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Barack Hussein Obama's transcript

It provides a lot to think about. I agree with a lot of what he says. I still wouldn't vote for a candidate as liberal as him, but like it or not there is a huge racial divide still in this country. I think the leading democratic candidate does an excellent job of communicating it here.

Incredible.
I only hope the media makes as much of this as they did of running that stupid You Tube thing over and over.

Skibo wrote:Barack Hussein Obama's transcript

It provides a lot to think about. I agree with a lot of what he says. I still wouldn't vote for a candidate as liberal as him, but like it or not there is a huge racial divide still in this country. I think the leading democratic candidate does an excellent job of communicating it here.

I read the whole thing, and as a right wing nutjob, here's my take...


That was an incredible speech.


Well written (and I'm sure well-delivered), and sensible. It's also the the first time I've heard something other than "off with his/her head" (or reasonable facsimile) in a long time.

Despite my right-wing views, I continue to be impressed with Mr. Obama. I disagree with a lot of the votes he has cast, but I appreciate his tone and seeming "reasonableness."

Skibo,

I thought u were supporting Huckabee?

The Huckster went down. I am now a free agent. I am rooting for Osama to win the democratic primary. It is the best hope to actually have a competition of ideas instead of the republican mud machine against the clinton spin machine. I want to see some debates where the two candidates discuss their ideas and policies. Osama will force that because the republicans will be afraid to smear him for fear of the racist label. Hillary would be fair game because well she is a clinton that would do anything including murder.

Skibo wrote:The Huckster went down. I am now a free agent. I am rooting for Osama to win the democratic primary. It is the best hope to actually have a competition of ideas instead of the republican mud machine against the clinton spin machine. I want to see some debates where the two candidates discuss their ideas and policies. Osama will force that because the republicans will be afraid to smear him for fear of the racist label. Hillary would be fair game because well she is a clinton that would do anything including murder.

Skibo,

Thanks. Your reference to Senator Obama as "Osama" is indicative of the fear mongering which I think the religious right is going to engage in to attempt to quash Senator Obama's campaign of change and hope.

I love it when people are consistent in their hate mongering. Makes it easier that way.

By the way, Senator Obama's middle name is "Hussein", not "Osama". You have utterly no basis for calling him "Osama" other than in trying to perpetuate a wretched stereotype.

With your ideology as such, I am literally wasting my time in responding.

Funny, it was Teddy Kennedy that first made the slip of the tongue on the Obama name. The extreme right wing is so hung up on his militant america hating priest that I don't think they will ever get to his ties to terrorism smear. It really is ashame that the American electorate isn't smart enough to select a candidate on issues instead of name calling and fear mongering. As I stated above, I think he is an outstanding candidate and am rooting for him to be the dem nominee. If he wasn't so liberal I would vote for him. If he was a republican - even a moderate republican I would be donating and volunteering to support his campaign.

I think someone else beside Teddy said it first......

Catch&Release wrote:Skibo,

Thanks. Your reference to Senator Obama as "Osama" is indicative of the fear mongering which I think the religious right is going to engage in to attempt to quash Senator Obama's campaign of change and hope.

Don't you think the fear mongering has already started with Hillary Clinton and her "3am phone call" ad?

I'm starting to like him more and more! Very eloquent speech and I can really agree with his views.

Bill Richardson announced that he is backing Obama. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23740104

He's been hurting with the hispanic vote, maybe this will help him a little.

Skibo wrote:Barack Hussein Obama's transcript

I guess I don't understand the point of posting his middle name here.

It's not commonly used, so what gives?

I don't think Obama can get elected after this all came out. He says he can no more dis-own the Reverend than he could dis-own his white Grandmother, but I disagree with that statement. He didn't choose who his Grandmother was, but he chose to keep going back to the Reverends church for 20 years and assigned him to his political team as well. He gave a tremendous speech, but all his political opponents will have to do is keep playing the "God Damn America" Speech and it will frighten White America into not voting for him. Just remember if Karl Rove can take a war hero, who volunteered to go to Vietnam, and make him seem to be more of a coward than a Draft Dodger, they will have a hey day with Obama. I like him, but I don't think he can be elected now. Better that this all came out now than in October before the big election.

First, the disclaimers: I hate politics and dislike most politicians. There are no statesmen in the 2008 Presidential race, only politicians. I am not a supporter of any of the three leading candidates. Whether or not I agree with his politics (and I'm not saying), I like Barack Obama as a human being.

All that said, I think this is a good speech, but perhaps not good enough to offset the idea that Obama's political aspirations should have led him to distance himself from his preacher long ago. The thought that he can't disown his preacher is absurd. Of course he could. The only people you really can't get rid of are your blood relatives.

Reverend Jeremiah Wright's comments were hate-filled and dispicable, but guess what... I've heard the exact same words, "God damn America" out of the mouths of white pastors, in white churches, too, and it was just as dispicable. I elected to sever myself from that pastor and I left that church, simply because of a sense of right and wrong, never mind any political reasons. Barack Obama should have done the same, if he wanted to be able to claim the right to lead this country and represent its people....

I know one thing... I'm sick and tired of hearing over and over about race, creed, color, gender, age, "change", etc, etc, etc, and virtually NOTHING meaningful about the important issues before us. I'm sick of candidates telling us how crappy their opponents are, without a word of solid planning for how *they* would run things. "Pick me, I'm better than the others" without one damn reason WHY they're better.....

Frankly, I don't like the idea of any of the three leading candidates being elected president.... but given that limited choice, I'd at least like to hear how they'd plan to run things.....

Bravo, Jen. EXACTLY how I feel.

BrianM wrote:I don't think Obama can get elected after this all came out. He says he can no more dis-own the Reverend than he could dis-own his white Grandmother, but I disagree with that statement. He didn't choose who his Grandmother was, but he chose to keep going back to the Reverends church for 20 years and assigned him to his political team as well. He gave a tremendous speech, but all his political opponents will have to do is keep playing the "God Damn America" Speech and it will frighten White America into not voting for him. Just remember if Karl Rove can take a war hero, who volunteered to go to Vietnam, and make him seem to be more of a coward than a Draft Dodger, they will have a hey day with Obama. I like him, but I don't think he can be elected now. Better that this all came out now than in October before the big election.

He is still electable, it is a little tougher now, but he is more electable than hillary. That church in Chicago is one of the largest TUCC's in the country. There are over 1000 members, both rich and poor. Oprah Winfrey has also attended this church. In the clips I have seen, his audience wasn't booing him, they were cheering in agreement. Instead if wondering why the congregration agreed with the statements, Barack was just accused of hating america. That church has done a lot of good for the community it is in. While I personally do not agree with the statements, I certainly understand his position.

SchoolGirlHeart wrote: I know one thing... I'm sick and tired of hearing over and over about race, creed, color, gender, age, "change", etc, etc, etc, and virtually NOTHING meaningful about the important issues before us. ?

So what you're saying is that racism and discrimination aren't meaningful issues? That's the way I'm interpreting it, at least.

Sure, social security, welfare, taxes, national security, etc. are important ... but at what point does racism and/or discrimination of people not trump that?

I'd rather live in a society where people got along and then fought the battles before them instead of fighting the battles and never getting anything done because we can't get along.

LIPH wrote:

Catch&Release wrote:Skibo,

Thanks. Your reference to Senator Obama as "Osama" is indicative of the fear mongering which I think the religious right is going to engage in to attempt to quash Senator Obama's campaign of change and hope.

Don't you think the fear mongering has already started with Hillary Clinton and her "3am phone call" ad?

Have you seen this week's New Yorker? Hysterical ... IMHO.

indymiller24 wrote:

SchoolGirlHeart wrote: I know one thing... I'm sick and tired of hearing over and over about race, creed, color, gender, age, "change", etc, etc, etc, and virtually NOTHING meaningful about the important issues before us. ?

So what you're saying is that racism and discrimination aren't meaningful issues? That's the way I'm interpreting it, at least.

Sure, social security, welfare, taxes, national security, etc. are important ... but at what point does racism and/or discrimination of people not trump that?

I'd rather live in a society where people got along and then fought the battles before them instead of fighting the battles and never getting anything done because we can't get along.

Nothing MEANINGFUL... The fact that Obama is African-American, Clinton is female, and McCain is older aren't meaningful issues. Each campaign has made them issues, and it's ridiculous.

East Texas Parrothead wrote:Have you seen this week's New Yorker? Hysterical ... IMHO.

The three-legged race? Hysterical, yes, but also a sad commentary....

Unfortunately, the best man or woman for this job is sitting on their porch drinking a hot or cold beverage of their choice thinking, "No way in HELL I'd want to be President. You couldn't PAY me enough...."