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Russian Fighters shot down.
Posted: August 8, 2008 9:22 am
by pair8head
TSKHINVALI, Georgia - Georgian troops launched a major military offensive Friday to regain control over the breakaway province of South Ossetia, prompting a furious response from Russia — which vowed retaliation and sent a column of tanks into the region.
The rest of the article.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_ ... th_ossetia
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:13 pm
by TropicalTroubador
"The Eastern world, it is exploding
Violence flaring, bullets loading"
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:25 pm
by Skibo
That area has been unstable ever since the wall fell.
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:27 pm
by The Lost Manatee
Resurgent Russian Imperialism at its finest. The Russians will justify this action saying that they are going to aid/protect ethnic Russian from the evils of a multi-cultural republic. It reminds me of what Germany did when it invaded the Sudetenland before WWII.
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:31 pm
by SharkOnLand
I think Russia scares me more today than they did in the 80's. What's-his-name (the guy that was President or whatever and is still running the country) seems like a loose cannon to me.
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:55 pm
by Skibo
Oh boy, I just spoke with a co-worker from the from that region. He is very concerned that this isn't going to end well. Based on what he told me I think I agree with him.
Posted: August 8, 2008 1:26 pm
by RinglingRingling
Skibo wrote:Oh boy, I just spoke with a co-worker from the from that region. He is very concerned that this isn't going to end well. Based on what he told me I think I agree with him.
come on.. Russian intervention in Chechnia has turned out well...
Posted: August 8, 2008 1:36 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
SharkOnLand wrote:I think Russia scares me more today than they did in the 80's. What's-his-name (the guy that was President or whatever and is still running the country) seems like a loose cannon to me.
Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, born 14 September 1965: Medvedev was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government on November 14, 2005. Formerly Vladimir Putin's chief of staff, he was also the Chairman of Gazprom's board of directors, a post he had held, for the second time, since 2000. On December 10, 2007, he was informally endorsed as a candidate for the forthcoming presidential elections by the largest Russian political party, United Russia, and officially endorsed on December 17, 2007. Medvedev's candidacy was supported by former President Vladimir Putin and pro-presidential parties. A technocrat and political appointee, Medvedev had never held elective office before 2008.
Posted: August 8, 2008 1:40 pm
by RinglingRingling
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:I think Russia scares me more today than they did in the 80's. What's-his-name (the guy that was President or whatever and is still running the country) seems like a loose cannon to me.
Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, born 14 September 1965: Medvedev was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government on November 14, 2005. Formerly Vladimir Putin's chief of staff, he was also the Chairman of Gazprom's board of directors, a post he had held, for the second time, since 2000. On December 10, 2007, he was informally endorsed as a candidate for the forthcoming presidential elections by the largest Russian political party, United Russia, and officially endorsed on December 17, 2007. Medvedev's candidacy was supported by former President Vladimir Putin and pro-presidential parties. A technocrat and political appointee, Medvedev had never held elective office before 2008.
Medvedev is not the president in anything other than name. Like Shrub, he's a nice stalking horse and puppet for those behind the scenes
Posted: August 8, 2008 1:47 pm
by SharkOnLand
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:I think Russia scares me more today than they did in the 80's. What's-his-name (the guy that was President or whatever and is still running the country) seems like a loose cannon to me.
Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, born 14 September 1965: Medvedev was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government on November 14, 2005. Formerly Vladimir Putin's chief of staff, he was also the Chairman of Gazprom's board of directors, a post he had held, for the second time, since 2000. On December 10, 2007, he was informally endorsed as a candidate for the forthcoming presidential elections by the largest Russian political party, United Russia, and officially endorsed on December 17, 2007. Medvedev's candidacy was supported by former President Vladimir Putin and pro-presidential parties. A technocrat and political appointee, Medvedev had never held elective office before 2008.
I didn't feel like looking it up.

Thanks.
It's Putin that scares me. Medvedev seems like a figurehead, not really in charge, but answering to Putin...
Posted: August 8, 2008 1:48 pm
by RinglingRingling
SharkOnLand wrote:SchoolGirlHeart wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:I think Russia scares me more today than they did in the 80's. What's-his-name (the guy that was President or whatever and is still running the country) seems like a loose cannon to me.
Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, born 14 September 1965: Medvedev was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government on November 14, 2005. Formerly Vladimir Putin's chief of staff, he was also the Chairman of Gazprom's board of directors, a post he had held, for the second time, since 2000. On December 10, 2007, he was informally endorsed as a candidate for the forthcoming presidential elections by the largest Russian political party, United Russia, and officially endorsed on December 17, 2007. Medvedev's candidacy was supported by former President Vladimir Putin and pro-presidential parties. A technocrat and political appointee, Medvedev had never held elective office before 2008.
I didn't feel like looking it up.

Thanks.
It's Putin that scares me. Medvedev seems like a figurehead, not really in charge,
but answering to Putin...
exactly
Posted: August 8, 2008 1:56 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
RinglingRingling wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:SchoolGirlHeart wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:I think Russia scares me more today than they did in the 80's. What's-his-name (the guy that was President or whatever and is still running the country) seems like a loose cannon to me.
Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, born 14 September 1965: Medvedev was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government on November 14, 2005. Formerly Vladimir Putin's chief of staff, he was also the Chairman of Gazprom's board of directors, a post he had held, for the second time, since 2000. On December 10, 2007, he was informally endorsed as a candidate for the forthcoming presidential elections by the largest Russian political party, United Russia, and officially endorsed on December 17, 2007. Medvedev's candidacy was supported by former President Vladimir Putin and pro-presidential parties. A technocrat and political appointee, Medvedev had never held elective office before 2008.
I didn't feel like looking it up.

Thanks.
It's Putin that scares me. Medvedev seems like a figurehead, not really in charge,
but answering to Putin...
exactly
Yyyyep.... Imagine having a staffer from an administration get elected.... Yikes.....
Posted: August 8, 2008 2:26 pm
by Frank4
Putin is in China for the opening cermonies. Kind of convient....he's a snake if there ever was one. I believe he used to run the KGB before he became president...
Posted: August 8, 2008 2:37 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
Frank4 wrote:Putin is in China for the opening cermonies. Kind of convient....he's a snake if there ever was one. I believe he used to run the KGB before he became president...
He worked for the KGB, but was not the head of it.
He's currently the Prime Minister of Russia.
Posted: August 8, 2008 4:43 pm
by Hooray Beer!
As long as they stay in South Ossetia it's not a big deal
Now if they move into Georgia proper, then be conerned
Posted: August 8, 2008 4:53 pm
by Frank4
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Frank4 wrote:Putin is in China for the opening cermonies. Kind of convient....he's a snake if there ever was one. I believe he used to run the KGB before he became president...
He worked for the KGB, but was not the head of it.
He's currently the Prime Minister of Russia.
My bad, oops
Posted: August 8, 2008 4:57 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
Frank4 wrote:SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Frank4 wrote:Putin is in China for the opening cermonies. Kind of convient....he's a snake if there ever was one. I believe he used to run the KGB before he became president...
He worked for the KGB, but was not the head of it.
He's currently the Prime Minister of Russia.
My bad, oops
No worries!

Posted: August 8, 2008 6:19 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
Hooray Beer! wrote:As long as they stay in South Ossetia it's not a big deal
Now if they move into Georgia proper, then be conerned
You were saying...?
Bombs rocked Tbilisi early Saturday morning as the fight between Georgia and Russia over a breakaway region intensified and moved into the Georgian capital.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08 ... index.html
Posted: August 8, 2008 6:27 pm
by Frank4
Well, so much for the Olympic Truce.....
Posted: August 8, 2008 7:00 pm
by RinglingRingling
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:SchoolGirlHeart wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:I think Russia scares me more today than they did in the 80's. What's-his-name (the guy that was President or whatever and is still running the country) seems like a loose cannon to me.
Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, born 14 September 1965: Medvedev was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian government on November 14, 2005. Formerly Vladimir Putin's chief of staff, he was also the Chairman of Gazprom's board of directors, a post he had held, for the second time, since 2000. On December 10, 2007, he was informally endorsed as a candidate for the forthcoming presidential elections by the largest Russian political party, United Russia, and officially endorsed on December 17, 2007. Medvedev's candidacy was supported by former President Vladimir Putin and pro-presidential parties. A technocrat and political appointee, Medvedev had never held elective office before 2008.
I didn't feel like looking it up.

Thanks.
It's Putin that scares me. Medvedev seems like a figurehead, not really in charge,
but answering to Putin...
exactly
Yyyyep.... Imagine having a staffer from an administration get elected.... Yikes.....
if the stories I have heard about the last Russian election are true, he wasn't so much elected as just annointed and installed with the full weight of the
aparachiks behind Putin's decision