We gotta turn this car around...

parrotheadmike · Post by **parrotheadmike** » August 7, 2008 6:52 pm

Y-NO-9-O wrote:And again I ask this type of question:
Why are you posting in a thread that was clearly put here to give some of the people who post here some place to say it's still OK to like Jimmy? There are so many negative threads to contribute to, I am curious why you need to try to sell it here, too? Trust me, I whole-heartedly understand each of your viewpoints. I just choose not to have an entertainer's every step govern his lasting achievements or my liking/disliking the songs. I love the old stuff, and yet, I love the now.

Exactly what I was thinking! I also wonder why people who do not have fun with Jimmy continue to posts on this site. Isn't there a Chesneynews.com site somewhere?

Tarheel Tail-Gator · Post by **Tarheel Tail-Gator** » August 7, 2008 7:05 pm

As others have said, the original thread is: Very Well Written!

There's definitely nothing wrong with a little disagreement or change of opinion.

However, I do think it's disturbing that one BNer in particular continues to post negativity in nearly every thread this week.

We get it-You don't want to spend your money on Jimmy anymore, you'd rather spend it elsewhere. That's your choice. However, there's no need to continue to rant and rave in every thread. Post something new or let it go.

As my good friend Cocotel would say, "Smile, Damb It!"

pcbfan · Post by **pcbfan** » August 7, 2008 7:32 pm

z-man wrote:I'll drink some of that kool-aid, but I'm putting some rum in it!

YUMMY!!!

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » August 7, 2008 8:03 pm

parrotheadmike wrote:
Y-NO-9-O wrote:And again I ask this type of question:
Why are you posting in a thread that was clearly put here to give some of the people who post here some place to say it's still OK to like Jimmy? There are so many negative threads to contribute to, I am curious why you need to try to sell it here, too? Trust me, I whole-heartedly understand each of your viewpoints. I just choose not to have an entertainer's every step govern his lasting achievements or my liking/disliking the songs. I love the old stuff, and yet, I love the now.
Exactly what I was thinking! I also wonder why people who do not have fun with Jimmy continue to posts on this site. Isn't there a Chesneynews.com site somewhere?

I think it died...........

Y-NO-9-O · Post by **Y-NO-9-O** » August 7, 2008 8:16 pm

As a footnote: I don't drink the kool-aid, I have never been to a CIP, the cheeseburger I ate in Margaritaville, KW, restaurant in the 90's was terrible, I am not crazy about M'ville Tequila, I will not pay import prices for a Landshark Lager imported from Jacksonville, FL, and I have never even tried M'ville shrimp. But I would never fault anyone for liking any of these things. And it really doesn't bother me that these are all JB products. It just doesn't. And no post on this website will ever change that fact. I have liked the music since I was introduced to it and have liked it through the last 30-some-odd years. Sorry if that bothers so many of you.

Post by **SMLCHNG** » August 7, 2008 8:18 pm

Y-NO-9-O wrote:As a footnote: I don't drink the kool-aid, I have never been to a CIP, the cheeseburger I ate in Margaritaville, KW, restaurant in the 90's was terrible, I am not crazy about M'ville Tequila, I will not pay import prices for a Landshark Lager imported from Jacksonville, FL, and I have never even tried M'ville shrimp. But I would never fault anyone for liking any of these things. And it really doesn't bother me that these are all JB products. It just doesn't. And no post on this website will ever change that fact. I have liked the music since I was introduced to it and have liked it through the last 30-some-odd years. Sorry if that bothers so many of you.

Dutch Harbor PH · Post by **Dutch Harbor PH** » August 7, 2008 8:31 pm

LIPH wrote:
Salukulady wrote:
LIPH wrote:Contratian that I am, I always find threads like this a little disturbing. To me they come across as wanting everyone to think alike and any dissenting view is seen as "negative". I prefer to live in the real world where different people, even if they all have something in common, have different opinions, like different things and don't find any of those differences "negative", "threatening" or "insulting". It's OK not to think everything Jimmy does is great, it's OK not to think a setlist that almost 1/3 cover songs is great, it's OK not to think every product he's shilling is great. And most of all, it's OK for someone to say they don't think those things are always great. Really, it is.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
"Disturbing" yet also a very refreshing. I was a complete cockeyed optimist in my younger days. I find myself getting more cynical and negative the older I get, and remember watching my Mom do the same thing as she aged. I am trying desperately not to convey that on my kids. I'm not saying we have to agree, I never want anyone to be the same, act the same or have the same opinion; I like the world mixed up. But I also really appreciate any positive attitude thrown my way. Anyone remember the book, "I'm OK, You're OK"?
I remember it but I didn't read it. I think the one I read was called something like "I'm OK, Everyone Else Is An A-hole."

Gotta agree with Larry that what makes the world an interesting place is that we are all not the same....at the sametime...Opinons are like assholes...everybody's got 1..... (or in my case 2 or 3...

) in my case....I'm still having fun...... have I heard that setlist before???? Probably...... Do I get up to go take a leak or get another beer when I hear SYKBH songs? Oh hell yes I do....Bottomline for me is; Did I leave the show with a smile on my face and a cool memory or 2??? when I answer that with a No, that's probably time for me to move on......in the meantime, I'm still havin' fun.....then again, I have can have fun with a stick and a rock......

Please pass the bug juice, make mine the orange stuff!!!!

Salukulady · Post by **Salukulady** » August 7, 2008 8:33 pm

Dutch Harbor PH wrote:
LIPH wrote:
Salukulady wrote:
LIPH wrote:Contratian that I am, I always find threads like this a little disturbing. To me they come across as wanting everyone to think alike and any dissenting view is seen as "negative". I prefer to live in the real world where different people, even if they all have something in common, have different opinions, like different things and don't find any of those differences "negative", "threatening" or "insulting". It's OK not to think everything Jimmy does is great, it's OK not to think a setlist that almost 1/3 cover songs is great, it's OK not to think every product he's shilling is great. And most of all, it's OK for someone to say they don't think those things are always great. Really, it is.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
"Disturbing" yet also a very refreshing. I was a complete cockeyed optimist in my younger days. I find myself getting more cynical and negative the older I get, and remember watching my Mom do the same thing as she aged. I am trying desperately not to convey that on my kids. I'm not saying we have to agree, I never want anyone to be the same, act the same or have the same opinion; I like the world mixed up. But I also really appreciate any positive attitude thrown my way. Anyone remember the book, "I'm OK, You're OK"?
I remember it but I didn't read it. I think the one I read was called something like "I'm OK, Everyone Else Is An A-hole."
Gotta agree with Larry that what makes the world an interesting place is that we are all not the same....at the sametime...Opinons are like assholes...everybody's got 1..... (or in my case 2 or 3... ) in my case....I'm still having fun...... have I heard that setlist before???? Probably...... Do I get up to go take a leak or get another beer when I hear SYKBH songs? Oh hell yes I do....Bottomline for me is; Did I leave the show with a smile on my face and a cool memory or 2??? when I answer that with a No, that's probably time for me to move on......in the meantime, I'm still havin' fun.....then again, I have can have fun with a stick and a rock......

Please pass the bug juice, make mine the orange stuff!!!!

Dutch is a sage.

Dutch Harbor PH · Post by **Dutch Harbor PH** » August 7, 2008 8:37 pm

Salukulady wrote:
Dutch Harbor PH wrote:
LIPH wrote:
Salukulady wrote:
LIPH wrote:Contratian that I am, I always find threads like this a little disturbing. To me they come across as wanting everyone to think alike and any dissenting view is seen as "negative". I prefer to live in the real world where different people, even if they all have something in common, have different opinions, like different things and don't find any of those differences "negative", "threatening" or "insulting". It's OK not to think everything Jimmy does is great, it's OK not to think a setlist that almost 1/3 cover songs is great, it's OK not to think every product he's shilling is great. And most of all, it's OK for someone to say they don't think those things are always great. Really, it is.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
"Disturbing" yet also a very refreshing. I was a complete cockeyed optimist in my younger days. I find myself getting more cynical and negative the older I get, and remember watching my Mom do the same thing as she aged. I am trying desperately not to convey that on my kids. I'm not saying we have to agree, I never want anyone to be the same, act the same or have the same opinion; I like the world mixed up. But I also really appreciate any positive attitude thrown my way. Anyone remember the book, "I'm OK, You're OK"?
I remember it but I didn't read it. I think the one I read was called something like "I'm OK, Everyone Else Is An A-hole."
Gotta agree with Larry that what makes the world an interesting place is that we are all not the same....at the sametime...Opinons are like assholes...everybody's got 1..... (or in my case 2 or 3... ) in my case....I'm still having fun...... have I heard that setlist before???? Probably...... Do I get up to go take a leak or get another beer when I hear SYKBH songs? Oh hell yes I do....Bottomline for me is; Did I leave the show with a smile on my face and a cool memory or 2??? when I answer that with a No, that's probably time for me to move on......in the meantime, I'm still havin' fun.....then again, I have can have fun with a stick and a rock......

Please pass the bug juice, make mine the orange stuff!!!!
Dutch is a sage.

More like a creosote....kinda knarly and stinky......

Tequila Revenge · Post by **Tequila Revenge** » August 7, 2008 8:54 pm

I don't own a Sage... too preppy for me

I think it's refered to Stage 9?

Got some wonderful memories. Had some AMAZING times. And I think I've grown into a way of life I enjoy living. I owe Jimmy a big thank you for all the companionship his music has brought me driving about 55,000 miles a year.

And I also think you let family, especially the BN family, go through some hard times, knowing they'll pass. As crazy as this world is each and everyday, we all need a place to anchor and chill..... safe harbors for the PH soul.

time for another rum drink

Finnsaremorefun · Post by **Finnsaremorefun** » August 7, 2008 10:34 pm

This turned into group therapy

I would've never known...

Regardless of this n' that, or any differing opinion, I think all of us being a lil' bit kinder to each other at least once a day is enough to

Life's too short.

I appreciate the differences, but we just have to be careful not too take to much pride in 'em.

G'night 'all - enjoyed your company today.

ChumWithA BottleOfRum · August 7, 2008 11:29 pm

Y-NO-9-O wrote:And again I ask this type of question:
Why are you posting in a thread that was clearly put here to give some of the people who post here some place to say it's still OK to like Jimmy? There are so many negative threads to contribute to, I am curious why you need to try to sell it here, too? Trust me, I whole-heartedly understand each of your viewpoints. I just choose not to have an entertainer's every step govern his lasting achievements or my liking/disliking the songs. I love the old stuff, and yet, I love the now.

Completely agree, this started out as one of the few positive posts that have gone up lately. I have a great idea, since this is a Jimmy FANSITE, anybody who wants to complain about what he does, where he goes, how he spends his money, should start up their very own website where there rants and bickers could be kept away from the positive vibe MOST of us have going on here!! Now wouldn't that be nice

Randy1278 · Post by **Randy1278** » August 8, 2008 12:00 am

I have been posting a bit here and a bit there lately, more than usual, and I really don't see what is wrong with having an opinion that is different than everyone else. I am not the type of fan that thinks that everything JB does is great. I post what I post because I am a true fan and would like to see something different or hear something different than the same show I have heard / seen for the last three years. Why is that so wrong? Why is it wrong for me to think that JB should change it up a bit and since he is in the twilight of his career, cater to those fans that have been with him longer than the people just there for the party? I think that as fans, we have a right to request, ask, b****, complain about what we are getting for our money.

"Is this Russia? This isn't Russia. Is this Russia?" - Ty Webb

Dutch Harbor PH · Post by **Dutch Harbor PH** » August 8, 2008 2:23 am

Tequila Revenge wrote:I don't own a Sage... too preppy for me

I think it's refered to Stage 9?

Got some wonderful memories. Had some AMAZING times. And I think I've grown into a way of life I enjoy living. I owe Jimmy a big thank you for all the companionship his music has brought me driving about 55,000 miles a year.

And I also think you let family, especially the BN family, go through some hard times, knowing they'll pass. As crazy as this world is each and everyday, we all need a place to anchor and chill..... safe harbors for the PH soul.

time for another rum drink

Hee Hee.....no sage fer me either.....I make my own......
You 'n me both brotha!!

Whether here on BN, On-line competeing with you all for tickets, schemeing, planning, longing for the next show Or sitting in camp at River mile 188 listening to Jimmy......I am happy......sometimes it just a little hint of a smile at the corners of my mouth...other times it doesn't show on the outside.....other times it's a big 'ole sh*t eatin' grin that I couldn't hide if I tried......but it is the experiences, the relationships with people I've never met (even the ones I don't nessasarily agree with), the memories, the anticipation of new memories and somewhere in that mix the music, that brings me back to my happy place and you know what........the world is just a bit better for me.....and I'm OK with that........Ohhhhhhhh!!!!! RED bug juice!!!!!! I Love RED bug juice!!!!!!!

pcbfan · Post by **pcbfan** » August 8, 2008 8:28 am

Randy1278 wrote:I have been posting a bit here and a bit there lately, more than usual, and I really don't see what is wrong with having an opinion that is different than everyone else. I am not the type of fan that thinks that everything JB does is great. I post what I post because I am a true fan and would like to see something different or hear something different than the same show I have heard / seen for the last three years. Why is that so wrong? Why is it wrong for me to think that JB should change it up a bit and since he is in the twilight of his career, cater to those fans that have been with him longer than the people just there for the party? I think that as fans, we have a right to request, ask, b****, complain about what we are getting for our money.

"Is this Russia? This isn't Russia. Is this Russia?" - Ty Webb

We get it!!!

Randy1278 · Post by **Randy1278** » August 8, 2008 9:51 am

I am not trying to be a trouble maker here, but when ever someone or myself talks about what he should change or what ever, there is so much backlash about turning in our user names and if we don't like it, stay home and listen to the old stuff, blah, blah, blah.....

If everyone else likes hearing the big 8 so much, why don't you people stay at home and play the yellow CD and the covers over and over again? I am suprised that no one has mentioned this before. And if they have, I am sorry I missed it and posted the same idea again.

C-Dawg · Post by **C-Dawg** » August 8, 2008 9:53 am

Randy1278 wrote:I have been posting a bit here and a bit there lately, more than usual, and I really don't see what is wrong with having an opinion that is different than everyone else. I am not the type of fan that thinks that everything JB does is great. I post what I post because I am a true fan and would like to see something different or hear something different than the same show I have heard / seen for the last three years. Why is that so wrong? Why is it wrong for me to think that JB should change it up a bit and since he is in the twilight of his career, cater to those fans that have been with him longer than the people just there for the party? I think that as fans, we have a right to request, ask, b****, complain about what we are getting for our money.

"Is this Russia? This isn't Russia. Is this Russia?" - Ty Webb

Feel free to speak your mind....but try to keep to subject.
Not every thread needs a post about how shortchanged you feel....but now that you brought it up....No, just because you own more albums or have been a fan longer does not mean JB has to cater to you. This is a Jimmy Buffett concert, and everyone who buys a ticket has just as much right to hear what they want as you do and it's Jimmy who gets to decide what he plays.
You hate CIP? Personally I like it as it reminds me of my 7 year old neice who I turned into a Parrothead back when she was still in diapers. CIP is her favorite song. Last year she got to hear it live over my cellphone while I was at the show. Between the pics I sent during the show and her listening to CIP and Everyone's on the Phone over my phone, my brother said it was better than any gift I could have bought her. If you and many other had their way, you would have denied my neice that experience, something she will probably cherish for life or til she's old enough for me to take her to her first show. JB is for everyone....not just the people who started listening back in the 70's...and everyone has their favorite songs. Would I like to hear ASPOL, The Wino & I Know or some other rarely played classic...sure, but I'll happily take BEG, CIP or whatever he wants to play....and have a great time.

Damb, I hate getting negative, but lately every thread is full of this BS. No, this isn't Russia, but we're not your therapist either. If you got issues, make an appointment and go see someone, 'cause I've heard enough.

parrothead_nj · Post by **parrothead_nj** » August 8, 2008 9:55 am

Perspective for me...
My wife and I were at the Jack Johnson concert last night in Camden, and it made me realize how much we enjoy the Buffett shows (tailgating and concert). For everything that annoys people inside the concert (cell phones, chatting during songs, rudeness, people passed out, etc...), it was at least 20x worse on the lawn at the show last night. I feel like I should have been a chaperone on the lawn, instead of a paying customer. I have never been close to getting into a fight in my 35+ Buffett Shows. I almost got drawn into 2 last night.

That being said, my Brown Eyed Girl, thanks her Southern Cross, that we still have these Glory Days to celebrate as we get On The Road Again for Another Saturday Night at GreatWoods in September.

Cheers,
Kevin

C-Dawg · Post by **C-Dawg** » August 8, 2008 9:58 am

parrothead_nj wrote: That being said, my Brown Eyed Girl, thanks her Southern Cross, that we still have these Glory Days to celebrate as we get On The Road Again for Another Saturday Night at GreatWoods in September.

Cheers,
Kevin

Hope to see you at the show or at the tailgate before

parrothead_nj · Post by **parrothead_nj** » August 8, 2008 10:02 am

C-Dawg wrote: Hope to see you at the show or at the tailgate before

Just finalized the arrangements last night. Staying at the Courtyard, and setting up the tailgate around 10am for some Breakfast. We'll be out in the Courtyard lot Friday night, feel free to stop on by.