrote:

catsway wrote:Last night while sipping our cocktails at the Sandestin (Destin), Fl. location, a staffer there confided that the entire CiP chain is on the market and that Margaritaville Enterprises is looking at the possibility of aquiring it....
Don't shoot the messenger, just what we heard.

interesting... hopefully this is good news. but why would Mville want to buy a chain that's struggling?

according to the SEC filings, Mville has first dibs on buying the chain if they don't make their expansion plan numbers.

bravedave wrote:
Has anybody else noticed chain restaurants closing down?
Two of our local Bennigan's have closed.

They could shut every Applebee's in the U.S. down and I wouldn't miss a lick. It's only good if you're coming home from a concert and don't feel like going to Krystal or Waffle House.

mrmiata wrote:

bravedave wrote:
Has anybody else noticed chain restaurants closing down?
Two of our local Bennigan's have closed.

They could shut every Applebee's in the U.S. down and I wouldn't miss a lick. It's only good if you're coming home from a concert and don't feel like going to Krystal or Waffle House.

The only thing Applebee's is good for is 1/2 price appetizers after 10, which is perfect to finish off the night after going to see a movie, bowling, etc. with friends.

bravedave wrote:

cowboyjunkie wrote:Here's my view from inside the industry:

The restaurant industry as a whole is about to contract and weaker concepts like CiP will not be around. There are several factors shrinking the margins to the point that only the best run, strongest places can survive. The cost of oil is having a huge impact on the price of goods, especially when you factor in shipping. The right wing attack on immigration seems to be dying down but that would cripple the service industry further. Hourly wage laws, particularly in California, are also wreaking havoc with cash flow. For example, restaurants in San Francisco pay over $9 per hour for each waiter plus another $1+ per hour to the city for a local health tax. They are also required to have formal break periods and the employees get paid sick days if their roommate is out sick. With that plan, most waiters worth their salt can out earn most of the management team. Not to mention places like NYC requiring Trans Fat Free oil and calorie listings on menus which are expensive changes. All these additional costs are making it almost impossible to operate at a profit. As a liberal, I'm excited about these changes but the industry will be greatly changed.

In the last year in Hawaii, I've seen all the TGI Fridays, Jackie Chan's, and a Hooters close their doors. This has been a windfall of talent for my operation and we're, so far, lucky to be seeing a rise in sales. The shift to fast casual dining (think Chipolte or Noodles & Co.) concepts makes sense if you're opening a restaurant. Putting your stores in foreign markets like Dubai also makes a lot of sense right now.

I'm hungry now...

As an outsider I am suspecting you're correct... and it will get worse.

Has anybody else noticed chain restaurants closing down?
Two of our local Bennigan's have closed.

I suspect they're wrong. I suspect it because they try to hard to make it a political issue except for the cities that crazy people run.

I would argue that service is biggest reason yet there are restaurants I will no longer go to because the service is so slow and poor that I just won't stand for it yet these very restaurants have so much business, it is part of the reason the service is so bad, but other than myself the hordes continue to come. This causes me to think I don't really understand what makes a successfull restaurant.

Perhaps you just need a good location, adequate management, and a theme that motivates people to come to your restaurant and as long as you have that they will come in droves?

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

freaky4tiki wrote:

catsway wrote:Last night while sipping our cocktails at the Sandestin (Destin), Fl. location, a staffer there confided that the entire CiP chain is on the market and that Margaritaville Enterprises is looking at the possibility of aquiring it....
Don't shoot the messenger, just what we heard.

interesting... hopefully this is good news. but why would Mville want to buy a chain that's struggling?

according to the SEC filings, Mville has first dibs on buying the chain if they don't make their expansion plan numbers.

first dibs at leftovers... hmmm not a bad idea.

with gas predicted to go over $4 a gallon by the summer, I'm not going to have a lot of extra $$ to pay a higher price for dinner, the cost of which is increased to compensate for higher shipping charges from wholesalers.

"fast and casual" like Cowboy says-- going to be the way to go.

catsway wrote:Last night while sipping our cocktails at the Sandestin (Destin), Fl. location, a staffer there confided that the entire CiP chain is on the market and that Margaritaville Enterprises is looking at the possibility of aquiring it....
Don't shoot the messenger, just what we heard.

Now that WOULD be cool. Seriously, my first visit to a CIP was great and then the longer the chain was removed from Jimmy's direct influence, the worse it got.


On the other hand, I've NEVER had a bad experience at a Margaritaville Cafe. (Some of y'all probably have, but still...)

C'mon Jimmy, buy CIP back!

krusin1 wrote:

catsway wrote:Last night while sipping our cocktails at the Sandestin (Destin), Fl. location, a staffer there confided that the entire CiP chain is on the market and that Margaritaville Enterprises is looking at the possibility of aquiring it....
Don't shoot the messenger, just what we heard.

Now that WOULD be cool. Seriously, my first visit to a CIP was great and then the longer the chain was removed from Jimmy's direct influence, the worse it got.


On the other hand, I've NEVER had a bad experience at a Margaritaville Cafe. (Some of y'all probably have, but still...)

C'mon Jimmy, buy CIP back!

It would surprise me if Jimmy (through his main behind-the-scenes business guy - one of the brightest people I've ever met) opted to buy CiP. Don't get me wrong, it should have been that way years ago, but I doubt they want the headache. If it were larger, and a bigger brand more connected to Jimmy, perhaps, but not as a rescue/turnaround thing. Now I could see M'ville Holdings helping out a sensible buyer - if one surfaced. AF is correct - the contractual rights Jimmy has are complicated, and his interest is well protected, but he would certainly have the final say so on who gets to keep it going if Outback wants out.

Sad what's happened to it. They tried running it like Outback, but it never should have been looked at that way. Many problems, no willingness or ability to see what they really had. Hope it survives, but it doesn't look real good. Too bad.

Does anyone know if CIP bottles their own "island ale" ?? If so, is it available for purchase..? That beer is excellent. Probably one of my favorite reasons for eating there in the first place. well...that and the ambience....and of course Cheeseburgers (reasonably priced by the way).

parrothead597 wrote:Does anyone know if CIP bottles their own "island ale" ?? If so, is it available for purchase..? That beer is excellent. Probably one of my favorite reasons for eating there in the first place. well...that and the ambience....and of course Cheeseburgers (reasonably priced by the way).

I believe the Island Ale is bottled for them by Leinenkugel's

Like the Huntington Beach phan, I agree we need Jimmy something in California.

Margaritaville San Diego in the Gaslamp, or Margaritaville Newport Beach with docks to pull up the boat (Jimmy, are you listening my friend?)

Other cool location options:

- Irvine Spectrum (near Irvine Meadows, Jimmy's fav west coast venue).
- Catalina Island/Avalon
- Dana Point Harbor
- Long Beach Marina

Just a thought......we promise to go often.

I may have to make a pilgrimage to the MD CIP this weekend for at least one last visit. I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

Anyone know the "fate" of the Exton, PA location..? I'd like to at least go one last time before anyone drops the guillotine on it.

SDPirate40 wrote:Like the Huntington Beach phan, I agree we need Jimmy something in California.

Margaritaville San Diego in the Gaslamp, or Margaritaville Newport Beach with docks to pull up the boat (Jimmy, are you listening my friend?)

Other cool location options:

- Irvine Spectrum (near Irvine Meadows, Jimmy's fav west coast venue).
- Catalina Island/Avalon
- Dana Point Harbor
- Long Beach Marina

Just a thought......we promise to go often.

OMG someone on this board from So. Cal. other than me. Hello SDPiirate! Hey, if you know Newport Beach, do you remember the Margaritaville restaurant and bar that was on PCH? It closed about 5 years ago, but I remember drinking beer there more than 25 years ago. After becoming a parrothead, I always wondered how they got away with using the name, unless they had named the place before Jimmy had copywrote the name. Anyone know when Jimmy registered for copywrite protection? By the way, I doubt Avalon would work for a place the size of his current Margaritavilles ...not enough trade year 'round, but when I was in Vegas last October he said his people were looking into him performing on the island this year (2008), so I'm crossing my feathers.

Ukulady wrote:

SDPirate40 wrote:Like the Huntington Beach phan, I agree we need Jimmy something in California.

Margaritaville San Diego in the Gaslamp, or Margaritaville Newport Beach with docks to pull up the boat (Jimmy, are you listening my friend?)

Other cool location options:

- Irvine Spectrum (near Irvine Meadows, Jimmy's fav west coast venue).
- Catalina Island/Avalon
- Dana Point Harbor
- Long Beach Marina

Just a thought......we promise to go often.

OMG someone on this board from So. Cal. other than me. Hello SDPiirate! Hey, if you know Newport Beach, do you remember the Margaritaville restaurant and bar that was on PCH? It closed about 5 years ago, but I remember drinking beer there more than 25 years ago. After becoming a parrothead, I always wondered how they got away with using the name, unless they had named the place before Jimmy had copywrote the name. Anyone know when Jimmy registered for copywrite protection? By the way, I doubt Avalon would work for a place the size of his current Margaritavilles ...not enough trade year 'round, but when I was in Vegas last October he said his people were looking into him performing on the island this year (2008), so I'm crossing my feathers.

Ukulady....

Hello from San Clemente, just moved from San Diego. You are right of course, Avalon could not support year round. We will stick with Laui Larry's.

I have strayed into the old Margaritaville on PCH in Newport on many a Sunday. Even rented the place for company events. Alas, now a memory as you note. This was always a bootleg Margaritaville, just like the bootleg CIP in Lahaina Maui owned by two women who somehow worked it out with Jimmy.

Great rumor about Jimmy on Avalon! This would be a huge win/win. I have a 53' boat and make the Catalina run several times a year. Wow, this would be HUGE. Maybe it will be during the Jazz fest.

There are around a dozen or soBNer's in So Cal who post. Most of the guys are from San Diego and are all great folks. You can find me at the Jimmy shows pre-parties in a 45' gold/black tour bus with "FINS BUS" plates. The entourage and I are all friendly. We are also going to Eagles in Indo, Chesney in San Diego, Tom Petty in Irvine, etc. Stop by.

Sidew13 wrote:

nutmeg wrote:The one in Michigan closed too.

I know along with Ashville. Wonder if ALL CiPs will close down?

OSI is attempting to sell off the brand. In the meantime, they are shutting down some of the less profitable locations. Most are safe, but I'm sure a couple more will shut their doors before the sale.

We want to sell to someone who is interested in developing and expanding the brand, so the chain shouldn't die completely.

nutmeg wrote:The one in Michigan closed too.

One did, still two others in Michigan.

SDPirate40 wrote:

Ukulady wrote:

SDPirate40 wrote:Like the Huntington Beach phan, I agree we need Jimmy something in California.

Margaritaville San Diego in the Gaslamp, or Margaritaville Newport Beach with docks to pull up the boat (Jimmy, are you listening my friend?)

Other cool location options:

- Irvine Spectrum (near Irvine Meadows, Jimmy's fav west coast venue).
- Catalina Island/Avalon
- Dana Point Harbor
- Long Beach Marina

Just a thought......we promise to go often.

OMG someone on this board from So. Cal. other than me. Hello SDPiirate! Hey, if you know Newport Beach, do you remember the Margaritaville restaurant and bar that was on PCH? It closed about 5 years ago, but I remember drinking beer there more than 25 years ago. After becoming a parrothead, I always wondered how they got away with using the name, unless they had named the place before Jimmy had copywrote the name. Anyone know when Jimmy registered for copywrite protection? By the way, I doubt Avalon would work for a place the size of his current Margaritavilles ...not enough trade year 'round, but when I was in Vegas last October he said his people were looking into him performing on the island this year (2008), so I'm crossing my feathers.

Ukulady....

Hello from San Clemente, just moved from San Diego. You are right of course, Avalon could not support year round. We will stick with Laui Larry's.

I have strayed into the old Margaritaville on PCH in Newport on many a Sunday. Even rented the place for company events. Alas, now a memory as you note. This was always a bootleg Margaritaville, just like the bootleg CIP in Lahaina Maui owned by two women who somehow worked it out with Jimmy.

Great rumor about Jimmy on Avalon! This would be a huge win/win. I have a 53' boat and make the Catalina run several times a year. Wow, this would be HUGE. Maybe it will be during the Jazz fest.

There are around a dozen or soBNer's in So Cal who post. Most of the guys are from San Diego and are all great folks. You can find me at the Jimmy shows pre-parties in a 45' gold/black tour bus with "FINS BUS" plates. The entourage and I are all friendly. We are also going to Eagles in Indo, Chesney in San Diego, Tom Petty in Irvine, etc. Stop by.

Avalon wasn't just a rumor, I heard it straight from the man.....me and 16,000 others at the concert so I'm hoping he wouldn't just say it if it wasn't a possibility. Won't that be great...our own Anguilla, just 26 miles away.....a 53' boat and a tour bus? I definately want to be your friend.lol

Summary of remaining CIP's....if yours is not on this list, it is likely gone.



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DELAWARE

4801 NEWARK, DE
MP: DANIEL PY
40 Geoffrey Drive
Newark, DE 19713
Open Date: 11/20/06
Phone: (302) 368--9060
Fax Phone: (302) 368--9062
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: CHRISTOPHER ROBERTSON



FLORIDA

5002 FT MYERS, FL
MP: NICK COMMARATO
5050 Daniels Parkway
Ft. Myers, FL 33912
Open Date: 04/16/07
Phone: (239) 481--4386
Fax Phone: (239) 454--3843

5003 CORAL GABLES, FL
MP: LORI TULLY-BALL
5701 Sunset Drive
Suite 162
South Miami, FL 33143-5357
Open Date: 03/19/07
Phone: (305) 665--4386
Fax Phone: (305) 665--8269

5005 SANDESTIN, FL
MP: SCOTT RAVEN
10562 US Hwy 98
Suite 168
Sandestin, FL 32550
Open Date: 09/10/07
Phone: (850) 837--0197
Fax Phone: (850) 837--0866




GEORGIA

5101 DUNWOODY, GA
MP: KELLY FOUST
1230 Ashford Crossing
Atlanta, GA 30346
Open Date: 11/29/05
Phone: (770) 730--0782
Fax Phone: (770) 730--0815
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: MATTHEW WISSMAN



ILLINOIS

5401 DOWNERS GROVE
MP: JOE ZAVADOVICS
2970 Finley Rd.
Downer's Grove, IL 60515
Open Date: 11/04/03
Phone: (630) 953--7095
Fax Phone: (630) 953--8925

5402 ALGONQUIN
MP: STEVE PRZYBYCIEN
1608 S. Randall Road
Algonquin, IL 60102
Open Date: 11/23/04
Phone: (847) 658--9627
Fax Phone: (847) 658--9634

5404 DES PLAINES
MP: TOM FREMAREK
1472 Market Street
Des Plaines, IL 60016
Open Date: 12/13/05
Phone: (847) 299--3657
Fax Phone: (847) 299--3782

INDIANA
5501 INDIANAPOLIS
MP: KENNY BLAND
4670 Southport Crossing Dr.
Indianapolis, IN 46237
Open Date: 08/22/02
Phone: (317) 883--4386
Fax Phone: (317) 883--4086
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: RENO KNIGHT (317) 523--9112

5502 INDIANAPOLIS (FISHERS)
MP: CHRIS ALLEN
9770 Crosspoint Blvd
Fishers, IN 46256
Open Date: 08/02/05
Phone: (317) 585--0247
Fax Phone: (317) 585--0269
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: RENO KNIGHT (317) 523--9112

5503 BLOOMINGTON
MP: SCOTT MORRIS
2550 E. 3rd Steet
Bloomington, IN 47401
Open Date: 06/14/05
Phone: (812) 332--2295
Fax Phone: (812) 332--2342

5504 MUNCIE, IN
MP: CLINT PITTS
1705 West McGalliard Road
Muncie, IN 47304
Open Date: 11/01/05
Phone: (765) 284--6905
Fax Phone: (765) 284--7248

5505 TERRE HAUTE, IN
MP: JAY BENNETT
3830 S. US Highway 41
Terre Haute, IN 47802
Open Date: 07/17/06
Phone: (812) 234--3020
Fax Phone: (812) 234--3057

5506 EVANSVILLE, IN
MP: JOHN SHAVER
8301 Eagle Lake Drive
Evansville, IN 47715-8165
Open Date: 11/06/06
Phone: (812) 475--1074
Fax Phone: (812) 475--1413


KANSAS

5701 KC SPEEDWAY
MP: MAC TAYLOR
1705 Village West Parkway
Kansas City, KS 66111
Open Date: 11/30/04
Phone: (913) 334--4500
Fax Phone: (913) 334--4507
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: RON ENGLUND (813) 375--2087



MARYLAND

6101 PASADENA, MD
MP: JOHN SPARKMAN
8028 Ritchie Highway
Pasadena, MD 21122
Open Date: 03/08/05
Phone: (410) 761--1003
Fax Phone: (410) 761--4158
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: CRAIG BRIGGS

6102 CALIFORNIA, MD
MP: JOSH MITCHELL
23415 Three Notch Rd.
California, MD 20619
Open Date: 08/22/06
Phone: (301) 863--0489
Fax Phone: (301) 863--8465



MICHIGAN

6301 KALAMAZOO, MI
MP: NICK AMBROSELLI
5609 West Main
Kalamazoo, MI 49009
Open Date: 07/26/05
Phone: (269) 342--0825
Fax Phone: (269) 342--0840
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: JERRY SULLIVAN (574) 286--2114

6302 STERLING HEIGHTS
MP: BILL DAUGHERTY
13883 Lakeside Circle
Sterling Heights, MI 48313
Open Date: 12/13/05
Phone: (586) 532--9826
Fax Phone: (586) 532--9828




NORTH CAROLINA

7402 HUNTERSVILLE
MP: DONALD ALSPAUGH
16203 Northcross Drive
Huntersville, NC 28078-5078
Open Date: 01/22/07
Phone: (704) 892--2822
Fax Phone: (704) 892--7110
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: MATTHEW WISSMAN



NEBRASKA

6801 OMAHA
MP: MICHAEL LEONARD
17304 Davenport St.
#100
Omaha, NE 68118
Open Date: 05/18/04
Phone: (402) 289--4210
Fax Phone: (402) 289--4733
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: RON ENGLUND (813) 375--2087



NEW JERSEY

7101 SECAUCUS
MP: HECTOR REYES
700 Plaza Drive
Secaucus, NJ 07094
Open Date: 12/14/04
Phone: (201) 392--0500
Fax Phone: (201) 392--3882
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: GREG LYNN (630) 845--1837

7102 ISELIN, NJ
MP: CHRIS CREAN
625 US Highway 1 South
Iselin, NJ 08830-3102
Open Date: 04/23/07
Phone: (732) 636--3767
Fax Phone: (732) 636--3769

7103 WAYNE, NJ
MP: MARK KAMINSKI
334 Route 46 East
Wayne, NJ 07470
Open Date: 05/14/07
Phone: (973) 237--9091
Fax Phone: (973) 237--9095

NEW YORK

7302 MIDDLETOWN, NY
MP: BILL DAVIDSON
340 Route 211 East
Middletown, NY 10940-2116
Open Date: 02/15/05
Phone: (845) 343--9252
Fax Phone: (845) 343--9255
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: GREG LYNN (630) 845--1837



OHIO

7601 CINCINNATI
MP: MARK MAZDRA
812 East Gate N. Drive
Cincinnati, OH 45245
Open Date: 02/01/05
Phone: (513) 753--4593
Fax Phone: (513) 753--5032
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: JERRY SULLIVAN (574) 286--2114

7602 POLARIS
MP: PAUL ROBERTS
8665 Sancus Blvd.
Columbus, OH 43240
Open Date: 12/07/04
Phone: (614) 785--1640
Fax Phone: (614) 785--1646
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: JERRY SULLIVAN (574) 286--2114

7603 HILLIARD
MP: MICHAEL LASTOSKI
4081 Trueman Blvd.
Hilliard, OH 43026
Open Date: 09/20/05
Phone: (614) 876--3607
Fax Phone: (614) 876--4580

7604 CANTON
MP: STEVE ECKHARDT
5075 Dressler Rd. NW
Canton, OH 44718
Open Date: 01/17/06
Phone: (330) 491--0617
Fax Phone: (330) 491--0483


OKLAHOMA

7701 OKLAHOMA CITY
MP: RANDY LARGENT
3109 West Memorial Road
Oklahoma City, OK 73134
Open Date: 01/17/06
Phone: (405) 748--8922
Fax Phone: (405) 748--8882
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: RON ENGLUND (813) 375--2087



PENNSYLVANIA

7904 OXFORD VALLEY, PA
MP: JOE SANTO
750 Middletown Blvd.
Langhorne, PA 19047
Open Date: 01/10/06
Phone: (215) 757--3179
Fax Phone: (215) 750--3707
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: CHRISTOPHER ROBERTSON

7905 EXTON, PA
MP: JIM HATFIELD
116 N. Pottstown Pike
Exton, PA 19341
Open Date: 05/24/06
Phone: (484) 875--4502
Fax Phone: (484) 875--4506



SOUTH CAROLINA

8101 MYRTLE BEACH
MP: BILL MORRILL
7211 N. Kings Highway
Myrtle Beach, SC 29572
Open Date: 10/19/04
Phone: (843) 497--3891
Fax Phone: (843) 692--7079
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: MATTHEW WISSMAN



VIRGINIA

8701 FREDERICKSBURG
MP: MARK BLESI
1811 Carl D. Silver Parkway
Fredericksburg, VA 22401
Open Date: 03/16/04
Phone: (540) 548--2635
Fax Phone: (540) 548--3483
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: CRAIG BRIGGS

8702 WOODBRIDGE, VA
MP: ANNA SANTINA
14000 FOULGER SQUARE
WOODBRIDGE, VA 22192
Open Date: 05/10/05
Phone: (703) 580--0214
Fax Phone: (703) 580--0216

8703 NEWPORT NEWS, VA
MP: MICHAEL PASQUALE
12361 Hornsby Lane
Newport News, VA 23602
Open Date: 09/13/05
Phone: (757) 269--4940
Fax Phone: (757) 269--4942

8704 VIRGINIA BEACH
MP: JOHN HENDERSON
739 Lynnhaven Parkway
Suite 200
Virginia Beach, VA 23452
Open Date: 11/08/05
Phone: (757) 498--1518
Fax Phone: (757) 463--0615

8705 CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
MP: MARK HURLEY
1101 Seminole Trail
Charlottesville, VA 22901
Open Date: 05/02/06
Phone: (434) 975--4386
Fax Phone: (434) 566--5507


WISCONSIN

8801 MIDDLETON
MP: MILES MCCONNELL
1601 Aspen Commons
Middleton, WI 53562
Open Date: 01/12/04
Phone: (608) 831--2413
Fax Phone: (608) 831--2540
RVP: ( RVP Information Not Available )
JVP: GREG LYNN (630) 845--1837

Ukulady wrote:

SDPirate40 wrote:

Ukulady wrote:

SDPirate40 wrote:Like the Huntington Beach phan, I agree we need Jimmy something in California.

Margaritaville San Diego in the Gaslamp, or Margaritaville Newport Beach with docks to pull up the boat (Jimmy, are you listening my friend?)

Other cool location options:

- Irvine Spectrum (near Irvine Meadows, Jimmy's fav west coast venue).
- Catalina Island/Avalon
- Dana Point Harbor
- Long Beach Marina

Just a thought......we promise to go often.

OMG someone on this board from So. Cal. other than me. Hello SDPiirate! Hey, if you know Newport Beach, do you remember the Margaritaville restaurant and bar that was on PCH? It closed about 5 years ago, but I remember drinking beer there more than 25 years ago. After becoming a parrothead, I always wondered how they got away with using the name, unless they had named the place before Jimmy had copywrote the name. Anyone know when Jimmy registered for copywrite protection? By the way, I doubt Avalon would work for a place the size of his current Margaritavilles ...not enough trade year 'round, but when I was in Vegas last October he said his people were looking into him performing on the island this year (2008), so I'm crossing my feathers.

Ukulady....

Hello from San Clemente, just moved from San Diego. You are right of course, Avalon could not support year round. We will stick with Laui Larry's.

I have strayed into the old Margaritaville on PCH in Newport on many a Sunday. Even rented the place for company events. Alas, now a memory as you note. This was always a bootleg Margaritaville, just like the bootleg CIP in Lahaina Maui owned by two women who somehow worked it out with Jimmy.

Great rumor about Jimmy on Avalon! This would be a huge win/win. I have a 53' boat and make the Catalina run several times a year. Wow, this would be HUGE. Maybe it will be during the Jazz fest.

There are around a dozen or soBNer's in So Cal who post. Most of the guys are from San Diego and are all great folks. You can find me at the Jimmy shows pre-parties in a 45' gold/black tour bus with "FINS BUS" plates. The entourage and I are all friendly. We are also going to Eagles in Indo, Chesney in San Diego, Tom Petty in Irvine, etc. Stop by.

Avalon wasn't just a rumor, I heard it straight from the man.....me and 16,000 others at the concert so I'm hoping he wouldn't just say it if it wasn't a possibility. Won't that be great...our own Anguilla, just 26 miles away.....a 53' boat and a tour bus? I definately want to be your friend.lol

In a noisy bar in Avalon I tried to call you.