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ccmatt wrote:I remember thinking it was weird that Jane needed a travel companion when I read APLA50 years ago. I also remember thinking that "compassionate vulcan" was not exactly a compliment.

SMLCHNG wrote:While I welcome you to BN, borntowindsurf.. :)

90% (my estimated number) of what you are complaining about at a concert, Jimmy personally has no control over those things. Nor does any musician have at their concerts.

Mottola-Buffett wrote:

borntowindsurf wrote:I have been a parrothead since before there were parrotheads. I have seen Jimmy Buffet at least 20 times over the last 30 years. He has always been someone I admired and never minded paying good money to see. That has all changed. I have paid good money for the last time.

While Jimmy's pockets keep getting fuller, ours seem to be shrinking. For such a "philanthropist," he seems to have no control over what he charges for his concerts or who can be admitted to the venue. The last time I saw him, not only did we overpay for the seats in heaven, it seems that the surrounding parrotheads had no respect for anyone but themselves. For the 1.5 hours that Jimmy was on stage, the landsharks were circling, the drunken, loud, stinky, obnoxious lugs of human beings. To make things worse, there was vomit all around us from too much liquor. I, too, had my few beers at the tailgate party in the parking lot but by the time the concert started, I was sober enough to enjoy the music. It was very unfortunate that the people around us prevented us from doing that, enjoying the music. There was no license to chill, but rather license to overdrink and become disgusting human beings. So here we are, $500 in the hole for a night of entertainment that never happened. I am so upset and dissappointed that Jimmy would allow the venues he rents to allow the drunk and disorderly people into the concert. They should be kept in the parking lot. These parrotheads should be totally ashamed of themselves.

Never never again. I sure hope that someone at this website can get this message to him. I am campaigning to everyone who will listen. What a waste of money.


Signed...
An EX-parrothead!

Welcome to BN, borntowindsurf. Speaking as someone that considers herself a HUGE JB fan, I must remind you that one does not need to attend a show to be a true parrothead - I haven't been in 17 years.

borntowindsurf wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:While I welcome you to BN, borntowindsurf..

90% (my estimated number) of what you are complaining about at a concert, Jimmy personally has no control over those things. Nor does any musician have at their concerts.

Actually, he does have some personal control. He has alot of influence on his fans as does Oprah have with the country. What has happpend to "moderation seems to be the key?" That seems to be lost in translation somewhere. He can certainly make attempts to influence the fans each time he makes a personal appearance on a TV show or has an interview with a journalist. Put it out there... emphasize "moderation."

How much money do you make? How much does he make? Do you think there is balance there? Do you think he would even blink at paying $500 for a show? I bet it would make you hesitate. I am totally aware that he "gives back" but where is he getting the money from? Us. We have paid for his homes, boats, and planes. So whether it's dishing out $15 for a book or $500 for a concert, my expectations are that I be entertained and receive some joy. I have paid for that. The concerts are no longer entertainment and certainly not joyous. I am not going to support that kind of environment.

Keep in mind that between all of his marketing, books, recordings, concerts, he most definately has to take some responsibilty for the behaviour of his fans. He has promoted "drunk and disorderly" his entire career and perhaps in his sunset years, it is time to depower those sails.

borntowindsurf wrote:

Mottola-Buffett wrote:

borntowindsurf wrote:I have been a parrothead since before there were parrotheads. I have seen Jimmy Buffet at least 20 times over the last 30 years. He has always been someone I admired and never minded paying good money to see. That has all changed. I have paid good money for the last time.

While Jimmy's pockets keep getting fuller, ours seem to be shrinking. For such a "philanthropist," he seems to have no control over what he charges for his concerts or who can be admitted to the venue. The last time I saw him, not only did we overpay for the seats in heaven, it seems that the surrounding parrotheads had no respect for anyone but themselves. For the 1.5 hours that Jimmy was on stage, the landsharks were circling, the drunken, loud, stinky, obnoxious lugs of human beings. To make things worse, there was vomit all around us from too much liquor. I, too, had my few beers at the tailgate party in the parking lot but by the time the concert started, I was sober enough to enjoy the music. It was very unfortunate that the people around us prevented us from doing that, enjoying the music. There was no license to chill, but rather license to overdrink and become disgusting human beings. So here we are, $500 in the hole for a night of entertainment that never happened. I am so upset and dissappointed that Jimmy would allow the venues he rents to allow the drunk and disorderly people into the concert. They should be kept in the parking lot. These parrotheads should be totally ashamed of themselves.

Never never again. I sure hope that someone at this website can get this message to him. I am campaigning to everyone who will listen. What a waste of money.


Signed...
An EX-parrothead!

Welcome to BN, borntowindsurf. Speaking as someone that considers herself a HUGE JB fan, I must remind you that one does not need to attend a show to be a true parrothead - I haven't been in 17 years.

Count your blessings!! Note the EX-parrothead sign off.

wanderingtoes wrote:He did build three new homes for people who lost their homes on the MS Gulf Coast, not known to the public, and the people not known to him, he just wanted to make a difference. Just an FYI

If you don't consider yourself a fan, why are you on a Buffett fan site? If I didn't like something, there's no way I'd be hanging out somewhere on the web that promoted/discussed it.

And blaming Jimmy for the drunken actions of fans is just ludicrous. It's not Jimmy's fault people are idiots.

JustDucky wrote:That kind of sarcastic Parrothead self righteousness about buffettnews is so boring and old. If this place was only a pro-Jimmy site only then probably a good amount of people here - including me - would not be able to post or whatever. Wow, how wonderful it would be to have a place where Jimmy is nothing but praised for his genius perforances and schlock to buy more and more of every year! And how he's going to be a folky and do something different at Newport but...nahhh, just stick to the same ol' same 'ol.

Did you not read what he said? He's not going to shows anymore. And he sited very good reasons, pretty much the same reasons I stopped going (the others are, of course, my disgust with the whole BEG etc...trip). And he (sorry if it is a she, I'm just guessing) sited his OWN reasons.

And yet you went to the show and now we have to listen to you complain that it turned out exactly as you say he has advertised "his entire career"?

phjrsaunt wrote:Okay. Got it. Chill, please.

Believe me, there are more significant things and to spend time fussing about.

borntowindsurf wrote: Actually, he does have some personal control. He has alot of influence on his fans as does Oprah have with the country. What has happpend to "moderation seems to be the key?" That seems to be lost in translation somewhere. He can certainly make attempts to influence the fans each time he makes a personal appearance on a TV show or has an interview with a journalist. Put it out there... emphasize "moderation."

How much money do you make? How much does he make? Do you think there is balance there? Do you think he would even blink at paying $500 for a show? I bet it would make you hesitate. I am totally aware that he "gives back" but where is he getting the money from? Us. We have paid for his homes, boats, and planes. So whether it's dishing out $15 for a book or $500 for a concert, my expectations are that I be entertained and receive some joy. I have paid for that. The concerts are no longer entertainment and certainly not joyous. I am not going to support that kind of environment.

Keep in mind that between all of his marketing, books, recordings, concerts, he most definately has to take some responsibilty for the behaviour of his fans. He has promoted "drunk and disorderly" his entire career and perhaps in his sunset years, it is time to depower those sails.

phjrsaunt wrote:Okay. Got it. Chill, please.

Believe me, there are more significant things and to spend time fussing about.

ccmatt wrote:I remember thinking it was weird that Jane needed a travel companion when I read APLA50 years ago. I also remember thinking that "compassionate vulcan" was not exactly a compliment.

ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:

ccmatt wrote:I remember thinking it was weird that Jane needed a travel companion when I read APLA50 years ago. I also remember thinking that "compassionate vulcan" was not exactly a compliment.

Actually, Jimmy explained very well the reasons why Jane suggested that they both have traveling companions. You might want to reread that segment of the book. As much as they enjoy each others company they have learned through the years that it is okay not to like the same things, thus the traveling companions. Jane had her gal pal with whom she could do the girly stuff, and Jimmy had his guy pal with whom he could do the guy stuff. It is not weird. In fact, it makes perfect sense.

The impression that I get when Jimmy makes refferences to Jane is that he has a tremendous amount of love and respect for this woman who has worked very hard on herself and who has worked very hard on her family. I don't know much about Jane, but she sure has won my respect and admiration. She does not walk in a very easy pair of shoes.