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Posted: May 4, 2008 12:31 am
by ph4ever
ragtopW wrote:ph4ever wrote:
hmmmmmmmmm I know a good bonding company.............
however it's in Dallas county. I think y'all were maybe in Colin county......
Posted: May 4, 2008 12:33 am
by ragtopW
ph4ever wrote:ragtopW wrote:ph4ever wrote:
hmmmmmmmmm I know a good bonding company.............
however it's in Dallas county. I think y'all were maybe in Colin county......
I thought that we were in Denton county...
Posted: May 4, 2008 12:34 am
by ph4ever
ragtopW wrote:ph4ever wrote:ragtopW wrote:ph4ever wrote:
hmmmmmmmmm I know a good bonding company.............
however it's in Dallas county. I think y'all were maybe in Colin county......
I thought that we were in Denton county...
Could have been. Up in that area you've got Denton, Dallas and Colin. Sometimes it just depends on what side of the road you're on
Posted: May 4, 2008 1:09 am
by Dally
Why yes, yes I do!!!!!!!!!
But.....
Like others I believe in Karma.....so I normally just think and not act on my thoughts of revenge.
Posted: May 4, 2008 2:02 am
by parrothead216
Posted: May 4, 2008 2:26 am
by Dezdmona
ph4ever wrote:Up in that area you've got Denton, Dallas and Colin. Sometimes it just depends on what side of the road you're on
Just FYI, you were in Collin County. Not to be messed with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-GFqhCq2HA
Posted: May 4, 2008 2:59 am
by Salukulady
No, never hold a grudge.....let it go and move on......not worth wasting my energy on.
Posted: May 4, 2008 4:19 am
by Wino you know
Healthy or not, if a person wrongs me INTENTIONALLY, yes, I most definately DO hold a grudge, and will wait an eternity if necessary to avenge them.
However, if I'm wronged UN-intentionally, I can usually forget about it and move on.
Posted: May 4, 2008 6:00 am
by RinglingRingling
depends on the situation.
A sincere, remorseful apology and an offer to try to make things right mitigates a lot. Doesn't mean the same level of trust is there, but it does mitigate the situation.
on the other hand, damage and then persistent attempts to avoid responsibility and/or lying about actions.. Doesn't matter if it was intentional in the first place or not, doesn't matter if they were stupid enough to do it and think theycould get away without being caught. That is an honour debt.
At the moment, I have a couple of those. One goes back to my time at Montana State back in the 80s and a psychotic little whackjob; another is the Tumour. In the former case, I think about it about once a year, and hope that somewhere out there he ran into something that brought the karma full circle and took him out from the blind side. In the latter, I have every intention of living long enough to dance on the gravesite, even if I have to clump around in my walker to do it.
Posted: May 4, 2008 7:22 am
by creeky
Wino you know wrote:Healthy or not, if a person wrongs me INTENTIONALLY, yes, I most definately DO hold a grudge, and will wait an eternity if necessary to avenge them.
However, if I'm wronged UN-intentionally, I can usually forget about it and move on.
We think very alike!!! Though - Garry - dont know I want to ever get on the wrong side of you
I dont like conflict - I have very little of it in my life - as I just walk away from it - so I dont allow for too many grudges to come in - and the people that are in my life - are people who take me for what I am, and me for what they are and they are not the sort of people that would cause me to have a grudge - most of my friends here (non BN life) I have had for 10, 20 and 30+ years ...... not a grudge ever to resolve! I am lucky that way!
As I dont like conflict - I keep myself out of any situations - however there is one person - that should i ever see them - I would have trouble keeping my tongue in my mouth and my hand away from their face - they totally were mean, manipulative and had severe bad intent and destroyed some good friendships that I had.
So needless to say - there is one state in the USA I will never visit
(for fear of being arrested and never being allowed in again!)
(not a Bner at all .. dont think they ever come here)
Posted: May 4, 2008 9:39 am
by nutmeg
I like to think of myself as loving and forgiving.....however I do have a hard time getting over being wronged sometimes.
I haven't walked into a Michaels store since before Christmas after a stupid incident in their store. (I used to be a weekly visitor) I'm sure I should let it go....However I was promised a call from the local and district managers....and never heard from either one....And I'm being silly enough to stay away until I do
I had one boss at work that treated me vilely. She was just plain mean. Usually being someone's admin assistant means that you run all kind of interference behind the scenes to make sure your boss never looks stupid. With her I never did. If she was doing something that would make her look like an idiot...I never stood in the way
So I guess you could say I was holding a grudge....
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:29 am
by pbans
Brown Eyed Girl wrote:pbans wrote:ParrotheadKalee wrote:pbans wrote:yes, I carry a grudge.....but I also believe in karma....so I don't really act on them....time will take care of things.
Agree 100%! Karma will get those people every time
I had some incredible proof of Karma today.....a former co-worker of mine who is/was the biggest back stabbing, lying, cheating SOB I've ever known in my LIFE was teaching a gun safety class today and shot himself......
and yes, he's hurt, but I guess he's going to be okay....Karma is a b*tch
Now THAT'S comedy!
But true karma would have been him shooting his weiner off...
I don't think he has one......BTW.....it made the front page of the local paper.....karma revisits!
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:33 am
by aeroparrot
creeky wrote:popcornjack wrote:creeky wrote:I should date Wayne and Ravi ...
oh wait .. already had the date with Wayne
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ALL the men i have ever dated have been Scorpio - go figure
I guess that puts me next in line.
I don't know if it's holding a grudge or not, but when someone does me wrong, I don't go out my way to make up for it, but I am d*** well sure they know about it if I end up getting the better of them.
ok get in line then
Wondering when my date with Ravi will be? Maybe we can go to Jamaica and watch cricket
Or we could meet in the UK to watch cricket at Lords.
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:35 am
by aeroparrot
RinglingRingling wrote:depends on the situation.
A sincere, remorseful apology and an offer to try to make things right mitigates a lot. Doesn't mean the same level of trust is there, but it does mitigate the situation.
on the other hand, damage and then persistent attempts to avoid responsibility and/or lying about actions.. Doesn't matter if it was intentional in the first place or not, doesn't matter if they were stupid enough to do it and think theycould get away without being caught. That is an honour debt.
At the moment, I have a couple of those. One goes back to my time at Montana State back in the 80s and a psychotic little whackjob; another is the Tumour. In the former case, I think about it about once a year, and hope that somewhere out there he ran into something that brought the karma full circle and took him out from the blind side. In the latter, I have every intention of living long enough to dance on the gravesite, even if I have to clump around in my walker to do it.
Well, what I put in bold will also go a long way with me. If the person tries to make it right, then I agree with you, give the person another chance. If not, then to hell with them.
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:37 am
by aeroparrot
creeky wrote:aeroparrot wrote:ragtopW wrote:ph4ever wrote:creeky wrote:ph4ever wrote:It depends on the "incident".
It also depends on if I receive a genuine apology. By genuine I'm not talking about apologizing for something and then turning around and doing exactly what you just apologized for either. It's sad that some people just aren't decent enough to offer a sincere apology.
That being said I've also found that the majority of the BN'ers are forgiving if you do offer a genuine apology. Well unless they've been screwed over bad........
And that being said there are simply some things I will not apologize for. About 2 months ago I went off on someone in a big way - I will NEVER apologize for that- nope not one iota. The persons involved deserved it and much more...
I tend to guage on intention rather than the severity of the issue - sometimes an innocent error can result in the ugliest of issues - but if there was no bad intent - I will forgive.
If there is intent - well - GONE!!!!
Intent plays a big part for me too. So does remorse.
Yeah.. I suspect that I anger more people by not meaning what
they heard, than I do by doing/saying something wrong..
Um... if everyone were to have a grudge against me for the stupid things I have said, unintentionally done or said, then everyone would loathe me.
I have seen you hold a grudge ...it was a very drunken grudge in FL .. but it was a well deserved grudge ... but you were wanting to do something bad with that grudge
ONLY because the person wouldn't fess up to it. If they did and apologized for it and tried to make it right, then I would have been angry but would have forgiven them.
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:38 am
by pbans
nutmeg wrote:
I haven't walked into a Michaels store since before Christmas after a stupid incident in their store. (I used to be a weekly visitor) I'm sure I should let it go....However I was promised a call from the local and district managers....and never heard from either one....And I'm being silly enough to stay away until I do
That's not a grudge....that's called making a statement with your hard earned money! I have a list of places I've crossed off because of poor customer service......
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:39 am
by VanillaGrl
No, not really. If I can't take care of the matter immediately (i.e. beating the holy crap out of the person who has wronged me) then why carry it...just let it go.
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:44 am
by karat
It depends on what the incident is/was.... Sometimes my grudge is only for that day and I forget about it
Sometimes it is stored for later use...typically forgotten or the person gets it from somewhere else and I can release it
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:49 am
by SchoolGirlHeart
It depends.... Sometimes, yes..... But I'm a big believer in "What goes around, comes around."
There are few people I literally hate, but if I were face to face with Usama bin Ladin I would kill him with my bare hands without a moment's thought or a moment's remorse.
Posted: May 4, 2008 10:53 am
by karat
pbans wrote:nutmeg wrote:
I haven't walked into a Michaels store since before Christmas after a stupid incident in their store. (I used to be a weekly visitor) I'm sure I should let it go....However I was promised a call from the local and district managers....and never heard from either one....And I'm being silly enough to stay away until I do
That's not a grudge....that's called making a statement with your hard earned money! I have a list of places I've crossed off because of poor customer service......
PB and Nutmeg - I agree 100%. I swore off Linens n' Things due to that and do not care that they are in the $hitter! A woman embrassed the hell out of me to the point I had tears! I was already feeling bad for every thing that happened to me last summer and my hip was killing me. She was a manager. I went to the very top of the company and worked my way down and crushed everyone in my path. I have no idea what happened to her, I did look in the store as I passed one day.
therefore I do not shop there
