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Re: Newport Not What Was Promised
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:09 pm
by Tiki Bar
Even with the last statement, I think the key phrase was "Buffett is considering..."
phjim wrote:The Boston Globe reports that Jimmy Buffett will be performing at this year's
Newport Folk Festival at Fort Adams State Park on Sunday August 3rd: "
New folks at Newport rock festival's traditions"
Gillian Welch says: "Performers are very aware of the legacy, and I can envision the legacy at Newport having the same effect. I know that Jimmy Buffett will have at least one folk song in his set because he just cut one of mine on his last album."
Indeed, Buffett - whose "Margaritaville" is a staple at arenas and tailgate parties - is considering playing a stripped-down set with just two acoustic guitars at his Newport debut. "I threatened to do Newport before I was gone, and I seriously want to honor the heritage of the festival," Buffett says. "I came up as a folk singer. I've always loved the idea of being a balladeer. You know, I might do Gordon Lightfoot's 'Canadian Railroad Trilogy.' I am not going to do a Parrothead show."
Single day tickets for the Sunday August 3rd show go on sale on Wednesday, April 23rd at 9:00 AM. To purchase tickets on April 23rd, visit
Festival Network
(thanks to The Five O'clock Parrott and Caribbean Soul for passing that along to us)
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:10 pm
by RAGTOP
It's all about how much Margaritaville Bean Dip he can sell these days

Posted: August 5, 2008 2:10 pm
by RinglingRingling
so he offends the folks who travel to two-three shows a year and help support his band members...
He made the bucketlist, and the fallingdownpukingsickdrunkfratratscum happy by playing enough songs they didn't run down their cellphone batteries yakking about yakking during songs they didn't know...
It's about the chance to see friends and family anymore.
Re: Newport Not What Was Promised
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:16 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
Tiki Bar wrote:Even with the last statement, I think the key phrase was "Buffett is considering..."
It's always interesting to me how people see things different ways. I honestly felt the key phrase was the last sentence, "I am not going to do a Parrothead show."
I think if he hadn't given that interview, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because he did put on a DAMN good show in Newport! (just not the show a lot of folks expected...

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Re: Disagree
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:17 pm
by LIPH
ChumWithA BottleOfRum wrote: ... And if anybody thinks its "just to collect a paycheck", get your head out of your a**, the man is worth 400million dollars!
From what I saw, Buffett was the only artist who had his own merchandise tent Sunday and it was full of The Year Of Still Here tour shirts. The other artists who were selling CDs and t-shirts had their stuff at the Festival merchandise tent. The beer tent sold only Bud Light and
Landshark. At the "regular" shows there are 4 fewer people in the band then there were 3 years ago and ticket prices are higher than they've ever been. If anybody has their head up their ass it's people who think it isn't all about cashing the checks. I'm beginning to think he'd be retired by now if he didn't have bad tequila, bad beer, overpriced blenders, hotels, casinos and restaurants to plug.
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:18 pm
by BigR-KyParrothead
here is my take.....
i really wanted to go to newport to get the non-parrothead set. i am glad i didnt spend that kind of cash now.
do i wish jb mixed up the setlist nightly and got rid of most of the sykbh songs....yes. will i continue to go see him...yes
when jb does throw in the rare gem, it just makes it more special.
i love seeing jb perform, love the music but alot of the "fun" is also the tailgate...probably a 50/50 mix for me.
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:19 pm
by ph4ever
Haven't we learned by now that we can't guarantee that what the man says is going to be what he does?? If we could count on his word he'd already have been to several different venues by now.
Re: Newport Not What Was Promised
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:22 pm
by catsway
Catch&Release wrote:Also, Jimmy speaks quite fondly of Jerry Garcia. The Dead were known for wildly varying their shows from night to night with huge improv jams. Of course, a Dead show might consist of only 12 to 15 songs over 2 hours.
I wish I could remember some of the Grateful Dead shows, but the Kool-Aide Acid Test warped the whole evening.
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:22 pm
by moog
Well, at least the festival had artists that still play from the heart.
Re: Newport Not What Was Promised
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:23 pm
by A1A-BJB
I love JB, but I won't be a JB apologist. He went back on his word.
I'm a girl who grew up believing someone's word is more important than anything.
He's a Southern Boy, and was brought up the same way, which is why I believed him.
Well, you and me both.
Then again, I didn't go to Newport just for JB - I was there both Saturday and Sunday because I wanted to see other artists like Steve Earle, Red Rooster, Brandi Carlile, Steve and Damian Marley, Black Crowes, Levon Helm, Jake Shimabukuro, etc. So, all in all, I had a great time. And AFAIC, Jake
stole the whole thing with his solo performance at the Waterside stage.
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:28 pm
by Dezdmona
Even if he didn't commit to an acoustic show, he did say it wouldn't be a Parrothead show...
Can anyone honestly say that wasn't a Parrothead show setlist?
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:28 pm
by weirdo0521
RinglingRingling wrote:so he offends the folks who travel to two-three shows a year and help support his band members...
He made the bucketlist, and the fallingdownpukingsickdrunkfratratscum happy by playing enough songs they didn't run down their cellphone batteries yakking about yakking during songs they didn't know...
It's about the chance to see friends and family anymore.
The fallingdownpukingsickdrunkfratratscum crowd has been there as long as I have been going (1986). They just didn't have cell phones in those days.
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:33 pm
by RAGTOP
next years tour will consist of a JB cardboard cut out and a sound machine on stage and some how ticket prices will continue to rise

Posted: August 5, 2008 2:35 pm
by Tiki Bar
Dezdmona wrote:Even if he didn't commit to an acoustic show, he did say it wouldn't be a Parrothead show...
Can anyone honestly say that wasn't a Parrothead show setlist?
Definitely not!
I'm just saying Jimmy didn't actually 'promise', based on that interview. But parrotheads everywhere read it and ran with it! It sounded like it would be GREAT, and probably helped sell some tickets!!
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:38 pm
by Randy1278
I was really looking forward to the show because I thought it was going to be on RM. I was not planning to go, but I wanted to hear the unplugged, non PH show.
I agree with what everyone is saying. He does go through the mostions here and there (I don't think he did both nights in Chicago when we were there), and the man loves to cash a pay check. I wrote before about him slapping us in the face by having Nadira sing Music for Money during the tour. I also think it sucks that he uses a telepromter to get through some of the songs.
As far as the majority of the people getting upset if he doesn't play the big 8, to hell with 'em. I don't care if people start going to his shows now or just becoming fans in what is the twilight of his career. Play the old stuff for the long time fans, and let us enjoy the show with out Frat Boy Joe p*** us all off. Let real fans have a chance to sit close without going broke and supporting the brokers. Strip down the band, (but bring Fingers back!) and lower the ticket prices.
He loves to tell us how he is still follishly spending our money, and even though I love the music and most of the show, the more I think about it, I think that we are still foolishly spending our money.
Just my two cents......(and there could be more)
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:40 pm
by LIPH
By saying he didn't really promise anything, we're just playing semantics. He said I am not going to do a Parrothead show and sometime between that interview and the day of the show he did a 180 degree turn.
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:42 pm
by changingchannels
i think jimmy is just going through the motions especially this tour. in fact i would say that for the most part he hasnt challenged himself with a setlist since the 2003 Tiki Time Tour.
i completely disagree with those of you that think he cant play other obscure songs of his. even if he played every song on the album songs you know by heart plus the other songs like one particular harbor,fruitcakes, last mango,jolly mon,jamaica mistaka,license to chill,bama breeze theres still room for other jimmy buffett songs.
cover songs - the way i see it he just wants to please the general population by simply playing songs they know,and nowadays its more and more covers than his own material.its like he goes to a sporting game and sees how people reaact and then calls mike utley and tells the band to learn it.it begs the question does jimmy actually like his own work? covers are killing the shows. its time for jimmy buffett to go back and listen to his material, all of it to create a more inspired setlist.
as far the anguilla show, that was very promising and the best all around setlist he has done probably ever. why he didnt continue doing more of that on the 2007 tour is beyond me. but if we remember jimmy did say he was going to do more songs that tour taken from the anguilla show.
special guests - to me its killing the show. for example when sonny landreth is part of the band. although he is extremely talented what he brings to a jimmy bufett show is more cover songs or yet another rendtion of i will play for gumbo or uss zydecoldsmobile which are two more songs he has beaten to the ground. and does he really need a 4th guitar player?
the jimmy buffett product is dwindling while the prices are increasing- that for the most part is true in my opinion. what have we gotten? in four years we got license to chill and take the weather with you which are 70 percent cover songs. license to chill was a deliberate market ploy to cash in on the success of jimmys 15 seconds of re-found country fame on a song recorded by alan jackson by calling in the hottest country artists of the month to do a sing-along of covers. although there is some good quality songs on each release, its not a good sign when its obvious that jimmy is just finding the easy way to make albums.think about all the live albums/dvds that have been released in the last 5 years alone. its just all about cash and not substance like it used to be.
ticket prices - theres nothing more to say that hasnt already been said a million times over.he's lost touch. its not the jimmy buffett that wrote on the inside of you had to be there "this if for all the fans that paid there hard earned money seeing these shows.." jimmy buffett is a business.
as for the newport show - i wouldve been annoyed if i went thinking i was going to see a different jimmy buffett show but then see it turn into the same old songs you know by heart. especially with travel,gas,hotels,food,beer,ticket prices,etc. i for one was hoping for another fall harvest type of show like he did 8-9 years ago in south hampton.
Re: Newport Not What Was Promised
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:43 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
A1A-BJB wrote:Then again, I didn't go to Newport just for JB - I was there both Saturday and Sunday because I wanted to see other artists like Steve Earle, Red Rooster, Brandi Carlile, Steve and Damian Marley, Black Crowes, Levon Helm, Jake Shimabukuro, etc. So, all in all, I had a great time. And AFAIC, Jake stole the whole thing with his solo performance at the Waterside stage.
Precisely!! For me the weekend wasn't all about Buffett. There was GREAT music both days, even in the pouring rain!
I'd never seen Steve Earle, so that was a treat. The Marleys made me smile; some good solid island-feel reggae. I'd never heard of Brandi Carlisle; she was AWESOME!!! I sure wish I hadn't had to pick between Gillian Welch and Jake.....

Gillian was *incredible* when she sang with JB!!
Jake brought the house down!!!
Footnote: while waiting for the gates to open, one group was sure that JB was playing first, since his name was at the top of the lineup.

They wanted to hear JB right at 11:30 so they could leave fast and not have to listen to anyone else. They were irritated to hear they'd have to stay all day to get to JB..... UGH............ Go see JB at Great Woods, in that case, and don't come to a MUSIC FESTIVAL..........

Posted: August 5, 2008 2:46 pm
by changingchannels
randy1278 i completely agree with your thoughts on makin' music for money. its a complete slap in the fact to us.he wont sing it because even in his heart and mind its utterly wrong. just like i think he always cringes when he sings " no time to count what im worth".
Posted: August 5, 2008 2:50 pm
by LIPH
I only knew 2 of Brandi Carlile's songs but I thought she was really good. Jake, well, like other people have said he was incredible. I don't think I ever heard any Son Volt music before but they were really good. Levon Helm and his band were great. Even Calexico, who I only heard from way back in the "beer" tent, was pretty good. It was the headliner who was disappointing.