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Posted: August 18, 2008 9:14 pm
by SMLCHNG
Lightning Bolt wrote:
SMLCHNG wrote:
alphabits wrote:Thanks Brad! As always, your insight and perspective are spot on.
I couldn't agree more.
You're both welcome :)
...unless, of course, you were referring to the other Brad here :roll: :wink: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :P

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:15 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:...unless, of course, you were referring to the other Brad here :roll: :wink: :lol:
Brad, your insight and perspective are spot on. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:16 pm
by chippewa
Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:...unless, of course, you were referring to the other Brad here :roll: :wink: :lol:
Brad, your insight and perspective are spot on. :lol:
:lol:



Brads, some of your posts make me think, some make me laugh. And that's all I ask out of BN. Keep on keepin' on. :D

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:26 pm
by alphabits
chippewa wrote:
Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:...unless, of course, you were referring to the other Brad here :roll: :wink: :lol:
Brad, your insight and perspective are spot on. :lol:
:lol:



Brads, some of your posts make me think, some make me laugh. And that's all I ask out of BN. Keep on keepin' on. :D
What about tour dates?

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:27 pm
by Catch&Release
UAHparrothead wrote:I don't know if it crosses the church and state line, but I really don't think it honors God in anyway especially the way Americans use the money it's printed on. People freak out when someone threatens to take "In God We Trust" off the currency or "under God" from the Pledge. I think, what is your faith based on, a phrase on a dollar bill, a phrase in a pledge to the flag. If your looking for God in money or in the American flag your looking in the wrong place. If they were to take any mention of God off any US currency or building or anything, it would not phase me at all. I don't think anyone has come to Christ by staring at a dollar bill or a quarter, although I know too many Christians who spend too much time starting at it. The Religious Right have created an Americanized Jesus and Christianity that really has become an idol that is worshiped. If your faith is so weak that it is threatened by someone saying "Happy Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas" then you've got some major problems and it ain't the "liberals" taking over the country.
[smilie=gt-happyup.gif] Very well said. :D

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:32 pm
by ragtopW
TropicalTroubador wrote:Change it to, "In God we trust; everyone else needs cash."
GPHMTA!!!!

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:32 pm
by chippewa
alphabits wrote:
chippewa wrote:
Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:...unless, of course, you were referring to the other Brad here :roll: :wink: :lol:
Brad, your insight and perspective are spot on. :lol:
:lol:



Brads, some of your posts make me think, some make me laugh. And that's all I ask out of BN. Keep on keepin' on. :D
What about tour dates?
Well, yeah, that too. And bbq recipes.

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:39 pm
by jayparrot46
no no no

Posted: August 18, 2008 9:50 pm
by wheatsailor
chippewa wrote:
alphabits wrote:
chippewa wrote:
Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:...unless, of course, you were referring to the other Brad here :roll: :wink: :lol:
Brad, your insight and perspective are spot on. :lol:
:lol:



Brads, some of your posts make me think, some make me laugh. And that's all I ask out of BN. Keep on keepin' on. :D
What about tour dates?
Well, yeah, that too. And bbq recipes.
Don't forget the most important Drink Recipes!!

On a more serious note.....

Brad, I agree

Posted: August 18, 2008 11:18 pm
by bravedave
alphabits wrote:
chippewa wrote:
Elrod wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:...unless, of course, you were referring to the other Brad here :roll: :wink: :lol:
Brad, your insight and perspective are spot on. :lol:
:lol:



Brads, some of your posts make me think, some make me laugh. And that's all I ask out of BN. Keep on keepin' on. :D
What about tour dates?
I'll be your Tour Date if you'll be mine [smilie=battingeyes.gif]
(I'm serious -- you got tickets?)

Posted: August 19, 2008 1:49 am
by Wino you know
Leave it the heck alone.

Especially if the term "GOD" offends liberals.

Posted: August 19, 2008 2:22 am
by popcornjack
UAHparrothead wrote:I don't know if it crosses the church and state line, but I really don't think it honors God in anyway especially the way Americans use the money it's printed on. People freak out when someone threatens to take "In God We Trust" off the currency or "under God" from the Pledge. I think, what is your faith based on, a phrase on a dollar bill, a phrase in a pledge to the flag. If your looking for God in money or in the American flag your looking in the wrong place. If they were to take any mention of God off any US currency or building or anything, it would not phase me at all. I don't think anyone has come to Christ by staring at a dollar bill or a quarter, although I know too many Christians who spend too much time starting at it. The Religious Right have created an Americanized Jesus and Christianity that really has become an idol that is worshiped. If your faith is so weak that it is threatened by someone saying "Happy Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas" then you've got some major problems and it ain't the "liberals" taking over the country.
Brad, I mean this in the nicest way possible. Do not tell my Mother and Brother (both Methodist ministers) that I'd love to hear one of your sermons. Rarely do they get me to sit through theirs. (Granted, I've been listening to them a lot longer, but still....)

and the black/white of me says "If there is separation of church and state, then let's have it" and pull the motto off. Ironically, if people can't find it so simply and comfortably, they might search a little harder for it.

Posted: August 19, 2008 8:27 am
by flyboy55
UAHparrothead wrote:I don't know if it crosses the church and state line, but I really don't think it honors God in anyway especially the way Americans use the money it's printed on. People freak out when someone threatens to take "In God We Trust" off the currency or "under God" from the Pledge. I think, what is your faith based on, a phrase on a dollar bill, a phrase in a pledge to the flag. If your looking for God in money or in the American flag your looking in the wrong place. If they were to take any mention of God off any US currency or building or anything, it would not phase me at all. I don't think anyone has come to Christ by staring at a dollar bill or a quarter, although I know too many Christians who spend too much time starting at it. The Religious Right have created an Americanized Jesus and Christianity that really has become an idol that is worshiped. If your faith is so weak that it is threatened by someone saying "Happy Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas" then you've got some major problems and it ain't the "liberals" taking over the country.
Well said.

Another interesting perspective on the way Americans relate to their particular brand of Christianity by Stephen Prothero, chair of the religion department at Boston University . . .
. . . Approximately 75 percent of adults, according to polls cited by Prothero, mistakenly believe the Bible teaches that "God helps those who help themselves." More than 10 percent think that Noah's wife was Joan of Arc. Only half can name even one of the four Gospels, and -- a finding that will surprise many -- evangelical Christians are only slightly more knowledgeable than their non-evangelical counterparts.

. . .

The book's main concern, though, is ignorance about the role of religion in American history. Prothero dates the beginning of the long decline in our religious literacy to the Second Great Awakening of the early 1800s. The fervor of America's periodic cycles of revivalism, rooted in a personal relationship with God rather than in theology handed down by learned clergy, has always had a strong anti-intellectual as well as spiritual component.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02073.html

With regard to the poll question, I don't think the phrase "In God We Trust" belongs on our currency. But I'm not sure the effort to have it removed is worth the trouble (BIG trouble :lol: - as we all know from current events, folks who like the trappings of religiosity and are convinced that only THEY happen to be talking to God, but who, in their ignorance and fervor, miss the important message, can cause a lot of trouble for the rest of us here in the world).

Posted: August 19, 2008 8:43 am
by Skibo
I don't agree with the anti-religion crowd that the constitution bans even the mention of God or a religious holiday in any government area. God is mentioned many times in these same documents. The founders were against state sponsored religion - like the Church of England or even the Catholic church and the countries that endorsed it during the inquisition era. Because I use a dollar bill does it mean that I believe in a God? Not really. That phrase doesn't really effect my belief that there is a scientific explanation for all events. There are many principles of religion that are very good and I am glad our country is a religious society. I do wonder sometimes if courthouses listed 10 good ideas instead of 10 commandments, would the anti-religion crowd be protesting and fighting to remove the list?

Besides, are anyone's rights really being violated because they don't agree with a phrase on the currency of our country? Really, if this is really a priority issue in our country, then we are a lot better off than people realize.

Posted: August 19, 2008 9:14 am
by alphabits
I just talked to God. He says he doesn't really care what your money says as long as you put it in the offering plate on Sunday.

Posted: August 19, 2008 11:39 am
by SharkOnLand
Honestly, who uses cash anymore? Or takes the time to read it? They could change it to "In Goose We Trust" and it would take the average American 12 years before they noticed the change.

Posted: August 19, 2008 11:42 am
by chippewa
SharkOnLand wrote:Honestly, who uses cash anymore? Or takes the time to read it? They could change it to "In Goose We Trust" and it would take the average American 12 years before they noticed the change.
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Posted: August 19, 2008 11:50 am
by LIBuffettFan
I for the life of me can't figure out why a phrase that has appeared on US currency since 1864 all of a sudden offends every one and needs to be removed. What has changed? I honestly think the US Government (read unproductive and red tape) has alot more pressing issues on their plate then what appears on the US currency. Thats just my opinion.

Posted: August 19, 2008 12:01 pm
by pema
SharkOnLand wrote:Honestly, who uses cash anymore? Or takes the time to read it? They could change it to "In Goose We Trust" and it would take the average American 12 years before they noticed the change.
unless they were a BNer. someone here would point it out in a thread. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Should "In God We Trust" be removed from US cu

Posted: August 19, 2008 12:13 pm
by pema
Dezdmona wrote:Should the motto "In God We Trust" be removed from U.S. currency?

Live Poll
in a perfect world - YES!!!

but then again, there would be a lot involved in changing it. prolly not work getting bent out of shape over. [smilie=noeyedear-shrugging.gif]

but that sorta thing is something that should prolly be avoided in the future. and maybe next time they are going to add new security features or something, so they're gonna be changing it anyway…..