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Posted: August 5, 2008 4:16 pm
by RinglingRingling
flipflopgirl wrote:RAGTOP wrote:flipflopgirl wrote:Tiki Bar wrote: I honestly believe it is still fun for him to perform.
They wouldn't sell it if we didn't buy it.
I believe his i still having fun too..............how the h*ll could he not!
and you hit the nail on the head Joann....if people didn't buy it they would not have a market!
That is what is so perplexing... who is buying this crap? It's all junk, garbage, rubbish, every last bit of it (except for the shrimp, those were kind of tasty

)
Not me.....at least most of it...i have some flipflops and t-shirts i have bought at the different M'villes i have been to, but that's about it.....i spend my money going to shows and other parrothead events i really don't need a high priced blender that is going to sit on my counter doing nothing the majority of the time! I CHOSE NOT TO BUY IT...or LANDSHARK because i think it S*CKS!

Air Margaritaville caps, sure. Bomber jackets, sure. M'ville rum and tequila? less chance than me scoring 2 hours of Jimmy's time.
Posted: August 5, 2008 4:21 pm
by LIPH
This wasn't supposed to be a "Parrothead show". Scratch that idea. Wasn't it before the Anguilla show last year that he said something about doing 10 songs he hadn't played in 10 years? Scratch that idea too. Then was it last year or '06 when he was going to feature one album at each concert. That lasted, what, 2 shows? Scratch a third idea. Don't say s*** to get peoples' hopes up and then say ***** it, I'll do whatever the hell I want to do.
Posted: August 5, 2008 4:23 pm
by ph4ever
LIPH wrote:This wasn't supposed to be a "Parrothead show". Scratch that idea. Wasn't it before the Anguilla show last year that he said something about doing 10 songs he hadn't played in 10 years? Scratch that idea too. Then was it last year or '06 when he was going to feature one album at each concert. That lasted, what, 2 shows? Scratch a third idea. Don't say s*** to get peoples' hopes up and then say ***** it, I'll do whatever the hell I want to do.
I'm having a boat made in the pacific northwest and I plan to do more shows up here
Portland November 2005 - the last time he was in the PNW.
I gave up believing what he said years ago. I wanna go home where we have a show every year

Posted: August 5, 2008 4:24 pm
by changingchannels
LIPH wrote:This wasn't supposed to be a "Parrothead show". Scratch that idea. Wasn't it before the Anguilla show last year that he said something about doing 10 songs he hadn't played in 10 years? Scratch that idea too. Then was it last year or '06 when he was going to feature one album at each concert. That lasted, what, 2 shows? Scratch a third idea. Don't say s*** to get peoples' hopes up and then say ***** it, I'll do whatever the hell I want to do.
great point. i remember 2 years that each show was suppossed to feature a different album.when tickets went on sale i bought for more shows thinking that each show would be very different. i was wrong.
Posted: August 5, 2008 4:35 pm
by ejr
Hearing mostly the same songs over and over again each concert doesn't bother me as I know that most of the fans in the audience get to 1 show a year and really want to hear those songs.
Using a teleprompter doesn't really bother me either--he is personalizing some songs for the city he is in, and, let's face it, he is getting older, and the memory is not what it used to be! I think I would rather have him occasionally consult the teleprompter over totally screwing up a song that i may be hearing only once that year.
All the products with his name on it--I avoid most of them, and sort of go back and forth between marveling at his ability to make money in so many different ways, and wondering how much more is needed.
But when I read the Newport setlist, I was really disappointed. first, I do believe he went back on his word to do a nonparrothead show. But I also thought he really might try to reach into his music vault and play some tunes that really focused on the folk side of his music.
And while I thought both Chicago shows were great, and high energy, when I listen on RM, there are some shows that just seem uninspired. And I have been to a few of those as well-nothing different on the setlist, low energy and just nothing special.
Posted: August 5, 2008 4:39 pm
by INeverGoAnywhere
LIPH wrote:This wasn't supposed to be a "Parrothead show". Scratch that idea. Wasn't it before the Anguilla show last year that he said something about doing 10 songs he hadn't played in 10 years? Scratch that idea too. Then was it last year or '06 when he was going to feature one album at each concert. That lasted, what, 2 shows? Scratch a third idea. Don't say s*** to get peoples' hopes up and then say ***** it, I'll do whatever the hell I want to do.
I was just hoping he'd play his new album, 'Covers you know by heart' for the Newport show.....
Posted: August 5, 2008 4:47 pm
by changingchannels
"And while I thought both Chicago shows were great, and high energy, when I listen on RM, there are some shows that just seem uninspired. And I have been to a few of those as well-nothing different on the setlist, low energy and just nothing special."
there is no doubt that listening to the shows and being at the shows are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum.but to me anyway this years shows do seem uninspired.i dont know what it is because he has played a few great songs from the back catalog, i just think the order of the songs doesnt work well. plus the covers. a tuned down homemade music doesnt seem to really get the party starting either.especially when you compare it to when he opened with lage nom ai!
Posted: August 5, 2008 4:50 pm
by changingchannels
"I was just hoping he'd play his new album, 'Covers you know by heart' for the Newport show.....
here it is:
glory days
rainy day women
brown eyed girl
southern cross
trippin' billies
big ol goofy world
werewolves in london
scarlet begonias
on the road again
dixie chicken
the horizon has been defeated
Posted: August 5, 2008 5:45 pm
by moog
Look. When he kind of changed in the mid to late 80's the 70's crowd went ballastic. COBO was full of them. It didn't matter, as they faded away a new crowd came in to fill the seats. Am I losing my taste with the new stuff? Sure, but I supplement with other music and only listen to Buffett from May thru early Oct, aside from the broadcast concerts.
I'm a Love In the Library and Lone Palm kind of guy.
Posted: August 5, 2008 5:54 pm
by Catch&Release
I guess if he was ever going to break the SYKBH mold for one show, Newport was going 2 be that gig - especially after he said so!
Newport & Hong Kong - 2 smaller venue shows in 2008 that I initially was kicking myself for not going. Until I saw the set lists and realized that I could have heard the same songs for thousands of dollars less at any ampitheater show.
I could see why he stuck to the basics in HK. He didn't know if anybody would know the off the beaten path songs other than the couple of songs with China in the title.
I guess that if a chance to just see Jimmy and Mac, like at the Sept 2006 Kinky benefit - I should jump at the chance. Otherwise, I think the trend is that he is going to play the same 24 songs with maybe 2 or 3 different songs thrown in.
Maybe familiarity breeds contempt. I just don't get that fired up to hear CIP or Volcano or WDWGDAS or Brown Eyed Girl.
Oh yeah - as far as SYKBH, why doesn't he play He Went to Paris anymore? He closed with a spine chilling version in Cincy in 2006. Wish he'd play that more than the others he's been closingh the shows with.
Oh well. I know I will give Jimmy (aka Mr. Margaritaville, Inc) at least a half a week's pay in 2009 for concert tix. Why do I bother complaining?
Posted: August 5, 2008 5:57 pm
by Dutch Harbor PH
Posted: August 5, 2008 6:09 pm
by Catch&Release
I disagree, very strongly.
Parrothead show - what he does every concert. Parrothead is what happened in the 80's when the concert became more of a "let's get dressed up in a parrot costume and get wasted" phenomena than appreciating Jimmy's song writing skills.
Parrohead has devolved into "Parrothead/frat rat" where the now 40 plus year olds who ushered in the "let's get wasted and act like morons dressed as parrots or box of junior mints" are now joined by the frat rats who do the same thing and whine when they don't hear "bama breeze'
True story - he was playing "Far Side of the World" in St. Louis when a frat rat dressed in a grass skirt and coconut bra seated behind me talked through the song and ended his very loud converstaion with "When do you think he is gonna play 'Bama Breeze'"
I think "parrothead" just means "mindless partier".
Not a parrothead show means - not teh same old $hit I've been shilling for the past 20 years, in my opinion. So what if the frat rats/SYKBH "parrotheads" might not appreciate some of teh older acoustic stuff...Most of the fans who belong to boards and will go to Anguilla, etc will go wild and - why not throw a few classics into a gig at Newport.
Posted: August 5, 2008 6:53 pm
by ScarletB
I guess I don't hold entertainers to any kind of higher standard, I pay to go see them, if I have fun, I'm happy. Of course I'm a fairly recent fan so maybe that makes a difference. I am not, however a SYKBH fan, I've made an effort to become familiar with his older stuff as well and would I love to hear some of it? Sure. But almost any entertainer plays to the lowest common denominator in the audience, that's just how it is. Lots of us see him multiple times and listen to every concert that we aren't attending on RM, no wonder you're bored with the setlist. And if he wants to put his name on toilet paper what possible difference does that make? I'm sorry, I just don't get it. I've met a bunch of you folks now and if nothing else that has made this whole trip worthwhile.
Posted: August 5, 2008 6:55 pm
by Glorfindel7
I think everyone misunderstood what he meant....
He's right about ONE thing it WASN'T a Parrot Head show.... There were quite a few "non-Jimmy" fans in this audience....
I don't read ANYTHING in what he says that leads me to believe that he wasn't talking about doing a "parrothead style" show (e.g. a regular concert)
Just my 2cents
Posted: August 5, 2008 7:01 pm
by Kerpat
my 'keet has been in pediatric intensive care since 2/08. when I heard this show as going to be "different" we decided to go ahead and get tix, hoping the 'keet would be better. 'keet is still in ICU and while it was a nice day out, it was not what was promised and given the safrices hubby and I made to be there, I am a tad bit bitter. Had this been a "regular" show, we would not have made the effort, but being longtime parrotheads and getting tired of the same old (cheeseburger and brown eyed girl!) we though we would give it ago. never again. what a true disappointment.
Posted: August 5, 2008 7:31 pm
by Randy1278
Glorfindel7 wrote:I think everyone misunderstood what he meant....
He's right about ONE thing it WASN'T a Parrot Head show.... There were quite a few "non-Jimmy" fans in this audience....
I don't read ANYTHING in what he says that leads me to believe that he wasn't talking about doing a "parrothead style" show (e.g. a regular concert)
Just my 2cents
There are always a lot of "non Jimmy" fans at the shows. They used to stick to the lawn, and now they seem to follow me where ever I sit. For example, at both shows in Chicago we were on the floor, in the A section, Rows 12 and 13 I think and on Thursday a lovely woman sat next to me and asked if we were going to stand for the entire show. She sat there the entire night with her arms crossed over her chest. On Saturday, a couple sat next to me and asked me why everyone is dressed up and making so much noise during the show. There was a girl behind me who asked several times if he was going to play Margaritaville and other yellow album songs.
Posted: August 5, 2008 7:33 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
Kerpat wrote:my 'keet has been in pediatric intensive care since 2/08. when I heard this show as going to be "different" we decided to go ahead and get tix, hoping the 'keet would be better. 'keet is still in ICU and while it was a nice day out, it was not what was promised and given the safrices hubby and I made to be there, I am a tad bit bitter. Had this been a "regular" show, we would not have made the effort, but being longtime parrotheads and getting tired of the same old (cheeseburger and brown eyed girl!) we though we would give it ago. never again. what a true disappointment.
(((((((Kerry, Patrick & Finnegan)))))))
Re: Disagree
Posted: August 5, 2008 7:52 pm
by MrsOver40ClevePirate
ChumWithA BottleOfRum wrote:I think Jimmy would love to change up his setlist but would get so many complaints. Out of the 15,000 people or so that go to his shows, what percentage do you think would actually know songs like treat her like a lady, king of somewhere hot, thats my story and im sticking to it, etc. Not many! Most of the people that goto shows are familiar with the SYKBH album and thats pretty much it. I compare it when I go to other shows such as Tom Petty and Bruce. I know the greatest hits buts thats about it. If I went to one of those shows and they played all stuff I didnt know I would be upset. Of course we here, all jimmy die hards would love to hear a new set list filled with those classic gems and treasures he rarely plays but it is just not feasible for the 80% of people there that are not avid PHs. Hopefully one day, Jimmy will tour little backyard places and small exotic destinations and we will get our wish. Until then, enjoy his music and vibe and be greatful he is still giving us as many shows as he does. And if anybody thinks its "just to collect a paycheck", get your head out of your a**, the man is worth 400million dollars!
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Posted: August 5, 2008 7:55 pm
by flipflopgirl
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Kerpat wrote:my 'keet has been in pediatric intensive care since 2/08. when I heard this show as going to be "different" we decided to go ahead and get tix, hoping the 'keet would be better. 'keet is still in ICU and while it was a nice day out, it was not what was promised and given the safrices hubby and I made to be there, I am a tad bit bitter. Had this been a "regular" show, we would not have made the effort, but being longtime parrotheads and getting tired of the same old (cheeseburger and brown eyed girl!) we though we would give it ago. never again. what a true disappointment.
(((((((Kerry, Patrick & Finnegan)))))))
What Jen said..... lots of thoughts and prayers for you, Finn and Patrick!

Posted: August 5, 2008 8:17 pm
by CT_Pats_Phan
Well, I loved the show for the following reasons:
1) Value - Got to see a full day's worth of great music and 3/4 of a Buffett show for $235 - 2 adults, and 2 kids at $15 each. Parking was a whopping $15 and we were out of the park 5 minutes after we got to our car (well, 10 minutes, because we helped jump start a truck from Michigan).
2) Seats - Was as close as I've ever been to the stage going back 14 years of shows.
3) Family Friendly - although I love a good tailgate, it was very nice not having 15,000 plastered idiots around you. It was a very laid back atmosphere and there were a lot of things to see and do.
4) Setting - absolutely amazing for all the reasons folks have already posted.
Face it, if he did an all acoustic show of obscure folk songs, a bunch of people would be b*tching about that. You can't please everybody.
I personally didn't know what to expect and told my kids it may not be a parrothead show, to just roll with the punches so to speak.
If you are just looking at the set list and making judgements, I can see why you'd say, "Same old stuff". Well I don't think it was the same old stuff. To me, that was the best overall experience I've had at a show and will be more memorable than anything I've seen in Hartford, Greatwoods, Foxboro, Mohegan, or Fenway. The same old stuff is going to be in Mansfield on Sept. 4th, for which I now have 4 tickets for sale.