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I would have to put Lita Ford in the top 25 even though she was not a band

FunkHouse9 wrote:
"The Best of Nelson" That CD must be a single!

BEST OF NELSON


Hello Mary Lou! Travelin' Man! Poor Little Fool! Garden Party!

NOW that's a Hair Band!

OK, here's the hair list from an '80's metal head. (from hair to thrash, to hard rock and all in between, I listened to it all!)

25 - Slaughter
24 - Black n Blue
23 - Skid Row
22 - Autograph
21 - Winger
20 - Quiet Riot
19 - Guns n Roses - they really weren't "hair", but make it for Sweet Child and Axl's hair from the Welcome to the Jungle video, a nod to glam
18 - David Lee Roth solo
17 - Tesla - another band not really "hair" but there's a glam/hard rock crossover which really makes "hair" and they are a good hard rock band
16 - Loverboy
15 - Night Ranger - were big right before hair really broke through
14 - Damn Yankees
13 - Twisted Sister
12 - KISS - For about 4 - 5 albums there they were VERY hair. Way too much neon and ribbons!!!!!
11 - Warrant
10 - Cinderella
9 - Def Leppard - Another band with a broader category than "hair"
8 - Whitesnake
7 - White Lion
6 - Poison
5 - Dokken
4 - Bon Jovi - added a little Springsteen (wannabe at least) to the writing
3 - RATT
2 - Motley Crue
1 - Van Halen - they created the template almost every hair band followed. Blistering guitar solos, great melodies, sing a long choruses, pretty lead singer.

Honorable mention - Hanoi Rocks, Nelson, Extreme, Europe, Vixen, Firehouse, Britney Fox, Frehley's Comet, Bullet Boys, Lita Ford, Trixter & Mr. Big

ConchRepublican wrote:OK, here's the hair list from an '80's metal head. (from hair to thrash, to hard rock and all in between, I listened to it all!)

25 - Slaughter
24 - Black n Blue
23 - Skid Row
22 - Autograph
21 - Winger
20 - Quiet Riot
19 - Guns n Roses - they really weren't "hair", but make it for Sweet Child and Axl's hair from the Welcome to the Jungle video, a nod to glam
18 - David Lee Roth solo
17 - Tesla - another band not really "hair" but there's a glam/hard rock crossover which really makes "hair" and they are a good hard rock band
16 - Loverboy
15 - Night Ranger - were big right before hair really broke through
14 - Damn Yankees
13 - Twisted Sister
12 - KISS - For about 4 - 5 albums there they were VERY hair. Way too much neon and ribbons!!!!!
11 - Warrant
10 - Cinderella
9 - Def Leppard - Another band with a broader category than "hair"
8 - Whitesnake
7 - White Lion
6 - Poison
5 - Dokken
4 - Bon Jovi - added a little Springsteen (wannabe at least) to the writing
3 - RATT
2 - Motley Crue
1 - Van Halen - they created the template almost every hair band followed. Blistering guitar solos, great melodies, sing a long choruses, pretty lead singer.

Honorable mention - Hanoi Rocks, Nelson, Extreme, Europe, Vixen, Firehouse, Britney Fox, Frehley's Comet, Bullet Boys, Lita Ford, Trixter & Mr. Big

If you move White Lion to the honorable mention list and replace it with the Scorpions, then switch the positions of Ratt and Def Leppard you've got my vote

Hockey Mon wrote:

FunkHouse9 wrote:

Hockey Mon wrote:

FunkHouse9 wrote:That's a pretty lousy list. The only thing hair metal about GNR was the Welcome to the Jungle video. Unless I'm mistaken, there wasn't anything "hair" about Black Sabbath. Spinal Tap was pretty funny, but not a top 25 hair metal group. Many of the other bands were just okay. I think Poison and Skid Row are a couple glaring omissions.

Yeah, that is an interesting list. I'd strike Black Sabbath and Spinal Tap also. As from Poison and SKid Row, they also left out Warrent. I mean, who could forget "Cherry Pie"?

I know a secret down at Uncle Tom's cabin oooooh yeeeahhhhh!!!!

Huh?

Here you go HM. Might be my favorite Warrant song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te1iSbyaR9I

C-Dawg wrote:

ConchRepublican wrote:OK, here's the hair list from an '80's metal head. (from hair to thrash, to hard rock and all in between, I listened to it all!)

25 - Slaughter
24 - Black n Blue
23 - Skid Row
22 - Autograph
21 - Winger
20 - Quiet Riot
19 - Guns n Roses - they really weren't "hair", but make it for Sweet Child and Axl's hair from the Welcome to the Jungle video, a nod to glam
18 - David Lee Roth solo
17 - Tesla - another band not really "hair" but there's a glam/hard rock crossover which really makes "hair" and they are a good hard rock band
16 - Loverboy
15 - Night Ranger - were big right before hair really broke through
14 - Damn Yankees
13 - Twisted Sister
12 - KISS - For about 4 - 5 albums there they were VERY hair. Way too much neon and ribbons!!!!!
11 - Warrant
10 - Cinderella
9 - Def Leppard - Another band with a broader category than "hair"
8 - Whitesnake
7 - White Lion
6 - Poison
5 - Dokken
4 - Bon Jovi - added a little Springsteen (wannabe at least) to the writing
3 - RATT
2 - Motley Crue
1 - Van Halen - they created the template almost every hair band followed. Blistering guitar solos, great melodies, sing a long choruses, pretty lead singer.

Honorable mention - Hanoi Rocks, Nelson, Extreme, Europe, Vixen, Firehouse, Britney Fox, Frehley's Comet, Bullet Boys, Lita Ford, Trixter & Mr. Big

If you move White Lion to the honorable mention list and replace it with the Scorpions, then switch the positions of Ratt and Def Leppard you've got my vote

Scorps aren't a hair metal band! They didn't even have any hair!!!!!! LOL

I usually put them in the Priest category, Metal, although a little more radio friendly at times. But their stuff fit in well with Living After Midnight and You've Got Another Thing Comin' I always thought.

RATT just doesn't get enough love . . . . RATT N ROLL!!!!!!!

As for White Lion, their two big albums, Pride and Big Game I always thought had great stuff for the time. Vito Bratta could flat out wail, and Wait may be one of the best songs of the genre, IMHO.

FunkHouse9 wrote:

Hockey Mon wrote:

FunkHouse9 wrote:

Hockey Mon wrote:

FunkHouse9 wrote:That's a pretty lousy list. The only thing hair metal about GNR was the Welcome to the Jungle video. Unless I'm mistaken, there wasn't anything "hair" about Black Sabbath. Spinal Tap was pretty funny, but not a top 25 hair metal group. Many of the other bands were just okay. I think Poison and Skid Row are a couple glaring omissions.

Yeah, that is an interesting list. I'd strike Black Sabbath and Spinal Tap also. As from Poison and SKid Row, they also left out Warrent. I mean, who could forget "Cherry Pie"?

I know a secret down at Uncle Tom's cabin oooooh yeeeahhhhh!!!!

Huh?

Here you go HM. Might be my favorite Warrant song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te1iSbyaR9I

I do not remember that song at all, which is suprising. I guess I wasn't kidding when I said I purged that from my brain.

ConchRepublican wrote:Scorps aren't a hair metal band! They didn't even have any hair!!!!!! LOL

I usually put them in the Priest category, Metal, although a little more radio friendly at times. But their stuff fit in well with Living After Midnight and You've Got Another Thing Comin' I always thought.

Interesting placement of the Scorps; I could see that placement.

So, if we had to rank 80's metal bands, who would you guys have? I would include: Priest, Iron Maiden, Accept, Anthrax, Metallica, Scorpions, Queensryche, The Cult (where they 80s?), AC/DC, Shabbath and Dio. I'm probably forgetting a bunch. I have no idea how'd I rank them.

In trying to classify a band as a rock band or a metal band, I use to see how many guitarists they had. One guitar, maybe metal; two guitarists, definitely metal.

Hockey Mon wrote:

ConchRepublican wrote:Scorps aren't a hair metal band! They didn't even have any hair!!!!!! LOL

I usually put them in the Priest category, Metal, although a little more radio friendly at times. But their stuff fit in well with Living After Midnight and You've Got Another Thing Comin' I always thought.

Interesting placement of the Scorps; I could see that placement.

So, if we had to rank 80's metal bands, who would you guys have? I would include: Priest, Iron Maiden, Accept, Anthrax, Metallica, Scorpions, Queensryche, The Cult (where they 80s?), AC/DC, Shabbath and Dio. I'm probably forgetting a bunch. I have no idea how'd I rank them.

In trying to classify a band as a rock band or a metal band, I use to see how many guitarists they had. One guitar, maybe metal; two guitarists, definitely metal.

You have to start with the Heavy Trinity:

Ozzy/Sabbath
Maiden
Priest

The next batch probably looks like:

AC/DC
Metallica
Slayer - I was never a big fan, but the influence is huge
Motorhead
KISS
Megadeth
Dio

After that, it's a free for all (pun intended for the Nugent fans) of these guys:

Anthrax
Scorpions
Manowar
W.A.S.P.
Queensryche
Overkill
Suicidal Tendencies
Savatage
Accept
Helloween
UFO
Whitesnake

Plus a WHOLE lot more!

BTW - I think by this time Aerosmith is a rock band, maybe hard rock, but not like their 70's days.


As for guitars . . . what does that make Skynyrd???? Also, Pantera has/had only one guitarist . . .

ConchRepublican wrote:

C-Dawg wrote:

ConchRepublican wrote:OK, here's the hair list from an '80's metal head. (from hair to thrash, to hard rock and all in between, I listened to it all!)

25 - Slaughter
24 - Black n Blue
23 - Skid Row
22 - Autograph
21 - Winger
20 - Quiet Riot
19 - Guns n Roses - they really weren't "hair", but make it for Sweet Child and Axl's hair from the Welcome to the Jungle video, a nod to glam
18 - David Lee Roth solo
17 - Tesla - another band not really "hair" but there's a glam/hard rock crossover which really makes "hair" and they are a good hard rock band
16 - Loverboy
15 - Night Ranger - were big right before hair really broke through
14 - Damn Yankees
13 - Twisted Sister
12 - KISS - For about 4 - 5 albums there they were VERY hair. Way too much neon and ribbons!!!!!
11 - Warrant
10 - Cinderella
9 - Def Leppard - Another band with a broader category than "hair"
8 - Whitesnake
7 - White Lion
6 - Poison
5 - Dokken
4 - Bon Jovi - added a little Springsteen (wannabe at least) to the writing
3 - RATT
2 - Motley Crue
1 - Van Halen - they created the template almost every hair band followed. Blistering guitar solos, great melodies, sing a long choruses, pretty lead singer.

Honorable mention - Hanoi Rocks, Nelson, Extreme, Europe, Vixen, Firehouse, Britney Fox, Frehley's Comet, Bullet Boys, Lita Ford, Trixter & Mr. Big

If you move White Lion to the honorable mention list and replace it with the Scorpions, then switch the positions of Ratt and Def Leppard you've got my vote

Scorps aren't a hair metal band! They didn't even have any hair!!!!!! LOL

I usually put them in the Priest category, Metal, although a little more radio friendly at times. But their stuff fit in well with Living After Midnight and You've Got Another Thing Comin' I always thought.

RATT just doesn't get enough love . . . . RATT N ROLL!!!!!!!

As for White Lion, their two big albums, Pride and Big Game I always thought had great stuff for the time. Vito Bratta could flat out wail, and Wait may be one of the best songs of the genre, IMHO.

I love Ratt.....but just think Dokken is a little better.
As for White Lion.....I grew up in Europe in the 70's, and Mike Tramp, lead singer of WL was the lead singer of a disco/Pop band called Mabel that my girlfriend used to listen to. So, when he came out with WL, it was hard for me to take them seriously, and I've always considered them wannabe's, kinda like Europe ( don't get me started on them... )
As for the Scorpions....I guess I can see them being metal rather than a hair band....I met the band at 2am in Memphis, back in '85 or '86....right outside Graceland.
I was stationed in Norfolk, Va and my buddy had to go home to Memphis for the weekend so we took off Friday evening and drove to Tenn. By the time we had stopped for dinner, pee breaks, beer breaks etc, we got into Memphis after midnight. We cruised around, him showing me the sights til he took me to Graceland. While we were sitting on the hood of his '68 Mercury Cougar convertible a tour bus pulled up. A bunch of guys got off the bus and stood at the gate talking. Then they started reading the graffiti on the walls and started getting closer to us. A guy comes over to bum a cigarette and I offer him a beer. Soon his buddies have joined him, and I notice I recognize one of them, Rudoph Schenker, and say to them "You're the Scorpions". They laugh and say yeah, that they had just done a show in Memphis. We were blown away. They had their beers, we made small talk and then they got on the bus and headed out. I kept the beer bottles that Schenker and Klaus Meine drank from for awhile, but lost them moving around. Ah the memories

C-Dawg wrote:

ConchRepublican wrote:

C-Dawg wrote:

ConchRepublican wrote:OK, here's the hair list from an '80's metal head. (from hair to thrash, to hard rock and all in between, I listened to it all!)

25 - Slaughter
24 - Black n Blue
23 - Skid Row
22 - Autograph
21 - Winger
20 - Quiet Riot
19 - Guns n Roses - they really weren't "hair", but make it for Sweet Child and Axl's hair from the Welcome to the Jungle video, a nod to glam
18 - David Lee Roth solo
17 - Tesla - another band not really "hair" but there's a glam/hard rock crossover which really makes "hair" and they are a good hard rock band
16 - Loverboy
15 - Night Ranger - were big right before hair really broke through
14 - Damn Yankees
13 - Twisted Sister
12 - KISS - For about 4 - 5 albums there they were VERY hair. Way too much neon and ribbons!!!!!
11 - Warrant
10 - Cinderella
9 - Def Leppard - Another band with a broader category than "hair"
8 - Whitesnake
7 - White Lion
6 - Poison
5 - Dokken
4 - Bon Jovi - added a little Springsteen (wannabe at least) to the writing
3 - RATT
2 - Motley Crue
1 - Van Halen - they created the template almost every hair band followed. Blistering guitar solos, great melodies, sing a long choruses, pretty lead singer.

Honorable mention - Hanoi Rocks, Nelson, Extreme, Europe, Vixen, Firehouse, Britney Fox, Frehley's Comet, Bullet Boys, Lita Ford, Trixter & Mr. Big

If you move White Lion to the honorable mention list and replace it with the Scorpions, then switch the positions of Ratt and Def Leppard you've got my vote

Scorps aren't a hair metal band! They didn't even have any hair!!!!!! LOL

I usually put them in the Priest category, Metal, although a little more radio friendly at times. But their stuff fit in well with Living After Midnight and You've Got Another Thing Comin' I always thought.

RATT just doesn't get enough love . . . . RATT N ROLL!!!!!!!

As for White Lion, their two big albums, Pride and Big Game I always thought had great stuff for the time. Vito Bratta could flat out wail, and Wait may be one of the best songs of the genre, IMHO.

I love Ratt.....but just think Dokken is a little better.
As for White Lion.....I grew up in Europe in the 70's, and Mike Tramp, lead singer of WL was the lead singer of a disco/Pop band called Mabel that my girlfriend used to listen to. So, when he came out with WL, it was hard for me to take them seriously, and I've always considered them wannabe's, kinda like Europe ( don't get me started on them... )
As for the Scorpions....I guess I can see them being metal rather than a hair band....I met the band at 2am in Memphis, back in '85 or '86....right outside Graceland.
I was stationed in Norfolk, Va and my buddy had to go home to Memphis for the weekend so we took off Friday evening and drove to Tenn. By the time we had stopped for dinner, pee breaks, beer breaks etc, we got into Memphis after midnight. We cruised around, him showing me the sights til he took me to Graceland. While we were sitting on the hood of his '68 Mercury Cougar convertible a tour bus pulled up. A bunch of guys got off the bus and stood at the gate talking. Then they started reading the graffiti on the walls and started getting closer to us. A guy comes over to bum a cigarette and I offer him a beer. Soon his buddies have joined him, and I notice I recognize one of them, Rudoph Schenker, and say to them "You're the Scorpions". They laugh and say yeah, that they had just done a show in Memphis. We were blown away. They had their beers, we made small talk and then they got on the bus and headed out. I kept the beer bottles that Schenker and Klaus Meine drank from for awhile, but lost them moving around. Ah the memories

Ahhh . . . . now I understand. Love at First Sting!!!

Great story.

I can see White Lion being viewed as wannabes, but aren't most Hair Bands called posers anyway????????

ConchRepublican wrote:After that, it's a free for all (pun intended for the Nugent fans) of these guys

I get that. Ah, the Motor City Madman...

ConchRepublican wrote:As for guitars . . . what does that make Skynyrd???? Also, Pantera has/had only one guitarist . . .

It was a rough guideline used to delineate one group from another. I don't think anyone would be trying to figure out if Skynyrd was hair band/heavy metal/rock. That answer is pretty obvious. As for Pantera, I didn't know that. I never listened to them.

Does anyone remember a tour that happened in the late 80's (maybe 89, or even 1990) and I think it had Alice Cooper, Motorhead, Childs Play and Priest. That was an interesting show.

Ahhh, Pantera...


There will be a special tribute to Dime at Ozzfest this year, which has only one date...August 9 in Frisco!!!WOOOHOO!!

Let's not forget the lower "class":

Cold Sweat, Jetboy, and Hurricaine...
Stryper?

MSG? (at the time McCauley Schenker Group)

STEALHEART!!!!! THEY ROCKED!!!

MDown wrote:Let's not forget the lower "class":

Cold Sweat, Jetboy, and Hurricaine...
Stryper?

MSG? (at the time McCauley Schenker Group)

STEALHEART!!!!! THEY ROCKED!!!

Not to mention Kix, Bang Tango and Y&T!

ConchRepublican wrote:Honorable mention... Bullet Boys

Good to see these guys mentioned. I really dug them back in the day, and dont think they ever got the attention they deserved.

Saw a triple bill of Cinderella, Bullet Boys and Winger at Red Rocks in summer of 1989... or 1990.

Bon Jovi have gone far beyond hair metal and have stood the test of time so as a Bon Jovi fanatic I am ok with them being lower down this list. I like to think of Bon Jovi as a rock and roll band who happened to come along during the hair metal time so they got caught up in that but that is not really who they are. They put on one of the best rock and roll shows out there still after all these years bar none.

Val

ConchRepublican wrote:OK, here's the hair list from an '80's metal head. (from hair to thrash, to hard rock and all in between, I listened to it all!)

25 - Slaughter
24 - Black n Blue
23 - Skid Row
22 - Autograph
21 - Winger
20 - Quiet Riot
19 - Guns n Roses - they really weren't "hair", but make it for Sweet Child and Axl's hair from the Welcome to the Jungle video, a nod to glam
18 - David Lee Roth solo
17 - Tesla - another band not really "hair" but there's a glam/hard rock crossover which really makes "hair" and they are a good hard rock band
16 - Loverboy
15 - Night Ranger - were big right before hair really broke through
14 - Damn Yankees
13 - Twisted Sister
12 - KISS - For about 4 - 5 albums there they were VERY hair. Way too much neon and ribbons!!!!!
11 - Warrant
10 - Cinderella
9 - Def Leppard - Another band with a broader category than "hair"
8 - Whitesnake
7 - White Lion
6 - Poison
5 - Dokken
4 - Bon Jovi - added a little Springsteen (wannabe at least) to the writing
3 - RATT
2 - Motley Crue
1 - Van Halen - they created the template almost every hair band followed. Blistering guitar solos, great melodies, sing a long choruses, pretty lead singer.

Honorable mention - Hanoi Rocks, Nelson, Extreme, Europe, Vixen, Firehouse, Britney Fox, Frehley's Comet, Bullet Boys, Lita Ford, Trixter & Mr. Big

Winger?

I don't judge people for the music they listen to . . . but that is some funny sh*t right there . . .