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Well, this partially makes up for their asinine ruling the other day which disallowed the death penalty for child rapists.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/26/scotus.guns/index.html

rednekkPH wrote:Well, this partially makes up for their asinine ruling the other day which disallowed the death penalty for child rapists.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/26/scotus.guns/index.html

Here's a weird spin for you. I agree that the ruling on the death penalty was bad and I am opposed to the death penalty. I see that ruling as one of those legislating from the bench things. It is a state's right to determine punishment for a state crime. The court has determined that the death penalty is not cruel and inhumane for murder so the cruel and inhumane argument doesn't hold water for me.

I do look forward to the day that there is no death penalty through legislation, but the courts nipping away at it isn't the way to stop it.

Skibo wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:Well, this partially makes up for their asinine ruling the other day which disallowed the death penalty for child rapists.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/26/scotus.guns/index.html

Here's a weird spin for you. I agree that the ruling on the death penalty was bad and I am opposed to the death penalty. I see that ruling as one of those legislating from the bench things. It is a state's right to determine punishment for a state crime. The court has determined that the death penalty is not cruel and inhumane for murder so the cruel and inhumane argument doesn't hold water for me.

I do look forward to the day that there is no death penalty through legislation, but the courts nipping away at it isn't the way to stop it.

I look forward to the day when there's no NEED for a death penalty. But I am, admittedly, a dreamer.

phjrsaunt wrote:

Skibo wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:Well, this partially makes up for their asinine ruling the other day which disallowed the death penalty for child rapists.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/26/scotus.guns/index.html

Here's a weird spin for you. I agree that the ruling on the death penalty was bad and I am opposed to the death penalty. I see that ruling as one of those legislating from the bench things. It is a state's right to determine punishment for a state crime. The court has determined that the death penalty is not cruel and inhumane for murder so the cruel and inhumane argument doesn't hold water for me.

I do look forward to the day that there is no death penalty through legislation, but the courts nipping away at it isn't the way to stop it.

I look forward to the day when there's no NEED for a death penalty. But I am, admittedly, a dreamer.

There's no NEED for a death penalty now because there is no way to guarantee that every person who is put to death for *crimes deemed punishable by death* is in fact, guilty of that crime.

Aren't Christians supposed to leave that decision up to God?


Oh dear. I should stop.

Skibo wrote:I do look forward to the day that there is no death penalty . . .

I agree with this. And as BB said, there are too many people sitting on death row who didn't commit the crime. Life in prison without parole is fine with me.

But how many have died??? Sitting on death row is still breathing. It takes 20 years to kill someone. The amount of people who are finally found innocent and released is proof that the system may not be as screwed up as people think.

And yes, Christians are supposed to leave judgement up to God.

Flip answer: we're just hastening that judgement

Serious answer: the death penalty has historically been accepted by the church in cases where the continued existence of a person committing heinous crimes poses a continued serious threat to the community. The debate as to life without parole removing said threat remains, and I ain't going there.

However........Kennedy needed killing. (the LA guy, not hizzoner)

See my post in the 2nd amendment poll question.
But yes, the Supreme Court FINALLY got one right, Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg be damned.

Staredge wrote:Serious answer: the death penalty has historically been accepted by the church in cases where the continued existence of a person committing heinous crimes poses a continued serious threat to the community.

Perhaps, but I know that the faith I follow has said consistently that the death penalty is not the answer. I have not always agreed with that stance, and I am still struggling with it. But I am moving away from my belief in capital punishment.