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Posted: **August 9, 2008 5:23 pm**

beignet wrote:Was it just me, or did anyone have a hard time following that article? It was just badly written, jabs at JB aside. It was just really disjointed, and forced. As if, because she brought up the beach, she had to mention Buffett.

Nah, it was not just you! It was just a case of someone who had nothing better to do with her time but to join a Buffett fan site if only for a few minutes to get a rise out of people, and unfortunately, it worked.

Posted: **August 9, 2008 5:35 pm**

SMLCHNG wrote:
borntowindsurf wrote: Actually, he does have some personal control. He has alot of influence on his fans as does Oprah have with the country. What has happpend to "moderation seems to be the key?" That seems to be lost in translation somewhere. He can certainly make attempts to influence the fans each time he makes a personal appearance on a TV show or has an interview with a journalist. Put it out there... emphasize "moderation."

How much money do you make? How much does he make? Do you think there is balance there? Do you think he would even blink at paying $500 for a show? I bet it would make you hesitate. I am totally aware that he "gives back" but where is he getting the money from? Us. We have paid for his homes, boats, and planes. So whether it's dishing out $15 for a book or $500 for a concert, my expectations are that I be entertained and receive some joy. I have paid for that. The concerts are no longer entertainment and certainly not joyous. I am not going to support that kind of environment.

Keep in mind that between all of his marketing, books, recordings, concerts, he most definately has to take some responsibilty for the behaviour of his fans. He has promoted "drunk and disorderly" his entire career and perhaps in his sunset years, it is time to depower those sails.
I don’t think Jimmy needs to be responsible for other people’s lives. They should be responsible for their own lives.

What Penny said!!!

Posted: **August 9, 2008 6:10 pm**

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
SMLCHNG wrote:
borntowindsurf wrote: Actually, he does have some personal control. He has alot of influence on his fans as does Oprah have with the country. What has happpend to "moderation seems to be the key?" That seems to be lost in translation somewhere. He can certainly make attempts to influence the fans each time he makes a personal appearance on a TV show or has an interview with a journalist. Put it out there... emphasize "moderation."

How much money do you make? How much does he make? Do you think there is balance there? Do you think he would even blink at paying $500 for a show? I bet it would make you hesitate. I am totally aware that he "gives back" but where is he getting the money from? Us. We have paid for his homes, boats, and planes. So whether it's dishing out $15 for a book or $500 for a concert, my expectations are that I be entertained and receive some joy. I have paid for that. The concerts are no longer entertainment and certainly not joyous. I am not going to support that kind of environment.

Keep in mind that between all of his marketing, books, recordings, concerts, he most definately has to take some responsibilty for the behaviour of his fans. He has promoted "drunk and disorderly" his entire career and perhaps in his sunset years, it is time to depower those sails.
I don’t think Jimmy needs to be responsible for other people’s lives. They should be responsible for their own lives.
What Penny said!!!

Exactly....there are too many people in this world who take no responsibility for their actions and sadly they are raising children to be that way.

i have heard Jimmy tell stories about his drunk and disorderly days....but i never heard him TELL me to go out and do it myself! If people go to a show and get out of control it is their action and they need to OWN UP TO IT...not try to blame someone else for it.

Posted: **August 10, 2008 7:35 pm**

at least she spelled his name right

oh, and apparently you can leave comments on the article.

Posted: **August 11, 2008 2:11 pm**

One ex-Parrothead = more tickies for ME !!!

Posted: **August 11, 2008 2:15 pm**

Damn what a way to go on vacation! I want to go!

Posted: **August 11, 2008 2:21 pm**

borntowindsurf_inactive wrote:While Jimmy's pockets keep getting fuller, ours seem to be shrinking.

Call me crazy but isn't this Economics 101? Isn't that the purpose of being in business?

When someone offers a product or service, they want to SELL it to someone else for a profit. If they don't, they can no longer operate.

When you purchase something, your pockets shrink a little...or a lot in some instances!

Okay, enough said....I think I have school on the brain.

Posted: **August 13, 2008 8:35 am**

flipflopgirl wrote:Exactly....there are too many people in this world who take no responsibility for their actions and sadly they are raising children to be that way.

i have heard Jimmy tell stories about his drunk and disorderly days....but i never heard him TELL me to go out and do it myself! If people go to a show and get out of control it is their action and they need to OWN UP TO IT...not try to blame someone else for it.

I think this is exactly it. This issue is not just at JB concerts. Here in NJ, they're limiting tailgaiting time at Jets/Giants games because people get too drunk before the game. At the Arts Center, they're doing away with tailgaiting at certain concerts due to the amount of drinking. I think some of this is overkill but some of it has been brought on because of people that don't take responsibility for their own actions.

I don't think it's Buffett's responsibility to do all "charity" concerts. That's like saying, once anyone makes over a certain amount, they should keep working for free and donate all of their earnings to charity. He's in business. I do think some of it's overkill and he has a chance of oversaturating his brand. But, he's essentially marketing his brand at this point. And people are still buying for now.

Posted: **August 13, 2008 10:43 am**

Catch&Release wrote:I have been complaining A LOT lately about the setlist, frat boy crods, etc.

One thing I will not bemoan - Jimmy Buffett's choice as to how he travels.

In A Pirate Looks at 50 he discusses at length why he and his son "the men" choose to fly in the very loud, slow and not so comfortable Hemisphere Dancer flying boat while the women choose to go in the fast, quiet, comfortable Citation jet.

The stories of his landings in the Turks & Caicos and Colombia are hilarious and very interesting.

Heck, my wife complains if I take the "scenic route" that adds more than an extra 15 minutes to our trip.

Jimmy was just being chivalrous letting his ladies take the jet when the whole point of his 50th birthday was to take his flying boat to South America.

The man knows how to enjoy himself. Nothing wrong with that. Just wish he'd jettison BEG, CIP and WDWGDAS for some of the lesser known songs.

--I had read in an article once, and I will try to find it..... that he flies separate from his family because he likes to fly, but at one time almost crashed with his family in the plane, so now he makes them fly separate out of fear that something will happen to them.

after all, almost crashing doesnt seem to be the only problem..... getting shot at, getting accused of carrying drugs........ why put your family through that.

Plus, how long are they vacationing for??? If they vacation for a month at a time..... well then you need a lot of stuff.

and as far as him wasting our $$, he earned it. My customers dont tell me how I should be spending my paycheck. Maybe it wasnt earned killing his self behind a desk, and it was earned having a great time.

Who's the dummy??

Posted: **August 13, 2008 10:50 am**

flipflopgirl wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
SMLCHNG wrote:
borntowindsurf wrote: Actually, he does have some personal control. He has alot of influence on his fans as does Oprah have with the country. What has happpend to "moderation seems to be the key?" That seems to be lost in translation somewhere. He can certainly make attempts to influence the fans each time he makes a personal appearance on a TV show or has an interview with a journalist. Put it out there... emphasize "moderation."

How much money do you make? How much does he make? Do you think there is balance there? Do you think he would even blink at paying $500 for a show? I bet it would make you hesitate. I am totally aware that he "gives back" but where is he getting the money from? Us. We have paid for his homes, boats, and planes. So whether it's dishing out $15 for a book or $500 for a concert, my expectations are that I be entertained and receive some joy. I have paid for that. The concerts are no longer entertainment and certainly not joyous. I am not going to support that kind of environment.

Keep in mind that between all of his marketing, books, recordings, concerts, he most definately has to take some responsibilty for the behaviour of his fans. He has promoted "drunk and disorderly" his entire career and perhaps in his sunset years, it is time to depower those sails.
I don’t think Jimmy needs to be responsible for other people’s lives. They should be responsible for their own lives.
What Penny said!!!

Exactly....there are too many people in this world who take no responsibility for their actions and sadly they are raising children to be that way.

i have heard Jimmy tell stories about his drunk and disorderly days....but i never heard him TELL me to go out and do it myself! If people go to a show and get out of control it is their action and they need to OWN UP TO IT...not try to blame someone else for it.

--- I have a comment on many other artists. Has anyone heard some of the garbage that is out there?? And some of the things that these bands are singing about?? Hurting people, sex, cutting themselfs, and a whole slew of other talentless garbage.

think of Jimmy music as "feel good" music. And hey, go out and have a good time music. Enjoy your life music, and remember it could always be worse music. Breathe in, breathe out, move on music.

It is good party music too, and there is always some jacka$$ at EVERY party that goes overboard.

As the matter of fact, I would have to think that most of us have at least one family member with that issue.Or one friend with that issue. And what do you do or say when this happens?? You could have one jackass at every party that gets out of control and no one says anything. But somehow Jimmy is supposed to control what 30,000 + people are doing??

Posted: **August 13, 2008 11:29 am**

alaura1974 wrote:But somehow Jimmy is supposed to control what 30,000 + people are doing??

If he was really God's messenger, he probably could control 30,000+ people.

Posted: **August 13, 2008 11:49 am**

Isn't this how most of us take a swipe at Jimmy?

Posted: **August 13, 2008 1:23 pm**

Migration Michelle wrote:
borntowindsurf_inactive wrote:While Jimmy's pockets keep getting fuller, ours seem to be shrinking.
Call me crazy but isn't this Economics 101? Isn't that the purpose of being in business?

When someone offers a product or service, they want to SELL it to someone else for a profit. If they don't, they can no longer operate.

When you purchase something, your pockets shrink a little...or a lot in some instances!

Okay, enough said....I think I have school on the brain.

Exactly, from what I have read here, apparently being hardworking and successful does not apply to Jimmy. In his case he has to take his earnings and give them away to people in need on a larger scale then any other musician, businessman or performer. People really should give it a rest and stop trying to make people like Jimmy Buffett responsible for their lot in life. People need to look out for and be responsible for themselves and stop trying to get into the pockets or those who have succeeded at whatever their goals were.

Posted: **August 13, 2008 10:03 pm**

It all goes to say, if you don't like him, don't go or listen to him. But I happen to like him and find his music the easiest to listen to and drift off. Why join a site just long enough to b**** and moan because you think Jimmy can control our lives? If someone goes to his concert and gets drunk and acts like an idiot it sure wasn't Jimmy pulling his strings...
I got an Idea...why don't we all get drunk and ....er, well, never mind.

couldn't resist a little fun

Posted: **August 14, 2008 3:44 am**

LIBuffettFan wrote:
Migration Michelle wrote:
borntowindsurf_inactive wrote:While Jimmy's pockets keep getting fuller, ours seem to be shrinking.
Call me crazy but isn't this Economics 101? Isn't that the purpose of being in business?

When someone offers a product or service, they want to SELL it to someone else for a profit. If they don't, they can no longer operate.

When you purchase something, your pockets shrink a little...or a lot in some instances!

Okay, enough said....I think I have school on the brain.

Exactly, from what I have read here, apparently being hardworking and successful does not apply to Jimmy. In his case he has to take his earnings and give them away to people in need on a larger scale then any other musician, businessman or performer. People really should give it a rest and stop trying to make people like Jimmy Buffett responsible for their lot in life. People need to look out for and be responsible for themselves and stop trying to get into the pockets or those who have succeeded at whatever their goals were.

I think some folks have a certain image of Jimmy as being the guy who lives the beach bum life all the time where it is an escape and one big party all the time. Sure, his shows are fantastic, and I love taking a day off here and there out of my life to free myself from most responsibilities and stress, and his shows provide that atmosphere for me. However, it is just a fantasy, and I can't be in that fantasy all the time. Jimmy may sing about a fantasy world, but he does live in the real world where he does have to work his butt off in order to maintain the success that he has earned. When the business ventures started coming his way his music career was slowing down. He was smart enough to venture out and find other avenues of making money. In the end, it is my opinion that him exploring business opportunities revitalized the music career. Behind that shucky darn good old boy image is a very briliant man. Now as far as people thinking that he does not do enough for charity? Well, again, in my opinion I don't believe we know even half of what Jimmy does for others, and we shouldn't know everything that he does for others.

Posted: **August 14, 2008 6:39 am**

Agreed, and I guess it is that maybe some people dont realize that some people do things for people in need not because it will be advertised in the newspaper, but because it makes them feel good.

Not everyone needs the "hey look at me, I am generous" ad on TV.

Some of the best feelings that I have had are helping people from a distance, or doing a simple act of kindness just to see the smile or sigh of relief on a persons face without the thanks, and without having to take credit. I guess sort of a secret Santa concept, but never finding out who the secret Santa is.

Doing it just to feel good, not to appear as some kind of martyr.

Posted: **August 14, 2008 9:58 am**

Just a thought on Jimmy promoting better behavior at his concerts, I remember reading a lot of posts last tour season (and these may have been at that "other" webboard) about enough is enough with the boob shots during the videos and why is that necessary. Went to 2 concerts this year and I don't remember seeing any of that this time. One small step for womankind? and maybe they do listen?

Posted: **August 14, 2008 11:31 am**

csmithnj wrote: I don't think it's Buffett's responsibility to do all "charity" concerts. That's like saying, once anyone makes over a certain amount, they should keep working for free and donate all of their earnings to charity. He's in business. I do think some of it's overkill and he has a chance of oversaturating his brand. But, he's essentially marketing his brand at this point. And people are still buying for now.

Isnt that the platform that Obama is running on? Although it isnt donating to charity, it is donating to the government.

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